Zingarevich

[Royal Lady]

Did he not think he might be asked about that then? He has enough men around him to ensure that he knows, in the main, what to say to the media!

Bad decision to effectively put all the blame on McD and if I had been Ady Williams, I'd have asked why he left it so long to get rid of McD in that case.

[soggy biscuit]

IMO he should have said "we cannot point the finger at one person. Maybe we are all to blame in some way - but lessons have been learned" or something similar.

He, clearly to me, pointed the finger at McD. He was basically asked "what it the manager's fault we didn't spend much money" and he answered "yes". He SHOULD have said what I said above. Which is far more diplomatic. Perhaps he will learn from this little escapade - we should know whether he has, dependant on what funds are spent in the Summer I suppose.

Could you have formulated that statement under massive pressure, when already a bag of nerves, while a reporter is grilling you with questions trying to paint you have as a villain?

It was pretty obvious those kind of questions would come up and there are simple ways around it. Some chairman don't do press conferences instead leaving it to press officers/those in a professional position to handle. Alternatively he could have read out a short statement on Brian leaving and then said that they would not answer any more questions on it as this was all about looking to the future.

Who's fault things have been are a bit irrelevant to the point I am making. Just think the way AZ pointed the finger yesterday was very disappointing when he didn't need to. I would have felt a little uncomfortable at those moments if I was Nigel Adkins

[winchester_royal]

IMO he should have said "we cannot point the finger at one person. Maybe we are all to blame in some way - but lessons have been learned" or something similar.

He, clearly to me, pointed the finger at McD. He was basically asked "what it the manager's fault we didn't spend much money" and he answered "yes". He SHOULD have said what I said above. Which is far more diplomatic. Perhaps he will learn from this little escapade - we should know whether he has, dependant on what funds are spent in the Summer I suppose.

Could you have formulated that statement under massive pressure, when already a bag of nerves, while a reporter is grilling you with questions trying to paint you have as a villain?

It was pretty obvious those kind of questions would come up and there are simple ways around it. Some chairman don't do press conferences instead leaving it to press officers/those in a professional position to handle. Alternatively he could have read out a short statement on Brian leaving and then said that they would not answer any more questions on it as this was all about looking to the future.

Who's fault things have been are a bit irrelevant to the point I am making. Just think the way AZ pointed the finger yesterday was very disappointing when he didn't need to.

Given the way the finger has been pointed at him by fans and journalists alike I think we can excuse him for saying he felt his manager could have done more.

[Royal Lady]

Agreeing completely with Soggy again I'm afraid. I feel dirty.

[melonhead]

just dont see how brian was supposed to attract expensively brilliant players here, regardless of how much money hed been given.
could we have bought 3 half decent players with that 10 million instead? i guess, but thats not really what we needed

[soggy biscuit]

Agreeing completely with Soggy again I'm afraid. I feel dirty.

Glad that offering statements that you agree with makes you so horny!

[Royal Lady]

just dont see how brian was supposed to attract expensively brilliant players here, regardless of how much money hed been given.
could we have bought 3 half decent players with that 10 million instead? i guess, but thats not really what we needed

So you agree it wasn't totally his fault then? Hallelujah. AZ clearly said "yes" when asked if it were the manager's fault - so not sure why you're sticking up for AZ in that case.

[themadstad]

Hard to know what really happened but with Anton saying 'we should have been more active' and Nicky saying something about it being down to the manager. I'm under the impression Brian didn't strengthen how the club believed he should with Anton leaving him to it to be somewhat more proactive in that field.

Brian did say they'll pay bigger money for the right player. Brian pretty much said he felt his squad were good enough without much change to Anton back in summer, he said this to us approaching Jan window. Fair enough because Brian mentioned on numerous occasions that we should stick with players that got us up.

The Gylfi bid must have been a case of right player etc. Brian said he was 'excited' at the prospect of this potentially coming off when he spoke of a big bid going in. He was allowed to buy another RB after spending over £2m on one back in the summer.

[winchester_royal]

just dont see how brian was supposed to attract expensively brilliant players here, regardless of how much money hed been given.
could we have bought 3 half decent players with that 10 million instead? i guess, but thats not really what we needed

Ultimately, we don't know what went on. It's probably likely that both were at fault. But given the hostility Anton has faced in the media over the last couple of weeks I don't think anything he said yesterday was out of order. Especially as he was originally trying to divert all the conversation back to Adkins' appointment.

[Royal Lady]

just dont see how brian was supposed to attract expensively brilliant players here, regardless of how much money hed been given.
could we have bought 3 half decent players with that 10 million instead? i guess, but thats not really what we needed

Ultimately, we don't know what went on. It's probably likely that both were at fault. But given the hostility Anton has faced in the media over the last couple of weeks I don't think anything he said yesterday was out of order. Especially as he was originally trying to divert all the conversation back to Adkins' appointment.

Well, perhaps he could have been advised beforehand to say he wasn't here to talk about past managers but to talk about the exciting new manager who has just joined us. It's really not difficult.

[themadstad]

just dont see how brian was supposed to attract expensively brilliant players here, regardless of how much money hed been given.
could we have bought 3 half decent players with that 10 million instead? i guess, but thats not really what we needed

Ultimately, we don't know what went on. It's probably likely that both were at fault. But given the hostility Anton has faced in the media over the last couple of weeks I don't think anything he said yesterday was out of order. Especially as he was originally trying to divert all the conversation back to Adkins' appointment.

Well, perhaps he could have been advised beforehand to say he wasn't here to talk about past managers but to talk about the exciting new manager who has just joined us. It's really not difficult.

Then fans and media paint their own picture then. If he's asked that question and says he won't comment then people will still moan etc.

[winchester_royal]

just dont see how brian was supposed to attract expensively brilliant players here, regardless of how much money hed been given.
could we have bought 3 half decent players with that 10 million instead? i guess, but thats not really what we needed

Ultimately, we don't know what went on. It's probably likely that both were at fault. But given the hostility Anton has faced in the media over the last couple of weeks I don't think anything he said yesterday was out of order. Especially as he was originally trying to divert all the conversation back to Adkins' appointment.

Well, perhaps he could have been advised beforehand to say he wasn't here to talk about past managers but to talk about the exciting new manager who has just joined us. It's really not difficult.

At the very start he said he only wanted to talk about Nige. Problem is RL, in this country we have a little thing called 'free press'.

[melonhead]

just dont see how brian was supposed to attract expensively brilliant players here, regardless of how much money hed been given.
could we have bought 3 half decent players with that 10 million instead? i guess, but thats not really what we needed

Ultimately, we don't know what went on. It's probably likely that both were at fault. But given the hostility Anton has faced in the media over the last couple of weeks I don't think anything he said yesterday was out of order. Especially as he was originally trying to divert all the conversation back to Adkins' appointment.

we do know what went on. anton gave brian the budget of ~10 million to buy a really good player (like ince or gylfi or aspas)
brian tried to get gylfi brian and aspas, but failed, either because the selling clubs thought they were worth ,more, or because they didnt really want to play for a few months for reading then get relegated.
thats not brians fault, thats not antons fault. it just is.

the only fault lies with brian for not then either having an endless list of 10 million pound attackingf midfielders to get instead, or to butymore players, for less money each. i can understand him not going with that second option

[themadstad]

Lets see what happens this summer with transfers etc. I'm a bit 50/50 on all of this but the expectation is a promotion challenge and I'm not entirely convinced we'll be in that mix really.

[winchester_royal]

just dont see how brian was supposed to attract expensively brilliant players here, regardless of how much money hed been given.
could we have bought 3 half decent players with that 10 million instead? i guess, but thats not really what we needed

Ultimately, we don't know what went on. It's probably likely that both were at fault. But given the hostility Anton has faced in the media over the last couple of weeks I don't think anything he said yesterday was out of order. Especially as he was originally trying to divert all the conversation back to Adkins' appointment.

we do know what went on. anton gave brian the budget of ~10 million to buy a really good player (like ince or gylfi or aspas)
brian tried to get gylfi brian and aspas, but failed, either because the selling clubs thought they were worth ,more, or because they didnt really want to play for a few months for reading then get relegated.
thats not brians fault, thats not antons fault. it just is.

the only fault lies with brian for not then either having an endless list of 10 million pound attackingf midfielders to get instead, or to butymore players, for less money each. i can understand him not going with that second option

We don't know that's exactly what went on.

[Extended-Phenotype]

just dont see how brian was supposed to attract expensively brilliant players here, regardless of how much money hed been given.

This your fall-back position now your "Brian didn't have anything to do with how much money was spent" yawnmantra has been butchered in a wood?

[melonhead]

Ultimately, we don't know what went on. It's probably likely that both were at fault. But given the hostility Anton has faced in the media over the last couple of weeks I don't think anything he said yesterday was out of order. Especially as he was originally trying to divert all the conversation back to Adkins' appointment.

we do know what went on. anton gave brian the budget of ~10 million to buy a really good player (like ince or gylfi or aspas)
brian tried to get gylfi brian and aspas, but failed, either because the selling clubs thought they were worth , or because they didnt really want to play for a few months for reading then get relegated.
thats not brians fault, thats not antons fault. it just is.

the only fault lies with brian for not then either having an endless list of 10 million pound attackingf midfielders to get instead, or to butymore players, for less money each. i can understand him not going with that second option

We don't know that's exactly what went on.

100% KNOW that the follwing is 100% true

owner released funds for the purchase of an attacking midfielder
manager targetted a number of attacking midfielders and made enquiries/bids
enquiries/bids were either turned down, or players turned us down.

[winchester_royal]

100% KNOW that the follwing is 100% true

owner released funds for the purchase of an attacking midfielder
manager targetted a number of attacking midfielders and made enquiries/bids
enquiries/bids were either turned down, or players turned us down.

Well forgive me if I don't take your word as gospel brendy..

[Esteban]

just dont see how brian was supposed to attract expensively brilliant players here, regardless of how much money hed been given.
could we have bought 3 half decent players with that 10 million instead? i guess, but thats not really what we needed

So you agree it wasn't totally his fault then? Hallelujah. AZ clearly said "yes" when asked if it were the manager's fault - so not sure why you're sticking up for AZ in that case.

Isn't this more about the fact that you have a well documented distrust for Zingarevich? Isn't it possible that Anton is a young man under pressure, under prepared and without anybody there to step in and help him out? Even SJM passed the buck.

He said something he shouldn't have said under pressure from an experienced journalist, who couldn't give two hoots about Reading or McDermott and was just looking for an angle on which to build a story. Anton made a mistake and said more than he should have done, about a man who wasn't there to defend himself. It happens. Get over it. McDermott will, maybe he already has.

Zingarevich will be found out if he fails to back Adkins. Just let it all play out.

[SPARTA]

Putting aside what AZ could have and should have said, he has now come out and publicly criticised Brian McDermott for 'not spending enough', and said he will back Nigel Adkins financially. Although we will be in the Championship next season, we can now expect a big budget for Adkins (that may be in wages rather than transfer fees, before the likes of Avon Royal sharpen their knifes ready), and even more so if we go back up!

If we don't see the investment, then Anton has set himself up for an almighty backlash from the fans.