The Gr8 Keeper Deb8

[Stuboo]

madstad to nadderud. You're talking out your blowhole. Hahnemann kicked it out maybe a couple of times a game on average. It was part of a calculated plan as Brendy says. His poor kicking was a total myth.

Hahnemann the better keeper. Feds has slightly better kicking and is slightly more agile, but Hahnemann's positioningwas far superior.

I think I agree that Hahnemann was the better keeper, but I am not sure he was better by the degree some people are saying. Not much in it for me. Feds is still improving and may turn out to be the better keeper in the future. Both good keepers. I wouldn't swap Feds for Rob Green or Jaaskelainen at the moment, for example.

[Ian Royal]

madstad to nadderud. You're talking out your blowhole. Hahnemann kicked it out maybe a couple of times a game on average. It was part of a calculated plan as Brendy says. His poor kicking was a total myth.

Hahnemann the better keeper. Feds has slightly better kicking and is slightly more agile, but Hahnemann's positioningwas far superior.

I think I agree that Hahnemann was the better keeper, but I am not sure he was better by the degree some people are saying. Not much in it for me. Feds is still improving and may turn out to be the better keeper in the future. Both good keepers. I wouldn't swap Feds for Rob Green or Jaaskelainen at the moment, for example.

It's HNA, most people don't do Player X was a bit better than Player Y. It's Player X was the bestest ever and Player Y isn't good enough to play in a pub team or lace Player X's boots.

It'd be the same even if Messi and Ronaldo played for us and people were trying to work out who was best.

[ManchesterRoyals]

oxf*rd it sign Hugo lloris debate over

[ManchesterRoyals]

oxf*rd it sign Hugo lloris debate over

Id rather sign Brad Friedel than have feds in goal

[Extended-Phenotype]

Quoting yourself for extra impact, I like it.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Quoting yourself for extra impact, I like it.

Good point.

[bracknell loyal royal!]

There's only two men in contention, who rocketed from mediocre/shit goalies to club legends in their own right:



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To be fair to them that goalkeeper kit could'nt have done them any favours, it's absolutely atrocious but so much so that i am a little fond of it, especially as i seem to remember we could barely put a pass together let alone a jigsaw.

[Stuboo]

madstad to nadderud. You're talking out your blowhole. Hahnemann kicked it out maybe a couple of times a game on average. It was part of a calculated plan as Brendy says. His poor kicking was a total myth.

Hahnemann the better keeper. Feds has slightly better kicking and is slightly more agile, but Hahnemann's positioningwas far superior.

I think I agree that Hahnemann was the better keeper, but I am not sure he was better by the degree some people are saying. Not much in it for me. Feds is still improving and may turn out to be the better keeper in the future. Both good keepers. I wouldn't swap Feds for Rob Green or Jaaskelainen at the moment, for example.

It's HNA, most people don't do Player X was a bit better than Player Y. It's Player X was the bestest ever and Player Y isn't good enough to play in a pub team or lace Player X's boots.

It'd be the same even if Messi and Ronaldo played for us and people were trying to work out who was best.

Aahahhaa. That seems to be very true.

[LightwaterRoyal]

Quoting yourself for extra impact, I like it.

Good point.

LOL

[Madstad to Nadderud]

Quoting yourself for extra impact, I like it.

Leave it out. that's The Siege's job!

[Madstad to Nadderud]

oxf*rd it sign Hugo lloris debate over

Id rather sign Brad Friedel than have feds in goal

+1 and good point

[BR2]

For those that feel Feds will be shattered (possibly irreparably) by being dropped what do they think of:-
Lambert replacing Given after two games
Fergie replacing De Gea after two games
Di Canio replacing his keeper after 20 minutes
Will these keepers now be seeking counselling or will they work extremely hard in training to get their places back?

[Alexander Litvinenko]

For those that feel Feds will be shattered (possibly irreparably) by being dropped what do they think of:-
Lambert replacing Given after two games
Fergie replacing De Gea after two games
Di Canio replacing his keeper after 20 minutes
Will these keepers now be seeking counselling or will they work extremely hard in training to get their places back?

I'd say that :

- Given & De Gea are older and more established than Federici, with smaller egos
- Di Canio is an utter cunt who is completely out of order - he's now saying that he'll not let the keeper back in the team until he apologises for his errors and arrogance.

[moonwalklikebas]

De Gea is older than Feds?!?!

Your football knowledge is outstanding!

[Alexander Litvinenko]

Two players. One is older and one is more established.

[moonwalklikebas]

Given is older and more established. Top 10 keepers since the premier league began.
De gea is unproven in this league to a certain extent and only 21
Feds is unproven at this level, but has been solid for us bar the beginning of this season

[Alexander Litvinenko]

But De Gea has played 76 top-level matches. Federici has played 2, plus a handful of internationals.

[Stuboo]

For those that feel Feds will be shattered (possibly irreparably) by being dropped what do they think of:-
Lambert replacing Given after two games
Fergie replacing De Gea after two games
Di Canio replacing his keeper after 20 minutes
Will these keepers now be seeking counselling or will they work extremely hard in training to get their places back?

I would say Given has been below his usual high standard last season into this season. A much longer period than Feds.

De Gea being blamed because he couldn't get to the cross, resulting in a goal, is possibly a bit harsh on him, seing as his own defender blocked his way. I'm wary to criticise Sir Alex, given what he's achieved, but time will tell if he made the right decision there. Incidentally, I believe De Gea was the best shot stopper in the Prem last season in terms of percentage of shots stopped.

Di Canio - I'm not sure you could use that as an example of good management. He had other ways of dealing with the keeper, after the game and out of public sight for example. The keeper probably won't forgive him for shaming him like that and will possibly no longer be any use to the team.

[BR2]

For those that feel Feds will be shattered (possibly irreparably) by being dropped what do they think of:-
Lambert replacing Given after two games
Fergie replacing De Gea after two games
Di Canio replacing his keeper after 20 minutes
Will these keepers now be seeking counselling or will they work extremely hard in training to get their places back?

I would say Given has been below his usual high standard last season into this season. A much longer period than Feds.

De Gea being blamed because he couldn't get to the cross, resulting in a goal, is possibly a bit harsh on him, seing as his own defender blocked his way. I'm wary to criticise Sir Alex, given what he's achieved, but time will tell if he made the right decision there.

Di Canio - I'm not sure you could use that as an example of good management. He had other ways of dealing with the keeper, after the game and out of public sight for example. The keeper probably won't forgive him for shaming him like that and will no longer be any use to the team.

Don't put words into my mouth,I said nothing about good management.
My point is that these 3 managers have acted quickly after goalkeeping errors and by the time of the next round of Premier League fixtures QPR and possibly Liverpool will have done the same.
Will Brian do likewise?

[Snowball]

Doesn't the large number of keeper-errors so far this season suggest it's the ball?

How many keepers have already come under scrutiny?