FAO Brian

[melonhead]

Brendy could you give some examples of first team regulars dropped for a couple of mistakes in one game if you think Brian's explanation is so truthful and reasonable. Because it seemsn to go against his whole ethos and previous approach to me.

i would imagine there are plenty of examples of players dropped for mistakes in one game.half the team probably
especially this season when we are struggling to find the right blend etc

[melonhead]

numerous player/manager fall outs

1

Hunt at the start of the season. Guthrie, the only one the club couldn't keep in house. Roberts had a fall out after Southampton away and hasn't played since. .

when you say 1 wasnt kept in house, what you mean is that there is only 1 that you really know about.



or from the opposite direction- listening to ex footballers talking about the rafa terry bust up - this shit happens every week on the training ground,, at every club.

either way i dont see brian doing these things as a vendetta, goes against everything i know about him as a man.

there is one player here who may deserve a vendetta, and thats guthrie. and he was back into the team straight away after his ban and injury.

if it was the contract, brian would come out and say- it looks like pearcey is off, so im concentrating on our other defenders who will still be here next year

[Ian Royal]

Brendy could you give some examples of first team regulars dropped for a couple of mistakes in one game if you think Brian's explanation is so truthful and reasonable. Because it seemsn to go against his whole ethos and previous approach to me.

i would imagine there are plenty of examples of players dropped for mistakes in one game.half the team probably
especially this season when we are struggling to find the right blend etc

So that's a no then.
Fed - errors in multiple games plus injury
Gunter and Cummings errors in multiple games.
Gorkss errors in every game
Morrison injury

Etc etc.

[Cobi]

So once again we're reminded of where we were three years ago, yet as a club we only focus on the next game...... AND THEN WE MOVE ON!

Stop hiding behind the past and focus on the now!!

[Extended-Phenotype]

ill just stick with the actual real one, you lot carry on worrying about the imaginary ones

just like brians imaginary vendetta against pearce

Did I imagine him being dropped for f/ck all reason?

no. there was a reason. just one that you disagree with.

suck it up.

Of course I disagree with it. How is dropping him for contractual reasons helping anybody? I could understand if when he came back in he played like he didn't give a shit, but he didn't - he was solid as a rock. And like I said on the other thread; not playing him is hardly convincing him to sign - playing him, winning games and staying up - that would be far more incentive, don't you think?

[floyd__streete]

Of course I disagree with it. How is dropping him for contractual reasons helping anybody? I could understand if when he came back in he played like he didn't give a shit, but he didn't - he was solid as a rock. And like I said on the other thread; not playing him is hardly convincing him to sign - playing him, winning games and staying up - that would be far more incentive, don't you think?

Bang on. Well said.

[Cypry]

Brendy could you give some examples of first team regulars dropped for a couple of mistakes in one game if you think Brian's explanation is so truthful and reasonable. Because it seemsn to go against his whole ethos and previous approach to me.

i would imagine there are plenty of examples of players dropped for mistakes in one game.half the team probably
especially this season when we are struggling to find the right blend etc

So that's a no then.
Fed - errors in multiple games plus injury
Gunter and Cummings errors in multiple games.
Gorkss errors in every game
Morrison injury

Etc etc.

But it's not simply a case of player makes mistake and is dropped as a punishment is it? There are a whole range of variables that'll affect the decision...

Brian needs to consider whether he has a better option to replace the dropped player - in the case of Cummings and Gunter, they both made mistakes and were chopped and changed a number of times until the arrival of Kelly.
Shorey has effectively been dropped since his error against Man City.
Perhaps he felt dropping Feds, early in the season, on the back of a couple of poor performances would be counterproducive?

Agree about Gorkks, but at the time he was struggling to work out his best back four and perhaps felt that Gorkks experience outweighed his proneness to errors?

It's also down to the relationship between the manager and the player - some players respond to being dropped and try harder, some sulk (I suspect Pearce is the former).

In the case of Pearce missing the Wigan game, he'd had a poorish game at Stoke, then Morrison came in for the United game and played really well against the top team in the country at the moment. If he's confident that it'll drive Pearce to try harder, then it's easy to understand why he might have felt that Morrison was a better option for the Wigan game - to be fair to Brian, recent evidence showed nothing to suggest that Morrison would have such a poor game against Wigan....

Tomorrow will be the key to understanding this situation - I'm expecting Pearce to be restored to the starting line up over Morrison - if not, only then will I start to believe that Pearce is being left out due to his contract.....

[melonhead]

Brendy could you give some examples of first team regulars dropped for a couple of mistakes in one game if you think Brian's explanation is so truthful and reasonable. Because it seemsn to go against his whole ethos and previous approach to me.

i would imagine there are plenty of examples of players dropped for mistakes in one game.half the team probably
especially this season when we are struggling to find the right blend etc

So that's a no then.
Fed - errors in multiple games plus injury
Gunter and Cummings errors in multiple games.
Gorkss errors in every game
Morrison injury

Etc etc.

what a lot of shit.
both cummings and gunter were dropped after specific errors in specific games.
same goes for half the squad, which is why i couldnt be arsed to list them. if you decisde to ignore all of those cos they dont fit your point it aint my look out.

feds gets a lottle longer due to being a keeper, and gorkss got longer as he was our senior pro in the defence, there for experience and his leftfoot.

tbf, ive already said i disagree with the decision though, that i thought pearce should have played, and it was a mistakle not to play him.

[melonhead]

Did I imagine him being dropped for f/ck all reason?

no. there was a reason. just one that you disagree with.

suck it up.

Of course I disagree with it. How is dropping him for contractual reasons helping anybody? ?

thats not why he was dropped.
he hadnt signed a contract whe he came back into the team.
weird to have such an intermittent grudge

[melonhead]

I'm expecting Pearce to be restored to the starting line up over Morrison - if not, only then will I start to believe that Pearce is being left out due to his contract.....

still could be a million reasons for it.


why would brian even say it wasnt if it was.
would be better off coming out and saying it. can see no reason why he wouldnt.

[winchester_royal]

Of course I disagree with it. How is dropping him for contractual reasons helping anybody? ?

thats not why he was dropped.
he hadnt signed a contract whe he came back into the team.
weird to have such an intermittent grudge

I genuinely hope he was dropped for contractual reasons. At least that suggests Brian is still of rational (though vindictive) mind.

[RoyalBlue]

I'm expecting Pearce to be restored to the starting line up over Morrison - if not, only then will I start to believe that Pearce is being left out due to his contract.....

still could be a million reasons for it.


why would brian even say it wasnt if it was.
would be better off coming out and saying it. can see no reason why he wouldnt.

Because he is starting to crack under the pressure. He has been shown (to be honest he dropped himself in it with contradictory statements at different times) of being guilty of a least one less than entirely truthful statement in the recent past. What's more, could you imagine the uproar if he did come straight out and in effect say I'm prepared to gamble with our PL status by not picking Pearce because he won't sign a new contract? The reaction would be far worse than it is currently when people can merely speculate as to his reasons, and a good many are prepared to either dismiss that speculation outright or give him the benefit of the doubt.

[melonhead]

id have no problem with that at all.

if pearcey is defo off, i could maybe understand such a conspiracy against him by the club, and have no problems with that being cited as a reason

[Millsy]

Since you've dropped Pearce this season, we have 0.5 points per game, as opposed to 1.875 with him in - you do the maths. How you can brush off his dropping on the basis of one game at Stoke is an absolute disgrace and Morrison was toilet today. How can you bring off Akpan when he was our only effective player today and leave Leigertwood and Karacan on - 2 players who seem incapable of passing a football.

Oh, and referees don't cost you three goals - hth.

FAO Brian, you know I'm 110% behind you and will defend you through thick and thin, but I agree with Royalee.

Is there some kind of help you can get for that?

Ha, He's a good lad and we all agree and disagree with each other about different things.

[Big Ern]

So once again we're reminded of where we were three years ago, yet as a club we only focus on the next game...... AND THEN WE MOVE ON!

Stop hiding behind the past and focus on the now!!

Massive +1