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Re: Matejovsky

by LoyalRoyalFan » 01 Sep 2009 17:23

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LoyalRoyalFan He's a creative midfielder. From recent season's we lacked that sort of midfielder. A player who can create a goal-scoring chance or go for that long range shot. The only players who have been able to do that in recent years are the likes of Sidwell,Caskey or Michael Gilkes.


You do realise that he's been with us for those recent seasons don't you?

I think he's flattered to deceive and is possibly the most over rated player I've seen in 25 years at Reading.

He's still good, and I'll be pleased if he gets fit and finds his place in the team and fulfils some of that potential, but basically, for a variety of reasons, he's been a let down so far.

Judging by your little list there, I take it you never saw Simon Osborn (admittedly not recent, but then nor is Gilkes) or Glenn Little play?


Osborn was a good player and so was Little. My 'little' list could continue,but the point is that Matejovsky is a good player and i'll admit to him being a bit over-rated at times.

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Re: Matejovsky

by Hoop Blah » 01 Sep 2009 17:23

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andrew1957 Frankly Sigurdsson has dome more effective things in the last two games than I recall Matejovsky doing in the last 12 months.

We all see the potential in Matejovsky but he does not actually produce very much - for all his supposed defense splitting passes I think he managed just one assist all last season.


Thanks largely due to lack of anticipation by his team mates.


This is absolute rubbish and the biggest cop out going.

A can only picture a few instances in 18 months where he's played a great ball that his team mates haven't seen is on. I've seen him play similar balls into space that they just don't stand a chance of getting to, or balls that his they've gone on to waste the chance, but the same can be said of every player that ever passed a football.

If he is that good he should be capable of tailoring his game to those around him. He should be reading what they're doing not playing the ball somewhere and hoping they'll get there. That's expecially true once he'd been here for a few weeks, let alone 18 months!

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Re: Matejovsky

by Hoop Blah » 01 Sep 2009 17:25

LoyalRoyalFan Osborn was a good player and so was Little. My 'little' list could continue,but the point is that Matejovsky is a good player and i'll admit to him being a bit over-rated at times.


So if that little list isn't so little then I take it you're point that we've missed that creative ability was wrong?

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Re: Matejovsky

by wolsey » 01 Sep 2009 17:27

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LoyalRoyalFan He's a creative midfielder. From recent season's we lacked that sort of midfielder. A player who can create a goal-scoring chance or go for that long range shot. The only players who have been able to do that in recent years are the likes of Sidwell,Caskey or Michael Gilkes.


You do realise that he's been with us for those recent seasons don't you?

I think he's flattered to deceive and is possibly the most over rated player I've seen in 25 years at Reading.

He's still good, and I'll be pleased if he gets fit and finds his place in the team and fulfils some of that potential, but basically, for a variety of reasons, he's been a let down so far.

Judging by your little list there, I take it you never saw Simon Osborn (admittedly not recent, but then nor is Gilkes) or Glenn Little play?


Osborn was a good player and so was Little. My 'little' list could continue,but the point is that Matejovsky is a good player and i'll admit to him being a bit over-rated at times.


Matejovsky has acheived absolutely nothing since his arrival - and to blame his failure on the shortcomings of the rest of the team (which I realise that you haven't claimed) is laughable.

If his visionary skills are so advanced why hasn't he been targeted by a team with players capable of taking advantage of them?
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Re: Matejovsky

by Row Z Royal » 01 Sep 2009 17:27

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andrew1957 Frankly Sigurdsson has dome more effective things in the last two games than I recall Matejovsky doing in the last 12 months.

We all see the potential in Matejovsky but he does not actually produce very much - for all his supposed defense splitting passes I think he managed just one assist all last season.


Thanks largely due to lack of anticipation by his team mates.


This is absolute rubbish and the biggest cop out going.

A can only picture a few instances in 18 months where he's played a great ball that his team mates haven't seen is on. I've seen him play similar balls into space that they just don't stand a chance of getting to, or balls that his they've gone on to waste the chance, but the same can be said of every player that ever passed a football.

If he is that good he should be capable of tailoring his game to those around him. He should be reading what they're doing not playing the ball somewhere and hoping they'll get there. That's expecially true once he'd been here for a few weeks, let alone 18 months!


Sorry old chap, but we're going to have to agree to disagree.


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Re: Matejovsky

by LoyalRoyalFan » 01 Sep 2009 17:33

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LoyalRoyalFan Osborn was a good player and so was Little. My 'little' list could continue,but the point is that Matejovsky is a good player and i'll admit to him being a bit over-rated at times.


So if that little list isn't so little then I take it you're point that we've missed that creative ability was wrong?


We've missed that creative edge over the last season. Towards the end of last season, when we started playing the long ball system, we completely missed out the central midfielders. Matejovsky, in my view, is a player who can create chances and doesn't revert to the long ball system. He doesn't play well all the time,but he is a player, like the others on the 'little' list, who brings that creative edge to the team.

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Re: Matejovsky

by Hoop Blah » 01 Sep 2009 17:34

Fair enough RZR, was just pointing out that your wrong on this one!

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Re: Matejovsky

by Big Foot » 01 Sep 2009 17:36

Matejovsky playing just off of Noel Hunt with Karacan and Tabb supporting would be sublime IMO

Sigurdsson to come on for last 20-30 mins to blood him into the team gradually when Matejovsky gets tired

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Re: Matejovsky

by LoyalRoyal22 » 01 Sep 2009 18:01

I really hope he stays and plays, he is one of our most gifted players, and we are finally playing a system that would suit him.


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Re: Matejovsky

by andrew1957 » 01 Sep 2009 18:24

Big Foot Matejovsky playing just off of Noel Hunt with Karacan and Tabb supporting would be sublime IMO

Sigurdsson to come on for last 20-30 mins to blood him into the team gradually when Matejovsky gets tired


If he stays it is far more likely that we will see Matejovsky coming on as a sub for Sigurdsson from what I have seen.

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Re: Matejovsky

by ZacNaloen » 02 Sep 2009 21:38

Sparta Prague are close to admitting defeat in their efforts to sign Marek Matejovsky from Reading.

The 27-year-old international is yet to feature in the league for Reading this season.

Sparta are now keen to take Matejovsky back to his native Czech Republic - but Reading do not seem keen on striking a deal.

"Reading don't like the possibility of releasing Matejovsky," Sparta director Jakub Otava told CTK.

"Hope has not died yet, we are still be trying to reach an agreement although it is not very likely that a deal will be made."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 97,00.html




Not in our plans I here thee cry.

Sounds like we don't want him to go just yet.

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Re: Matejovsky

by North Somerset Royal » 02 Sep 2009 21:45

More likely that Sparta are not prepared to pay all/sufficient of his wages. If he stays he will be a bit part player at best. If he was really as gifted as some on here think then surely Prem/Champ teams would be quueing up to sign him. The fact that he has never been linked with any other British club says it all in my view.

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Re: Matejovsky

by SteveRoyal » 02 Sep 2009 21:50

Weren't Liverpool interested in him before we signed him?


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Re: Matejovsky

by The whole year inn » 02 Sep 2009 21:51

SteveRoyal Weren't Liverpool interested in him before we signed him?


You're confusing him with Simon Church

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Re: Matejovsky

by SteveRoyal » 02 Sep 2009 21:52

Smoking Kills Dancing Doe I'm as good as Maradona.

How? Do you score goals with your hands?

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Re: Matejovsky

by AthleticoSpizz » 02 Sep 2009 21:54

SteveRoyal Weren't Liverpool interested in him before we signed him?
you're right, they weren't

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Re: Matejovsky

by The Rouge » 03 Sep 2009 10:13

I am not 100% in either camp, but there were certainly times towards the end of last season (when he got on the pitch) when he slid through a few through balls that the wingers/strikers would have received running towards goal, had they been on the same wavelength.

I have another theory re: Marek.

I think geting rid of Harper and Rosenior shows that there are many wages based decisions being made. Maybe appearance/assist/goals bonuses are also a big concern and that is why those three haven't been playing more games??

Maybe now the books have been balanced, being able to play Marek and pay all the related bonuses have been factored in. I am more than happy with Karacan, Gunnarsson and Sigurdsson, but I would love to see a Karacan/Marek/Sigurdssson midfield with Karacan playing the makelele role, marek pulling the strings in and around the centre circle and sigurdsson mainly operating between the centre circle and their penalty box.

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Re: Matejovsky

by MalcybabyRFC » 03 Sep 2009 10:51

LoyalRoyal22 I really hope he stays and plays, he is one of our most gifted players, and we are finally playing a system that would suit him.


Good shout LoyalRoyal22.

If up to now all we've been doing is playing a failing long ball game, then its no wonder Matejovsky hasnt shone as well as he is definately capable of doing. Under BR's new look, young "football playing" side that is completly different to last years set up, IMHO he has the potential to be one of our best players this year and brings the added experience in the centre of the park so desparately required for the young lads :!:

I know the deal wasnt done (which I was over the moon with) but wasnt he nearly taken to Sparta Prague this summer, a champions league team with big players and a big history? He is also still at Reading, which counts for something in a summer where Rodgers isnt scared of loosing the big names and he could have got good money for him :!:

Dont believe he is a waste of space at all - Rock on Marek :!:

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Re: Matejovsky

by rhroyal » 03 Sep 2009 11:42

I remember going to some games where Matejovsky has been lightweight, a liability and as ineffective as the rest of the team. Games such as Bolton and Fulham in the Premiership come to mind. However I remember some games, such as THAT Spurs game we lost, where we only looked like scoring when he was on the pitch. Against Brum last season he turned the game when he came on. He has the ability to create that bit of quality that other players aren't capable of. However he also gives the ball away multiple times in the process.

It's worth noting that he hasn't really been fully fit under Rodgers as yet. Equally worth noting is that he didn't become a regular fixture in Coppell's side. No side has ever come in for him since our relegation. If he also fails to fix himself in Rodgers' squad, maybe there is a very good reason for this.

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Re: Matejovsky

by Man Friday » 03 Sep 2009 12:10

Hoop Blah Fair enough RZR, was just pointing out that your wrong on this one!

Dammit. "You're" as in "you are".

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