Brian - Goals on Sunday

[Royal With Cheese]

Leeds fans seem to think they'll get McDermott but they hate the thought of long-ball and lower league players coming in. I think they've forgotten just how average they've become this last several years.

Considerably below average I think you'll find.

[Divvy]

BM will be on the Andrew Peach show from 7am tomorrow, BBC RB.

[Royal Lady]

BM will be on the Andrew Peach show from 7am tomorrow, BBC RB.

And he confirms that there was not enough money in the Summer - although he said both he and AZ realised that - very evasive about whether had enough for January - kept saying he bought 4 players and they tried for Ince and Gylfi but wouldn't be drawn whether he really had enough money to spend.

[melonhead]

not enough money available? or not enough money spent?

[winchester_royal]

We all know there wasn't enough money available in the summer, so nothing new there. No surprise to see him being evasive about January because he knows he got it wrong.

[melonhead]

thats completely arse over tit tbf


we all know enough money wasnt spent. what we dont really know is if it was made available, and who made that choice.
in january we know damn well there was more money available, and we tried very hard to spend it on at least two players who could have made big differences to our season.

hed have got it wrong if hed refused to spend it. but he didnt. he went all out to sign a big money, high impact player in exactly the position we needed to fill.
Tom Ince deciding he'd get a better club next year, and spurs' last minute pull out of the gylfi deal is to blame, and im guessing that left us too little time to sort out another signing. but thats just circumstance

[Sanguine]

thats completely arse over tit tbf


we all know enough money wasnt spent. what we dont really know is if it was made available, and who made that choice.
in the summer we know damn well there was money available, and we tried very hard to spend it on at least two players who could have made big differences to our season.

hed have got it wrong if hed refused to spend it. but he didnt. he went all out to sign a big money, high impact player in exactly the position we needed to fill.
Tom Ince deciding he'd get a better club next year, and spurs' last minute pull out of the gylfi deal is to blame, and im guessing that left us too little time to sort out another signing. but thats just circumstance

You don't know this.

[melonhead]

you cannot ever 100% know anything.

i have it on good authourity that his dad looked the club over and was happy with it. if he was going to move he wanted him to go to a club that he would get regular games at, rather than rotting on a bench in the top 4.
in the end it was our perilous position that was seen as too big a gamble for him, since it was likey hed be back in the championship next season, and they knew damn well that he can get a more solid cmove in the summer.

[winchester_royal]

thats completely arse over tit tbf


we all know enough money wasnt spent. what we dont really know is if it was made available, and who made that choice.
in the summer we know damn well there was money available, and we tried very hard to spend it on at least two players who could have made big differences to our season.

hed have got it wrong if hed refused to spend it. but he didnt. he went all out to sign a big money, high impact player in exactly the position we needed to fill.
Tom Ince deciding he'd get a better club next year, and spurs' last minute pull out of the gylfi deal is to blame, and im guessing that left us too little time to sort out another signing. but thats just circumstance

They talked about it and decided the lions share of investment in the summer was to go into the infrastructure, given that the scouting network was not proficient enough yet to spend heavily with any great confidence. Club-wide decision, no particular individual to blame.

They realised their mistakes and chose to invest more heavily in players in January. Money was there, we brought in 4 players, 2 of which are clearly for the future, one who comes in to rectify mistake of poor summer signing (Gunter), and another one who's played 45 minutes and then disappeared off the face of the earth. Last minute bids went in for arguably unrealistic targets, when we didn't secure these targets it left us woefully unprepared for a very important 4 month run in. Enough was not done by the management to identify other targets is what our Owner has said, manager unwilling to go into any great detail which points towards an acceptance of at least some of the blame.

[melonhead]

neither was totally unrealistic. nor the interest in aspas.
gylfi was 1 spurs signing away from coming here. spurs were up for it. gylfi was up for it. we were up for it. not unrealistic at all.
and a move which would have given us the boost we needed to pull out of trouble imo

[winchester_royal]

neither was totally unrealistic. nor the interest in aspas.
gylfi was 1 spurs signing away from coming here. spurs were up for it. gylfi was up for it. we were up for it. not unrealistic at all.
and a move which would have given us the boost we needed to pull out of trouble imo

That's why I said 'arguably', but if you look at it Brendy we didn't get them in and it may well have cost us a PL place that we didn't have a suitable back-up plan. Our move for Gylfi may have had legs, but given that it was dependent on a massively complicated Spurs move for Damiao it was never likely.

We put all our eggs in one basket on that final day and we lost them. So be it. Lessons will be learnt and we'll come back stronger.

[Royalclapper]

neither was totally unrealistic. nor the interest in aspas.
gylfi was 1 spurs signing away from coming here. spurs were up for it. gylfi was up for it. we were up for it. not unrealistic at all.
and a move which would have given us the boost we needed to pull out of trouble imo

Don't think Ince and/or Sig would have been enough to save the season, would have helped mind you. In hindsight, it might be for the best that big money wasn't thrown at a failing squad and may be better spent when some progress is made under Adkins' team overhaul.

[Divvy]

@ReadingFC__News
BM - "I spent what I was given" "The budget I had I spent, in hindsight, both Anton and I realise now we needed to do more." #readingfc

[winchester_royal]

McDermott says he gave Adkins a few words of advice before taking the job, adding: "I told him the owner will back you 100%.

[Bowman's Quiver]

thats completely arse over tit tbf


we all know enough money wasnt spent. what we dont really know is if it was made available, and who made that choice.
in the summer we know damn well there was money available, and we tried very hard to spend it on at least two players who could have made big differences to our season.

hed have got it wrong if hed refused to spend it. but he didnt. he went all out to sign a big money, high impact player in exactly the position we needed to fill.
Tom Ince deciding he'd get a better club next year, and spurs' last minute pull out of the gylfi deal is to blame, and im guessing that left us too little time to sort out another signing. but thats just circumstance

They talked about it and decided the lions share of investment in the summer was to go into the infrastructure, given that the scouting network was not proficient enough yet to spend heavily with any great confidence. Club-wide decision, no particular individual to blame.

They realised their mistakes and chose to invest more heavily in players in January. Money was there, we brought in 4 players, 2 of which are clearly for the future, one who comes in to rectify mistake of poor summer signing (Gunter), and another one who's played 45 minutes and then disappeared off the face of the earth. Last minute bids went in for arguably unrealistic targets, when we didn't secure these targets it left us woefully unprepared for a very important 4 month run in. Enough was not done by the management to identify other targets is what our Owner has said, manager unwilling to go into any great detail which points towards an acceptance of at least some of the blame.

I'm not sure that any great mistake was made long term. There's a run down club on the South coast heading into league 2 at a rate of knots who's supporters dearly wish their owners had invested more in infrastructure rather than spunking vast amounts of money on transfers fee and wages.

[melonhead]

neither was totally unrealistic. nor the interest in aspas.
gylfi was 1 spurs signing away from coming here. spurs were up for it. gylfi was up for it. we were up for it. not unrealistic at all.
and a move which would have given us the boost we needed to pull out of trouble imo

That's why I said 'arguably', but if you look at it Brendy we didn't get them in and it may well have cost us a PL place that we didn't have a suitable back-up plan. Our move for Gylfi may have had legs, but given that it was dependent on a massively complicated Spurs move for Damiao it was never likely.

We put all our eggs in one basket on that final day and we lost them. So be it. Lessons will be learnt and we'll come back stronger.

personally im happy with the - identify players you want, assess how much theyre worth to you, offer that much
and if the bids fail, dont just go and buy players you didnt really want- approach.
even if it means relegation

[melonhead]

neither was totally unrealistic. nor the interest in aspas.
gylfi was 1 spurs signing away from coming here. spurs were up for it. gylfi was up for it. we were up for it. not unrealistic at all.
and a move which would have given us the boost we needed to pull out of trouble imo

Don't think Ince and/or Sig would have been enough to save the season, would have helped mind you. In hindsight, it might be for the best that big money wasn't thrown at a failing squad and may be better spent when some progress is made under Adkins' team overhaul.

sig coming in would have extended our january run a bit longer imo, and the buzz in the stadium/team would surely have been enough to have won one or both of the wigan/villa games
though obv. we just dont know for sure

[winchester_royal]

Fair enough, I agree that it's the right approach, but I think we could have done more to identify more players that we do want. Suppose this is where improving the scouting network will hopefully come in.

[melonhead]

@ReadingFC__News
BM - "I spent what I was given" "The budget I had I spent, in hindsight, both Anton and I realise now we needed to do more." #readingfc

coupled with the "i should have been stronger" in pushing the owner for a bigger budget comments, and id say that conclusively ties up the who was ultimately to blame for the summer spending/lac k of it

[Sanguine]

@ReadingFC__News
BM - "I spent what I was given" "The budget I had I spent, in hindsight, both Anton and I realise now we needed to do more." #readingfc

coupled with the "i should have been stronger" in pushing the owner for a bigger budget comments, and id say that conclusively ties up the who was ultimately to blame for the summer spending/lac k of it

Both of them?