Will our keepers cost us promotion?

[Noggin the Nog]

Not sure comparing the goalkeeper of the 2nd worst defence in the Premiership (Bournemouth) playing away against the team with the most prolific attack (Man City) with the goalkeeper of the team with the tightest defence in the Championship has any value. And anyway we still love AF and I'd love to have him here.

[3points]

Loved the way he made a decent scrambling save and then let the ball through his legs. So Feds. And there were the usual "TV saves"

[Nameless]

Not sure comparing the goalkeeper of the 2nd worst defence in the Premiership (Bournemouth) playing away against the team with the most prolific attack (Man City) with the goalkeeper of the team with the tightest defence in the Championship has any value. And anyway we still love AF and I'd love to have him here.

First off it's tongue in cheek, but obviously letting goals in at your new post or through your legs is an error however you are playing for or against.

[Platypuss]

Federici truly woeful for the 2nd and 4th (twice).

[Woodcote Royal]

This thread needs to be bounced all the way to the end of the season with Federici fcuk-ups.

I note posters in the BFTG thread marking down Al Habsi because he had little to do. Was it his fault that Charlton were sh*t and had zero ambition in the final third


There's more egg on keyboards around here than you'd find in a chicken coop!!

Just LOL and carry on

[windermere_royal]

Federici truly woeful for the 2nd and 4th (twice).

His one on one technique really gets to me. just stand there with is arms out rather than making himself big. that won`t work in the PL.

[Snowball]

Our last ten league games we have had 5 clean sheets and conceded 1 goal x 5 times

We have the equal best defence in the league.

Not bad for "no keepers"

[windermere_royal]

Our last ten league games we have had 5 clean sheets and conceded 1 goal x 5 times

We have the equal best defence in the league.

Not bad for "no keepers"

pretty sure it`s down to our strong defence rather than the keepers. like to see the stats for off and on target shots against us this term.

[Woodcote Royal]

In any decent defence the two are inseparable

[sandman]

Whilst Federici could have done better with the Bony goal he didn't push it straight in front of him to Bony, the Bournemouth defenders were caught flat footed. If they'd have been more aware the ball was salvageable, great reactions from the striker to sneak in on the defenders blindside. Not seen the other one so can't comment on it but it sounds like it was definitely Federici's fault.

[SCIAG]

I note posters in the BFTG thread marking down Al Habsi because he had little to do. Was it his fault that Charlton were sh*t and had zero ambition in the final third

It's pretty much standard practice to give the goalkeeper a 6 if he has nothing to do. Personally I start at 6 and look for reasons to raise or lower the score, rather than starting at 10 and lowering from there.

[Ian Royal]

I note posters in the BFTG thread marking down Al Habsi because he had little to do. Was it his fault that Charlton were sh*t and had zero ambition in the final third

It's pretty much standard practice to give the goalkeeper a 6 if he has nothing to do. Personally I start at 6 and look for reasons to raise or lower the score, rather than starting at 10 and lowering from there.

Well exactly.

When was the last time Woodcote posted something positive without a dig at someone? 2006?

[JC]

Our last ten league games we have had 5 clean sheets and conceded 1 goal x 5 times

We have the equal best defence in the league.

Not bad for "no keepers"

pretty sure it`s down to our strong defence rather than the keepers. like to see the stats for off and on target shots against us this term.

Before Saturday it was 73 shots against us with 20 on target both of which were the best in the division. The next best were 109 (Brighton) and 34 (Preston) respectively. Given our figures on Saturday were 2 and 1 then I guess we will be even further ahead of the next team when all the stats are in.

[Ian Royal]

Our last ten league games we have had 5 clean sheets and conceded 1 goal x 5 times

We have the equal best defence in the league.

Not bad for "no keepers"

pretty sure it`s down to our strong defence rather than the keepers. like to see the stats for off and on target shots against us this term.

Before Saturday it was 73 shots against us with 20 on target both of which were the best in the division. The next best were 109 (Brighton) and 34 (Preston) respectively. Given our figures on Saturday were 2 and 1 then I guess we will be even further ahead of the next team when all the stats are in.

So 20 on target and 7 goals conceded...

I'd be as interested in the comparative proportion of goals scored vs shots on target conceded than the absolute figures. The keeper doesn't do huge amounts to stop shots from being taken.

I think it's fair to say the defence has given Bond and Al-Habsi a fairly easy time of it.

[CountryRoyal]

In the division at the moment we have;

The lowest amount of shots conceded: 7.3pg (next lowest is Brighton at 10.9)

The second lowest percentage of shots on target conceded: 27.4% (the lowest is Derby with 26.1%)

The 7th highest goal conceded to shot ratio: 35% (Brentford - 35.2%, Rotherham - 35.9%, Preston - 38.2%, Ipswich 41.5%, QPR - 42.6%, Bristol City - 47.6%)

Just seen these don't take the last game into consideration.

[JC]

In the division at the moment we have;

The lowest amount of shots conceded: 7.3pg (next lowest is Brighton at 10.9)

The second lowest percentage of shots on target conceded: 27.4% (the lowest is Derby with 26.1%)

The 7th highest goal conceded to shot ratio: 35% (Brentford - 35.2%, Rotherham - 35.9%, Preston - 38.2%, Ipswich 41.5%, QPR - 42.6%, Bristol City - 47.6%)

Just seen these don't take the last game into consideration.

I am not convinced that the percentage of goals to shots should be based on shots on target. If you calculate it against all shots then we are in 12th place. Surely the lower we can get the shots on target the better which might well inflate the % of goals scored compared to all shots. Taken to an extreme if we only allowed 1 shot on target per game and they scored then it would be 100% but it would still be a reasonable performance

[Ian Royal]

In the division at the moment we have;

The lowest amount of shots conceded: 7.3pg (next lowest is Brighton at 10.9)

The second lowest percentage of shots on target conceded: 27.4% (the lowest is Derby with 26.1%)

The 7th highest goal conceded to shot ratio: 35% (Brentford - 35.2%, Rotherham - 35.9%, Preston - 38.2%, Ipswich 41.5%, QPR - 42.6%, Bristol City - 47.6%)

Just seen these don't take the last game into consideration.

I am not convinced that the percentage of goals to shots should be based on shots on target. If you calculate it against all shots then we are in 12th place. Surely the lower we can get the shots on target the better which might well inflate the % of goals scored compared to all shots. Taken to an extreme if we only allowed 1 shot on target per game and they scored then it would be 100% but it would still be a reasonable performance

It would be a reasonable performance overall, but you'd have to be asking serious questions about keeper that never saved a single shot. As always, no stat should be taken in isolation or as more than a useful indicator.

[CountryRoyal]

Yeah at the end of the day they should be there for reference, in any sport it's impossible to have such a reliance on stats purely because there are so many factors you that statistics don't and can't take into consideration.

As it is you can look at those figures how you like, but it just gives a rough idea of how we are doing which pretty much reinforces what most on here think anyway, in that we are very tight at the back, however a higher than average proportion of shots on target result in a goal for the opposition.

[Ian Royal]

Precisely. The keepers haven't been terrible or anything. Al-Habsi's dropped a couple of clangers in the cup, but done fine in the League. And Bond's dropped a clanger in the league, whilst leaving the feeling that whilst there was nothing terrible about the other goals he's conceded, you'd rather hope a good keeper at this level would do a little better on at least one or two of them.

Given how superbly the rest of the team are doing it just highlights the slightly mediocre performance between the sticks. And the lack of opportunities to make good saves is only reinforcing it as there's few top saves to counter the soft goals.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Now where did I read something similar a few weeks ago