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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Bandini » 11 Dec 2011 14:39

andrew1957 It is clear for all to see that we have a big problem with goal keeping situation, but there is little the club can do about it.

Federici is having an excellent season and has done absolutely nothing to deserve being dropped.

McCarthy might have the ability to be an even better keeper but why would Brain take the risk of dropping the in form Federici just to appease a young player who "might" be a star of the future. It is no different to dropping Kebe and playing Obita - who "might" be a better player than Kebe in the long run.

I am sure that if a PL club comes in for Federici in January we would most likely sell, but it is unlikely to happen. There are no obvious vacancies in the PL. So either we have to sell McCarthy if the price is right and he is not willing to be patient, or he has to wait his turn. I hope he is patient as playing at Reading is probably the best bet for his long term career.

And what about Andersen. How frustrated must he feel? He "might" have even more potential than McCarthy and would probably walk into most Championship sides and yet is effectively our number 3.

Nice problem in some ways but difficult in others and I think we should get behind the club on this issue as Brian and RFC are in a bit of a no win situation.


Did Obita play in a long unbeaten streak last season and generally thrill observers with his talent and promise?

Rother: I'm more than happy to defer to Brian and Bibbo - they will get things right far more often than we would. Occasionally they might be wrong, however, particularly on tight decisions such as this.

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by West Stand Man » 11 Dec 2011 14:42

andrew1957 It is clear for all to see that we have a big problem with goal keeping situation, but there is little the club can do about it.

Federici is having an excellent season and has done absolutely nothing to deserve being dropped.

McCarthy might have the ability to be an even better keeper but why would Brain take the risk of dropping the in form Federici just to appease a young player who "might" be a star of the future. It is no different to dropping Kebe and playing Obita - who "might" be a better player than Kebe in the long run.

I am sure that if a PL club comes in for Federici in January we would most likely sell, but it is unlikely to happen. There are no obvious vacancies in the PL. So either we have to sell McCarthy if the price is right and he is not willing to be patient, or he has to wait his turn. I hope he is patient as playing at Reading is probably the best bet for his long term career.

And what about Andersen. How frustrated must he feel? He "might" have even more potential than McCarthy and would probably walk into most Championship sides and yet is effectively our number 3.

Nice problem in some ways but difficult in others and I think we should get behind the club on this issue as Brian and RFC are in a bit of a no win situation.


Wow, if having 3 top rate goalkeepers is a problem lets have some more of those. It may be a selection issue - but it is not right to call it a problem!

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 11 Dec 2011 15:20

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Wow, if having 3 top rate goalkeepers is a problem lets have some more of those. It may be a selection issue - but it is not right to call it a problem!


Funny for years managers have said one of the hardest part of the job was keeping the players that are not involved or playing happy.

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by West Stand Man » 11 Dec 2011 15:37

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Wow, if having 3 top rate goalkeepers is a problem lets have some more of those. It may be a selection issue - but it is not right to call it a problem!


Funny for years managers have said one of the hardest part of the job was keeping the players that are not involved or playing happy.


Which doesn't really make it a problem for the club - it is a management/leadership issue. A problem is when you haven't got a decent goalkeeper at all. Surely?

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Ferris » 12 Dec 2011 10:02

Extended his loan by another month


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Re: Alex McCarthy

by melonhead » 12 Dec 2011 10:48

but he won't be able to play against Reading on Saturday.


phew

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Simon's Church » 12 Dec 2011 10:53

Could end up sitting on the bench for a month if Lonergan plays well against us.

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by LeedsFan » 12 Dec 2011 11:29

As the username suggests i'm a Leeds fan, just thought you might be interested to hear a Leeds perspective on McCarthy. I was surprised to see you loan him to us but he's been absolutely fantastic and kept us in some games, especially against Burnley, with some great saves and just looks so assured, his only weakness that i've seen is that he's not the best kicker of the ball but not so bad that it causes problems and other than that he excells at everything. However despite being very impressive the generel consesus is that Lonergan at this moment is still better than him and I find it strange that we've extended his loan as Lonergan is fit to play against you at the weekend and although I'd love us to sign McCarthy permanantly it would be a waste of our very limited resources and we would find ourselves in the same position as you having two excellent keepers but there is no doubt in my mind McCarthy's potential far exceeds that of Lonergan's and Federici's and you have a potential England 'keeper at your club and from the comments McCarthy has made it's obvious he wants to play games. My advice to Reading would be to offload Federici for the long-term prospect otherwise you could lose him. Good luck for the rest of the season after Saturday.

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by melonhead » 12 Dec 2011 11:32

cheers for your input leeds type!

good to hear/see him do so well

believe me whe i say theres nothing more id rather happen than get shot of federici and install mcarthy as our number 1




and thanks for looking after him!


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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Archie's penalty » 12 Dec 2011 11:39

melonhead cheers for your input leeds type!

good to hear/see him do so well

believe me whe i say theres nothing more id rather happen than get shot of federici and install mcarthy as our number 1




and thanks for looking after him!


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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Archie's penalty » 12 Dec 2011 11:40

melonhead cheers for your input leeds type!

good to hear/see him do so well

believe me whe i say theres nothing more id rather happen than get shot of federici and install mcarthy as our number 1




and thanks for looking after him!


I agree. Get rid of Feds.

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by rhroyal » 12 Dec 2011 11:46

Is nobody looking at the Leeds issue here too? They've won 4 out of 5 games with our keeper and are sitting in 6th. Besides the whole Feds vs McCarthy debate, we shouldn't be helping play-off rivals climb the table.

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Cobi » 12 Dec 2011 11:49

LeedsFan My advice to Reading would be to offload Federici for the long-term prospect otherwise you could lose him. Good luck for the rest of the season after Saturday.


Couldn't agree more but it would be typical of Reading to flog McCarthy for peanuts in Jan or June/July and stick with Federici. I really hope not, but I'm expecting as much.


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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Snowball » 12 Dec 2011 11:51

rhroyal Is nobody looking at the Leeds issue here too? They've won 4 out of 5 games with our keeper and are sitting in 6th. Besides the whole Feds vs McCarthy debate, we shouldn't be helping play-off rivals climb the table.




They were 7th on GD, but joint with 5th and 6th on points. We were 14th.

They are now 6th. We have risen to 10th

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Cobi » 12 Dec 2011 11:54

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rhroyal Is nobody looking at the Leeds issue here too? They've won 4 out of 5 games with our keeper and are sitting in 6th. Besides the whole Feds vs McCarthy debate, we shouldn't be helping play-off rivals climb the table.




They were 7th on GD, but joint with 5th and 6th on points. We were 14th.

They are now 6th. We have risen to 10th


But we haven't risen to 10th because we loaned someone out, have we? :roll:

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by rhroyal » 12 Dec 2011 11:54

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LeedsFan My advice to Reading would be to offload Federici for the long-term prospect otherwise you could lose him. Good luck for the rest of the season after Saturday.


Couldn't agree more but it would be typical of Reading to flog McCarthy for peanuts in Jan or June/July and stick with Federici. I really hope not, but I'm expecting as much.

Would it be typical? Who have we flogged for "peanuts" recently? The closest example I can think of was Simon Cox. Poor comparison, as he truly was a million miles from the side at the time with us in the Premiership.

I do trust the judgement of the club as we have a good track record of getting a lot of money for players. We normally sell at the right time too ie. not flogging Long cheap when he was crap.

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Cobi » 12 Dec 2011 11:58

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LeedsFan My advice to Reading would be to offload Federici for the long-term prospect otherwise you could lose him. Good luck for the rest of the season after Saturday.


Couldn't agree more but it would be typical of Reading to flog McCarthy for peanuts in Jan or June/July and stick with Federici. I really hope not, but I'm expecting as much.

Would it be typical? Who have we flogged for "peanuts" recently? The closest example I can think of was Simon Cox. Poor comparison, as he truly was a million miles from the side at the time with us in the Premiership.

I do trust the judgement of the club as we have a good track record of getting a lot of money for players. We normally sell at the right time too ie. not flogging Long cheap when he was crap.


Typical of a selling club, which is what we are now.

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Svlad Cjelli » 12 Dec 2011 12:00

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Cobi Couldn't agree more but it would be typical of Reading to flog McCarthy for peanuts in Jan or June/July and stick with Federici. I really hope not, but I'm expecting as much.

Would it be typical? Who have we flogged for "peanuts" recently? The closest example I can think of was Simon Cox. Poor comparison, as he truly was a million miles from the side at the time with us in the Premiership.

I do trust the judgement of the club as we have a good track record of getting a lot of money for players. We normally sell at the right time too ie. not flogging Long cheap when he was crap.


Typical of a selling club, which is what we are now.


Ermm, when have we, or the vast majority of the 92, not been selling clubs? That's the way it is in football.

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by rhroyal » 12 Dec 2011 12:03

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Every club has to sell its best players aside from 5 or 6. Even Man Utd had to let Ronaldo go. The idea that a Championship side could have kept Long, Doyle, Hunt, Siggy etc. is naive and ridiculous. The only possible exception was the sale of Mills, and I don't see anybody crying over that piece of business.

We're an excellent selling club as we get the best deal. Everybody knows we'll drive a hard bargain. I laughed at MOTD2 when Warnock said dealing with Hammond is "Like getting blood from a stone."

The issue with McCarthy and Andersen for me is, they don't have enough experience/reputation to justify the sort of fee we usually hold out for. Federici possibly does. He will if he keeps his current form out for the rest of the season. And if that happens in the summer, McCarthy will have enough Championship experience to hit the ground running.

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Re: Alex McCarthy

by Cobi » 12 Dec 2011 12:21

rhroyal :roll: :roll: :roll:

Every club has to sell its best players aside from 5 or 6.


Appreciate that, however the Reading side that was carefully put together that won us promotion was not a side that had it's best players sold each summer. It was added to with one big signing each summer, usually around £800k and one or two clever additions for low cost. We only sold what wasn't good enough. Nowadays, or since relegation, it's a much different story.

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