BFTG - Leeds

[DaveBanana]

Blackman 6: His best game I have seen- some nice touches-but he is just so weak, mentally and physically.

I wonder if being jeered by your own fans every game has something to do with that?

[Magic Hat]

Getting in the car briefly heard Dellor saying that Le Fondre was screaming "I should have started" in the dressing room. He's clearly not happy playing as a sub, should the club consider selling him in January and getting someone better suited to the system in?

Someone should point out to him that he's always gashbag when he plays from the start.

I expect they have, but I doubt Brian or Nigel would of used the word gashbag.

[P!ssed Off]

Blackman 6: His best game I have seen- some nice touches-but he is just so weak, mentally and physically.

I wonder if being jeered by your own fans every game has something to do with that?

What came first I wonder, the shit performances or the jeering?

[Ian Royal]

Getting in the car briefly heard Dellor saying that Le Fondre was screaming "I should have started" in the dressing room. He's clearly not happy playing as a sub, should the club consider selling him in January and getting someone better suited to the system in?

Someone should point out to him that he's always gashbag when he plays from the start.

He's there to score and his link up play is better than any of our other strikers when we play decent ball. He's started 4 league games and scored in three of them. He absolutely should be starting and no matter how many times people repeat he does nothing doesn't make it true.

[Wycombe Royal]

Getting in the car briefly heard Dellor saying that Le Fondre was screaming "I should have started" in the dressing room. He's clearly not happy playing as a sub, should the club consider selling him in January and getting someone better suited to the system in?

Someone should point out to him that he's always gashbag when he plays from the start.

He's there to score and his link up play is better than any of our other strikers when we play decent ball. He's started 4 league games and scored in three of them. He absolutely should be starting and no matter how many times people repeat he does nothing doesn't make it true.

If Pog hadn't been suspended I think the two of them would have both started. However Adkins can see, like most of us, that Alf cannot play the lone striker role and we are not effective as a team when he does.

[Ouroboros]

Getting in the car briefly heard Dellor saying that Le Fondre was screaming "I should have started" in the dressing room. He's clearly not happy playing as a sub, should the club consider selling him in January and getting someone better suited to the system in?

Someone should point out to him that he's always gashbag when he plays from the start.

Good use of "gashbag."

[Colin Cheeselog]

Getting in the car briefly heard Dellor saying that Le Fondre was screaming "I should have started" in the dressing room. He's clearly not happy playing as a sub, should the club consider selling him in January and getting someone better suited to the system in?

That's not true though. He was saying it to Dellor when he was asking him for an interview, probably with a smile on his face, not 'screaming it in the dressing room'.

Good spin though.

[CayeneMatt]

Getting in the car briefly heard Dellor saying that Le Fondre was screaming "I should have started" in the dressing room. He's clearly not happy playing as a sub, should the club consider selling him in January and getting someone better suited to the system in?

Someone should point out to him that he's always gashbag when he plays from the start.

Good use of "gashbag."

Agreed. I think I'll add that to my repertoire.

[Maguire]

Getting in the car briefly heard Dellor saying that Le Fondre was screaming "I should have started" in the dressing room. He's clearly not happy playing as a sub, should the club consider selling him in January and getting someone better suited to the system in?

Someone should point out to him that he's always gashbag when he plays from the start.

He's there to score and his link up play is better than any of our other strikers when we play decent ball. He's started 4 league games and scored in three of them. He absolutely should be starting and no matter how many times people repeat he does nothing doesn't make it true.

One was an o.g and one a penalty. That leaves him with last night's, although I concede that he did do well to score with his first touch in the last two games.

[melonhead]

Very pleased with that back five, by the way. That's 3 clean sheets on the bounce - a good reaction to a 6-0 drubbing I think.

probably the first time weve had 3 clean sheets in a row for ages too


not that i can be bothered to check

[M Brook]

Comments that it was a better performance might be wide of the mark, Brighton are a very difficult to break down and do not play an open game. We may have created fewer chances Saturday but that could have been down to the opposition rather than us.

We created more chances last night and that contributed to a better performance.

However good Brighton might be defensively, we should have the guile and experience to break them down. The fact that we didn't contributed to a poor performance on Sunday.

[melonhead]

Drenthe's end product wasn't great last night, but neither were the balls he was being given. Too often he made runs which either weren't spotted or the balls were so bad he had no chance.

Akpan didn't play well but then he's been out of the team for so long I didn't expect him to do much. Blackman isn't a striker, he seems much more comfortable on the wing and I'm surprised we don't give McCleary a go up top since he was supposed to do well there for Forest on occasion, but still, I thought that was one of Blackman's better games. Admittedly that isn't saying much.

My main frustration at the moment is hollywood pass Guthrie. How he's getting 8-9's from you lot amazes me. He picks the wrong pass 75% of the time, moans at everyone around him, but doesn't say a word when he fluffs his passes by either picking some sort of stupid punt that doesn't get anywhere near where he intends it to go or misses a simple through ball to a more forward player who has made a good run.

roystons probably one of two players(+guthers- and maybe HRK after last night) who is happy to receive the ball while surrounded, and come away with it more often than not

usually i agree on guthrie, but due to criticisim of my "unjustofied" h8 ive been watching him carefully recently, and in this game the good far outweighed the bad. and lets be honest, alot of teh bad comes from at least trying things that will unlock a game if they come off
so credit where due from me

[melonhead]

Where was McAnuff last night? Presume injured because I can't believe NA would ve picked Blackman ahead of him on the wing.

Picked Alf ahead of him there on sunday

I'm pretty sure the club twitter said he had taken a knock? I may have made that up. Either that or they're just being kind.

You don't miss it 'til it's gone eh?

last night yes.

diddnt think h was injured on sunday, but it may just not have come out


and i always think we miss him tbf


criticism of him, much like every other scapegoat you lot randomly pick has been largely unwarranted, and 100% counterproductive

[Pardsme]

It the first time I watched them this season, and they seem to be a shadow of themselves from previous season. There didn't seem any urgency from the players. It still early in the season, so hopefully things will pick up. It did seem like our outlet was down the left through Bridge. We are used to playing down the wings, and yet we don't seem to be utilising the wingers.

Was looking forward to seeing Williams and Drenthe, but they were poor. How some thought Guthrie was MoM I don't know. He misplaced passes countless times. Blackman - jury still out but he didn't do too bad. Less said of Hope the better. He was shocking, had high hopes after his cameo in the Premiership. At times, it didn't look like we had any strikers and hopefully Pog will be back on Saturday. Would also start with McCleary too. The defence looks solid, and hopefully Leighterwood be back soon, as he be perfect for this League. Crying out for him. It the last 3rd where we are struggling. I'm pretty sure once things click, it will all fall in place and Adkins need to be given time. You could see the relief and passion from the players when we scored. Even at the end too, how much it meant to them, when several of the players applaused the fans at the end. 4 minutes injury time and yet we scored in the 97th. Have to thank Guthrie for getting hurt (hopefully he hasn't hurt his shoulder), increasing the injury time.

All in all, still 3 points and always sweeter scoring the winner at the death. Roll on Derby!

[melonhead]

best of luck to the ill fella, maybe the south stand started singing to cause the heart attack

A friend of mine went to the hospital with him, he had a fit of some kind and they kept him in over night for observation

He dropped like a stone on the stairs right in front my mate and his kid, and mine ( I was still drinking beer!!) He and others were screaming at the medics to help. They were busy watching the game!! Glad he's ok as my mate's 1st impression was a heart attack.

and then strolled up the stairs casually after about a minute of people calling them up


much like the stretcher bearers for jem who didnt even pretend to jog

[No Fixed Abode]

As Focher said. Last night result papers over the cracks.

[LoyalRoyal22]

How can some people not see how important Guthrie is to our system. Must be down to poor knowledge. Sure he plays a few lose passes, who doesn't ? But the amount of time he finds a player or makes himself a yard to find a player is awesome. Everything starts with him in midfield and If he gets injured I would be extremely worried.

Also non-biased view as I think he's abit of a prick. But we need him.

[melonhead]

Yes 75% of the time. I don't understand why anyone would defend him for picking the wrong pass when he is the first person to rant and rave at the other players for not passing to him when there are other options. Only thing he did of note in the second half is the little run which resulted in nothing, and him missing several opportunities to release the ball to others around him in better positions.

Given, as you say, he is getting gr8 r8ings from most on here, you need to think iif your reading of the game is accurate.

im not sure thats entirely true
people always see what they want to see, and what fits with the view they already hold
and that just means alot of people want to see the good stuff.


i tried very hard to watch him carefuly all game, and to be objective
me and scottish john next to me, who h8s him play a game of count the good/bad things guthrie does
and while this game he came out with a very good score of +15, there were still alot of minus points in that.
i encourage our fans to try it with all their h8 figures, its usually very enlightening.

still think he had a very good game tbf.probably M.O.M or at least sharing it with pearce for me.
i simply challenge the idea that just cos more people say 8/10 than 5/10 that categorically means he was an 8/10


its the same with blackman/akpan - people h8 them because they see them as lower division signings from a particluarly poor period in our history.
consequently they have to do alot more than guthrie in order to get the same score as him.
just the way it is

[LoyalRoyal22]

As Focher said. Last night result papers over the cracks.

Cracks we already knew about. Improved performance.

[UpThePrem]

Very pleased with that back five, by the way. That's 3 clean sheets on the bounce - a good reaction to a 6-0 drubbing I think.

probably the first time weve had 3 clean sheets in a row for ages too


not that i can be bothered to check

Feb 2012 was mentioned on BBCRB last night.