Brian: The right decision?

[windermere_royal]

Deal with the oxf*rd substance Brenders, instead of just trying to be cute.

I'm saying we were going into melt-down and McDermot HAD TO GO to save the club

It's a very good decision (for the club)

Greed

[melonhead]

i have dealt with the substance
the substance seems to be" i predicted we would get a massive thrashing in future games if mcdermott stayed, and this is important as its my opinion, based on mad predictions of future scenarios"

thats what i commented on.

no need to swear

[windermere_royal]

It's a very good decision (for the club)

In your opinion which lots of people disagree with

And just as many agree with, isn`t debate wondeful?

[mr_number]

I believe this sacking is an utter load of crap. He was a hero mere months ago, earned the right to manage every minute of this season

So did Adkins at Southampton, but they were ruthless just as we have been, I wonder if the Saints fans kicked up like as happened here, it appears their decision was vindicated, i hope ours is too.

Interesting. A lot of Saints fans were outraged - there was chat of a protest before they realised that would make them look like vvankers. Also, I'm not sure to what extent it has been vindicated, seeing as Saints are just as much in danger of relegation as when Adkins was last there.

[melonhead]

It's a very good decision (for the club)

In your opinion which lots of people disagree with

And just as many agree with, isn`t debate wondeful?

but his opinion is based on possible predictions of the future which did not, and couldnt no longer ever come true.
just seems a bit pointless.



he basically said " i believe its the right decision, because i said it was last week, based on the possibility that in the future something bad may happen."

the first line of that is correct, and relevant,and he should have stoppe there
the rest is nonsensical gibberish

[Arch]

But there can't be hard evidence about whether it was the right decision, so you have to base your judgment on the relative probabilities of possible scenarios that won't be played out.

[melonhead]

surely you can only give your opinion based on events you have witnessed in the past.by assessing what went wrong, and how it was dealt with etc and what you would have done differently

saying something is correct because i believe a giant carrot will descend from the sky next wednesday doesnt make it so.
not at all.











although it is correct, and when the carrot descends you will all be feeling pretty damned sheepish, let me tell you

[Snowball]

i have dealt with the substance
the substance seems to be" i predicted we would get a massive thrashing in future games if mcdermott stayed, and this is important as its my opinion, based on mad predictions of future scenarios"

thats what i commented on.

no need to swear

Nope, the fact that I suggested what might well happen was already starting to happen is NOT the point.

The point is we were disintegrating as a team, the defence was shambolic,
the team rudderless AND THINGS WERE GETTING WORSE.

It was extremely likely, with Feds, Pog, Kebe out and the team playing poorly, that we were going to get tanked at Old Trafford and The Emirates

That would then be SEVEN consecutive defeats and if these were say 4-0 each a GD of 20-4, Reading rock-bottom of the league and with the worst GD in the league.

I believe that would be humiliating and would get worse thereafter (in the last seven games)

Anyone who has listened to Brian's litany of excuses recently must surely agree he's been more and more desperate

[Wycombe Royal]

Football fans have too much much sentimentality.

Here is the way I see it:

1) He was being too loyal to under-performing players.
2) He rarely altered the way the team played before a match kicked off to counter that way the opposition played.
3) His substitutions recently had become predictable and wrong (Saturday being the latest example)
4) McAnuff plays better in central midfield which is where he gets moved to during a game so as to accomodate him when making changes. Why not start him there?
5) Drops Pearce for one mistake yet doesn't drop others
6) Doesn't play to players particular strengths. He signs a ball playing central midfielder then rather adapt our style of play to fit him, he gets the player to alter the way he plays. Why not just buy a hoofer in the first place?
7) Adopts a long ball style of play whilst all the opposition pass us off the pitch
Most importantly - all season we have shown our inability to retain possession of the ball, yet there has been no apparent attempt to improve this. We have conceded goals time after time after giving possession away cheaply. I don't want to see a Swansea "keep ball" style of play but we need to be better at keeping the ball than we currently are.

[melonhead]

i have dealt with the substance
the substance seems to be" i predicted we would get a massive thrashing in future games if mcdermott stayed, and this is important as its my opinion, based on mad predictions of future scenarios"

thats what i commented on.

no need to swear

Nope, the fact that I suggested what might well happen was already starting to happen is NOT the point.

lol

[melonhead]

It was extremely likely, with Feds, Pog, Kebe out and the team playing poorly, that we were going to get tanked at Old Trafford and The Emirates

and brian going changes that how?


would you perhaps have said the same, before the last time we visited old trafford?

[Caskeys Lovechild]

i have dealt with the substance
the substance seems to be" i predicted we would get a massive thrashing in future games if mcdermott stayed, and this is important as its my opinion, based on mad predictions of future scenarios"

thats what i commented on.

no need to swear

Nope, the fact that I suggested what might well happen was already starting to happen is NOT the point.

The point is we were disintegrating as a team, the defence was shambolic,
the team rudderless AND THINGS WERE GETTING WORSE.

It was extremely likely, with Feds, Pog, Kebe out and the team playing poorly, that we were going to get tanked at Old Trafford and The Emirates

That would then be SEVEN consecutive defeats and if these were say 4-0 each a GD of 20-4, Reading rock-bottom of the league and with the worst GD in the league.

I believe that would be humiliating and would get worse thereafter (in the last seven games)

Anyone who has listened to Brian's litany of excuses recently must surely agree he's been more and more desperate

You think that's not going to happen now!??!?? CUTE!

That's still going to happen, and the fact is, that where there was once a man who they trusted, and worked hard for, the players are either going to have nobody. Or someone they don't know. Or someone on which they have no basis for trust. Or a oxf*rd NAZI SYMPATHISER!!

That's going to be marvellous....I can't wait.

[Elm Park Pasty]

Football fans have too much much sentimentality.

Here is the way I see it:

1) He was being too loyal to under-performing players.
2) He rarely altered the way the team played before a match kicked off to counter that way the opposition played.
3) His substitutions recently had become predictable and wrong (Saturday being the latest example)
4) McAnuff plays better in central midfield which is where he gets moved to during a game so as to accomodate him when making changes. Why not start him there?
5) Drops Pearce for one mistake yet doesn't drop others
6) Doesn't play to players particular strengths. He signs a ball playing central midfielder then rather adapt our style of play to fit him, he gets the player to alter the way he plays. Why not just buy a hoofer in the first place?
7) Adopts a long ball style of play whilst all the opposition pass us off the pitch
Most importantly - all season we have shown our inability to retain possession of the ball, yet there has been no apparent attempt to improve this. We have conceded goals time after time after giving possession away cheaply. I don't want to see a Swansea "keep ball" style of play but we need to be better at keeping the ball than we currently are.

Cheers Wycombe, sums it up for me!!! Saves me typing. Brian is an extremely nice bloke, but we have lost too many points in games against those in the same relative position as us. Those were the games we needed to get points from.

[Snowball]

It was extremely likely, with Feds, Pog, Kebe out and the team playing poorly, that we were going to get tanked at Old Trafford and The Emirates

and brian going changes that how? // would you perhaps have said the same, before the last time we visited old trafford?

Brian has/had BECOME the problem (IMO)... Pearce/Guthrie Hunt when pulled off Saturday,
dodgy tactics. dodgy substitutions

IF the players no longer have 100% belief in him (and haven't various players spoken out against him this season?)
then his going gives the players a chance to regain confidence in how they are being set up, how they are being led.

An example of this would be as follows.


A GOOD MANAGER (Brendan Rodgers) was replaced by a man who turned out to be a good manager (BRIAN McDERMOTT)
and the ship was turned round.

I believe any of half-a-dozen managers from the current list will get a surge in effort from the team and pick up more points than I think we otherwise would have.

[Norfolk Royal]

saying something is correct because i believe a giant carrot will descend from the sky next wednesday doesnt make it so.

[frimmers3]

a carrot is as close as a rabbit gets to a diamond.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Poor decision

Looking forward to hearing Brians version of this seasons events.

That is, of course, if the Russian weasels roubles haven't paid for his silence.

[Snowball]

Under Brian we managed 23 points from 29 games

= .79 points per game, projecting another 7 points, 30 for the season.

Trouble was we were clearly falling apart and playing worse every game, especially in the crunch games, so it's more than likely we would NOT achieve this total.

I sincerely believe we were going to lose to 1. Man Utd, 2. Arsenal, 3. Liverpool, 4. Man City, 5. West Ham, 6. Saints, 7. QPR, and probably 8. Norwich and 9. Fulham.

I based that on the fact that we were giving away bad goals, lost to crappy teams like Stoke and Villa, were ripped open by Wigan

I based that on the fact that teams 1-4 are MASSIVELY better than us, QPR are on a roll and have a lot more class than us (and we are on a downer), Saints have better players, as do Norwich and Fulham and West Ham, and West Ham have a strong home record.


So I am saying I could see us getting 0-7 points and finishing on 23-30 points.


I predict now, whoever we get in, we'll end up with 30+ points.

[Riseley]

Just when you think the season couldn't get any worse - Brian gets sacked and now people are saying Di Canio is in the running to be next manager, not only saying that he might be, but actually calling for him to be manager!

It's hasn't been easy to be a Reading fan for 46 years, but it may well be impossible for me to carry on supporting any club who appoints a dyed-in-the-wool Nazi as manager.

Another old git in yours truly has to concur with your viewpoint.

[Royal Lady]

^^^ Where you been m8?! We miss you!