"We've got four strikers, we're trying to find the right..."

[The Cube]

...combinations" - quote from McDermott after Saturday's game (which is too long for the subject line).

So let's look at the combinations available and see what the options are. Realisticaly, it's either two up-front or one, so we have these ten combinations:

Church / Hunt
Le Fondre / Manset
Church / Le Fondre
Hunt / Manset
Church / Manset
Hunt / Le Fondre
Church
Hunt
Le Fondre
Manset

But some of these obviously won't work in practice and so can be immediately eliminated. That leaves us with the following six options:

Le Fondre / Manset
Hunt / Manset
Hunt / Le Fondre
Hunt
Le Fondre
Manset

Well, I've given Brian a helping hand, and the rest is where the difficult job of being a football manager comes in.

[PistolPete]

Ridiculous OP, Church is worth considering, I for one prefer him to Manset.

I still have a funny feeling that Hal R-Kanu could be a very good striker; that gives us even more options.

If truth be told, I think we've got a load of average strikers and no great ones. I'd like to see a new one brought in!

In the meantime:

--------------Le Fondre--------------
HRK-----------Church-----------Kebe
---------Legs-----------Karacan------
Harte---Gorkss----Pearce---Cummings

If Le Fondre isn't working, bring on Manset.
If Church isn't working, bring on Jobi
If Kebe isn't working bring on Hunt
If Robson Kanu isn't working, bring on Jobi

[Snowball]

I think both Hunt and ALF are under-rated by stats.

They do a lot of good work off the ball

BUT

Manset is "producing" at nearly four times the rate of Church

ALF is producing at almost exactly three times Church's rate

Hunt at two-and-a-half Church

HRK better than twice Church's rate




Bold Figure is Minutes per Major Contribution (Goal or Assist)


0,515 Minutes 04 Major Contributions 129 3 Goals 1 Assists MANSET

1,048 Minutes 06 Major Contributions 174 4 Goals 2 Assists ALF (RFC)

0,954 Minutes 05 Major Contributions 191 3 Goals 2 Assists HUNT

0,881 Minutes 04 Major Contributions 220 2 Goals 2 Assists HRK

0,914 Minutes 02 Major Contributions 457 2 Goals 0 Assists CHURCH

[Snowball]

That means Church is managing a major attacking contribution once every 5 games.

[Royalee]

Le Fondre and Hunt, end of.

Send Church to the Blue Square.

[FC Bracknell Royal]

Church is easily better than Manset. Manset is so raw and unready. It would be better to be sent out on loan at league 1 to get some real experience starting alot of games. Not that i'd start Church. Disappointed with how Church looked so promising with his effort in the game he first started and then scored, but effort seems to have diminshed slightly...
Best option is Hunt & Le Fondre, Church to come off the bench.

HRK is clearly a winger and looks 10x the player up front when he plays on the wing.

[loyalroyal4life]

Le Fondre and Hunt, end of.

Send Church to the Blue Square.

Agree, can't see why or how anyone would want to see past giving this combo a real run in the team!

[who are ya?]

HRK didn't look quite so impressive in an RFC tracksuit at a Bracknell BP garage on Saturday night. Although the shiney bLOLack Range Rover was pretty skillz

[Ian Royal]

Le Fondre & Hunt have the best individual contributions. We just don't score much with Church on the pitch. He doesn't score much and he doesn't provide goals. Manset is the ideal super sub. HRK is a decent cover for striker and winger.

We've tried Church and Le Fondre for a good period. It didn't work. Hunt & Le Fondre haven't had a great deal of pitch time together, but seem to be doing ok. So that's the one to try at the moment IMO.

[pea]

As much as I like Church, ALF and Hunt are quite clearly our best strikers

[Snowball]

Church is easily better than Manset.

Clearly

0,515 Minutes 04 Major Contributions 129 Minutes per major contribution 3 Goals 1 Assists MANSET

0,914 Minutes 02 Major Contributions 457 Minutes per major contribution 2 Goals 0 Assists CHURCH

[Ian Royal]

Manset struggles to last a match due to his fitness, as shown by being subbed almost every time he's started. He's lasted 90 minutes on one in eight occasions. He has also yet to score a goal when starting.

Which I'd say automatically relegates him to being better used from the bench.

[Snowball]

Maybe so.

But I was discussing how a player who manages just one attacking major contribution
every 5.1 games could be "EASILY BETTER" than one who manages the same feat
in better than a game and a half.



0,515 Minutes 04 Major Contributions 129 Minutes per major contribution 3 Goals 1 Assists MANSET

0,914 Minutes 02 Major Contributions 457 Minutes per major contribution 2 Goals 0 Assists CHURCH

[rfc2001]

It's not the strikers its the service. (Apart from church he is f*cking w*nk)

[rfc2001]

I would have ALF and Hunt

However I would only start Hunt as manset lasts about 20mins and church is sh*te

We need a new striker who has pace!! Create the room for ALF

[RobRoyal]

But some of these obviously won't work in practice and so can be immediately eliminated.

Nice work Cube.

[RoyalJames101]

Le Fondre & Hunt have the best individual contributions. We just don't score much with Church on the pitch. He doesn't score much and he doesn't provide goals. Manset is the ideal super sub. HRK is a decent cover for striker and winger.

We've tried Church and Le Fondre for a good period. It didn't work. Hunt & Le Fondre haven't had a great deal of pitch time together, but seem to be doing ok. So that's the one to try at the moment IMO.

Church & Le Fondre's games they started together

Doncaster (H) - 2-0 W
Coventry (A) - 1-1 D
Bristol City (A) - 3-2 W
Boro (H) - 0-0 D
Burnley (A) - 1-1 D
Derby (H) - 2-2 D
Southampton (H) - 1-1 D
Palace (A) - 0-0 D
Birmingham (H) - 1-0 W

How has that not work?

[muddyfeet]

Pearce up front as a lone striker

[Hoop Blah]

Maybe so.

But I was discussing how a player who manages just one attacking major contribution
every 5.1 games could be "EASILY BETTER" than one who manages the same feat
in better than a game and a half.



0,515 Minutes 04 Major Contributions 129 Minutes per major contribution 3 Goals 1 Assists MANSET

0,914 Minutes 02 Major Contributions 457 Minutes per major contribution 2 Goals 0 Assists CHURCH

As you said earlier in the thread, stats don't always give the whole picture.

Manset has, I should think, played a higher percentage of his minutes late in games when we're chasing goals for whatever reason (and certainly less first halfs!). As anyone who's seen us play this season will testify, and it's been discussed on here, until we're really chasing a game or goals we don't seem to have any clue as to how to score irrespective of who is in the team.

I'd also suggest that Mansets sample size is a little small to be used in direct comparison to Church (neither of whom I think are quite up to being a regular scorer at this level).

[melonhead]

ALF/NHunt

manset super sub

churchy to cover injuries