Value on Long's Head?

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Hoop Blah » 03 May 2011 11:40

RobRoyal If Long has a £3.5m buy-out clause and there's some serious interest in the summer, the fact that Graham went for £2.5 is totally irrelevant.


Unless, like you hinted at, we're happy to accept less than the buy-out fee.

If we don't go up and decide that we have to cash in on Long (for financial reasons or just because he won't want to hang around) and the market price for him is £2.5m, and that's the best offer we get, it suddenly becomes very rellevant.

The one thing that we can be reasonably sure on is that nobody will pay more than we agreed with him at the back end of last year.

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Snowball » 03 May 2011 12:43

The emergence of McCarthy means we can sell him or Feds (if we have to)

That ought to be 2M.

If we don't go up Kebe will surely go.


So their won't be a NEED to sell Shane. Therefore we can sell at a better price (if at all)

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Hoop Blah » 03 May 2011 14:04

You may well be right Snowball, but my post was a hyperthetical situation to highlight that the market price for Long may well be relevant.

If we don't go up I expect Long, Kebe and Federici to go. How much we'll get for them I'm not so sure, hopefully a lot more than their worth.

I also think we might lose 1 or 2 of those even if we get promoted.

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Forbury Lion » 06 May 2011 12:22

Royal Rother £10m seems reasonable.
based on the recent prices of Darren Bent, Andy Carroll and Fernano Torres I'd say that was spot on.

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Snowball » 19 May 2011 12:58

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by royalsroyalsroyals92 » 19 May 2011 13:30

Anything less than £5m, i would personally be disappointed with, especially he has seemed to have become better than Doyle was - but thats mainly based on this season and Long this season. I think Long personally would only leave in a deal which would benefit the club greatly - he seems like a nice guy who is thankful to the club and hopefully that could benefit us

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by RobRoyal » 19 May 2011 14:05

Snowball bumped


Why?

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Snowball » 19 May 2011 15:00

Reminding myself and other participants that
there's money on this, and half the proceeds to the MS Society


Of course we want to go up and Shane stay and the sweep cancelled

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Big Ern » 19 May 2011 16:51

Snowball

So their won't be a NEED to sell Shane. Therefore we can sell at a better price (if at all)


Depends if promotion changes the conditions of his release clause, if not then £3.5million and he goes


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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Stuka » 20 May 2011 10:01

There seems to be a precedent of players leaving Reading and becoming inferior at their new clubs. If Celtic manage to buy him let’s hope this continues to even greater extent.

All a moot point if we go up of course.

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Archie's penalty » 31 May 2011 18:07

Where is the seperate thread where we put bets on about Long's leaving price?

I'm up for winning a bit of moolah out of the whole 'team falling apart' thingamagig.

Snowball, can you help here?
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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Super Royals » 31 May 2011 19:02

We aren't desperate for money (as far as i'm aware) ... there's no reason why we couldn't hold out for at least £6M, maybe even £8M :)

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Ian Royal » 31 May 2011 19:22

Super Royals We aren't desperate for money (as far as i'm aware) ... there's no reason why we couldn't hold out for at least £6M, maybe even £8M :)


There is if we have an agreement with Long he can go for less... And lets not forget his latest contract was negotiated before or early on in his recent goal bonanza. So the chance of us having put a "reasonable" figure on his leaving price of much over £5m isn't going to very big.


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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Svlad Cjelli » 31 May 2011 19:50

If he has a release clause in his contract s that he can leave for a sum over a certain amount (£4M?) - then why would anyone have to bid any more than that sum?

Once an offer is over that value, the choice of where he goes is his, not ours.

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by BenReadingFC » 31 May 2011 19:51

Madejski reckons he's worth £20 million.

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Svlad Cjelli » 31 May 2011 19:53

What does teh day to day running of the club, including sales and purchases, have to do with Madejski?

He can say what he likes, but if there's a release clause in his contract then he'll go for that figure and no more.

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Snowball » 31 May 2011 21:31

Svlad Cjelli What does teh day to day running of the club, including sales and purchases, have to do with Madejski?

He can say what he likes, but if there's a release clause in his contract then he'll go for that figure and no more.



A release clause only means we have to let the player go if the sum is met/exceeded

Doesn't mean there can't be 2-3 clubs in for a player.

Doesn't mean we can't offer the player new terms to squash the old contract.

eg, one season at an extra 10K a week is only half a million

sell Feds for 2M (as we have a replacement), throw in the extras we got from the cup, the POs and the PO final and we are probably OK

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Svlad Cjelli » 31 May 2011 22:20

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Svlad Cjelli What does the day to day running of the club, including sales and purchases, have to do with Madejski?

He can say what he likes, but if there's a release clause in his contract then he'll go for that figure and no more.



A release clause only means we have to let the player go if the sum is met/exceeded

Doesn't mean there can't be 2-3 clubs in for a player.

Doesn't mean we can't offer the player new terms to squash the old contract.


But it doesn't work like that. If a player wants to move for money then there's no way we can compete on that score. And if they want to move on for new challenges then we can't compete there, either.

And say there are two or three clubs in for him? It doesn't benefit Reading FC in the slightest. Assuming it's £4M, we are contractually obliged to allow him to sign for anyone who offers us over £4M.

So any bidding ware will be on the size of the signing-on fee, not the size of the fee to us.

Club A might offer £4M to us, and £1M to the player - there's no advantage to club B to raise the size of the fee to us, so their bid would be something like £4M to us, and £1.5M to the player, and so on.

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Snowball » 31 May 2011 22:57

is that why we got 7M for Gylfi?

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Re: Value on Long's Head?

by Archie's penalty » 31 May 2011 23:44

Archie's penalty Where is the seperate thread where we put bets on about Long's leaving price?

I'm up for winning a bit of moolah out of the whole 'team falling apart' thingamagig.

Snowball, can you help here?


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