by Oilroyal » 30 Dec 2013 15:57
by howser » 30 Dec 2013 16:42
by The Prisoner » 30 Dec 2013 16:54
by Oilroyal » 30 Dec 2013 16:58
by Oilroyal » 30 Dec 2013 17:02
The Prisoner The team is in transition. Ownership all over the place. We have a load of injuries. We are in the top ten. We have potential. We have a manager with a proven track record. We have a manager who has only had one transfer window. We have a manager with a track record for producing intelligent teams who play the right way.
Despite all this, and with Adkins not even having had a full year the Football Manager brigade want a head on a stick.
I honestly despair of the instant gratification demanded by some of you mongs.
If anyone wants sacking it's you!
by @sonkimarsson » 30 Dec 2013 17:07
Oilroyal Hopefully the club will be where they want to be in a few years and BMcD will have added to his game and with his obvious man management skills I think I'll manage in the PL again and in time I can see him back with us. He's a decent bloke and I'm pleased for him, just a shame he went to bloody leeds!
by Oilroyal » 30 Dec 2013 17:09
@sonkimarssonOilroyal Hopefully the club will be where they want to be in a few years and BMcD will have added to his game and with his obvious man management skills I think I'll manage in the PL again and in time I can see him back with us. He's a decent bloke and I'm pleased for him, just a shame he went to bloody leeds!
Are you Brian?
by Pepe the Horseman » 30 Dec 2013 17:09
OilroyalThe Prisoner The team is in transition. Ownership all over the place. We have a load of injuries. We are in the top ten. We have potential. We have a manager with a proven track record. We have a manager who has only had one transfer window. We have a manager with a track record for producing intelligent teams who play the right way.
Despite all this, and with Adkins not even having had a full year the Football Manager brigade want a head on a stick.
I honestly despair of the instant gratification demanded by some of you mongs.
If anyone wants sacking it's you!
30 odd years of supporting this club. Also supplied youth team coach back in the elm park day, sponsored Shaka with a car, Dylon Kerr attended my wedding and I know SJM who asked me to be a patron of the club so I hardly think I'm looking for instant gratification
by Royal Lady » 30 Dec 2013 17:11
by facaldaqui » 30 Dec 2013 17:13
Oilroyal
30 odd years of supporting this club. Also supplied youth team coach back in the elm park day, sponsored Shaka with a car, Dylon Kerr attended my wedding and I know SJM who asked me to be a patron of the club so I hardly think I'm looking for instant gratification
by Oilroyal » 30 Dec 2013 17:18
facaldaquiOilroyal
30 odd years of supporting this club. Also supplied youth team coach back in the elm park day, sponsored Shaka with a car, Dylon Kerr attended my wedding and I know SJM who asked me to be a patron of the club so I hardly think I'm looking for instant gratification
But are you nursing a grudge that when the club went upmarket, they started hiring a better quality of motor?
by facaldaqui » 30 Dec 2013 17:21
by facaldaqui » 30 Dec 2013 17:24
OilroyalfacaldaquiOilroyal
30 odd years of supporting this club. Also supplied youth team coach back in the elm park day, sponsored Shaka with a car, Dylon Kerr attended my wedding and I know SJM who asked me to be a patron of the club so I hardly think I'm looking for instant gratification
But are you nursing a grudge that when the club went upmarket, they started hiring a better quality of motor?
No at all I'm happy for SJM and the possibility of new investment with this I can see him once again enjoying his stewardship of this great club. As for holding a grudge I stopped financial sponsorship a while back as I'm now in the oil industry and my company wouldn't benefit from the connection.
by ReadingRooney » 30 Dec 2013 17:25
facaldaqui I do not want Adkins out. It is like marrying a woman who seems a bit dodgy in the first few months--you do not just bin her for the blonde down the road before she has even had her hair done and bought a new outfit.
by RoyalBlue » 30 Dec 2013 17:26
OilroyalfacaldaquiOilroyal
30 odd years of supporting this club. Also supplied youth team coach back in the elm park day, sponsored Shaka with a car, Dylon Kerr attended my wedding and I know SJM who asked me to be a patron of the club so I hardly think I'm looking for instant gratification
But are you nursing a grudge that when the club went upmarket, they started hiring a better quality of motor?
No at all I'm happy for SJM and the possibility of new investment with this I can see him once again enjoying his stewardship of this great club. As for holding a grudge I stopped financial sponsorship a while back as I'm now in the oil industry and my company wouldn't benefit from the connection.
by RoyalBlue » 30 Dec 2013 17:27
by Oilroyal » 30 Dec 2013 17:38
facaldaqui I do not want Adkins out. It is like marrying a woman who seems a bit dodgy in the first few months--you do not just bin her for the blonde down the road before she has even had her hair done and bought a new outfit.
Anyway, this whole question is more complicated than it usually is, because of the ownership situation. For me, if Adkins went, I would put Dolan in charge till the end of the season--not to get us promoted but to settle us down and calm expectations. But that would be a Madejski-like appointment, and he no longer calls the shots. Did Anton even consult him about sacking McD? But I hardly think Anton could turn up out of the blue and sack Adkins, after giving him no (apparent) support for months---I mean in the way of attending matches, training, meetings, etc.,---and wanting to sell up pronto. This would be an utterly rubbish moment for a new manager to come in, with the ownership situation in such a shambles. In my opinion, under these circumstances, a new manager would not stand a chance, whoever he is.
by facaldaqui » 30 Dec 2013 17:50
RoyalBlue More seriously if, as some are suggesting, Adkins has lost the dressing room, then let's get rid of those players rather than the manager. Not many in the dressing room that we would really miss and/or couldn't be replaced.
by Oilroyal » 30 Dec 2013 18:02
facaldaquiRoyalBlue More seriously if, as some are suggesting, Adkins has lost the dressing room, then let's get rid of those players rather than the manager. Not many in the dressing room that we would really miss and/or couldn't be replaced.
I do not know if he has lost the dressing room. But if he has, it may not be through rebellion by the players, just by a vague loss of faith in his management. We have all been there with certain bosses. If this is the case, no scapegoat would be identifiable to sack.
I am a bit disturbed by Drenthe's omission from the trip to Boro for personal reasons. If these are to do with bereavement, or whatever, fair enough, but otherwise this smacks a bit of latterday Kebe, who appears not to have been willing to play for Adkins, though that has never been established.
by 3points » 30 Dec 2013 18:04
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