Value on Long's Head?

[Snowball]

I think it's this thread.

[Mr Angry]

is that why we got 7M for Gylfi?

No release clause in Gylfi's contract; Hoffenheim made an approach, we put a price on the player which we wouldn't drop below, Hoffenheim met the valuation, Gylfi got sold. (I read somewhwere that one of the clauses we put as a condition of sale was for the money to be paid up front rather than, as is usual, paid in installments)

Totally different scenario where a player has a release clause built into his contract for £X Million; its quite simple to understand really; if you read SC's previous poat, that explains it as simply and as comprehensively as it can be explained.

[Handsome Man]

I think it's this thread.

I remember I was winning with a guess of £10 million

[No Fixed Abode]

£3.75m

[Snowball]

IF


he goes, sounds like 7 million

[Snowball]

Have a look at Snowball's list and tell me how many of those were bought from lower league clubs.
Yes they look at players but Doyle is one of the very few that came from a lower division club and that after having proved himself at that level before.
I will be amazed at any from our division going for £6 million and I think you will find my £3million tops may even prove to be excessive.
Gylfi was a player who scored something like 20 goals in his first season from midfield at the tender age of 20 and is clearly a better long term prospect than Long.

Wickham

[Mr Angry]

Have a look at Snowball's list and tell me how many of those were bought from lower league clubs.
Yes they look at players but Doyle is one of the very few that came from a lower division club and that after having proved himself at that level before.
I will be amazed at any from our division going for £6 million and I think you will find my £3million tops may even prove to be excessive.
Gylfi was a player who scored something like 20 goals in his first season from midfield at the tender age of 20 and is clearly a better long term prospect than Long.

Conor Wickham is being quoted at £10M, and someone from the fake hoops may well go for more than that (though to be fair, he came from Spurs originally).

As posted on 4th April in response to VM's post on April 2nd....

But Wickham is the exception that proves the rule.

[roadrunner]

PSG have bid over £13m for Tarrabt.

The world's gone fricking bonkers.

[Snowball]

Have a look at Snowball's list and tell me how many of those were bought from lower league clubs.
Yes they look at players but Doyle is one of the very few that came from a lower division club and that after having proved himself at that level before.
I will be amazed at any from our division going for £6 million and I think you will find my £3million tops may even prove to be excessive.
Gylfi was a player who scored something like 20 goals in his first season from midfield at the tender age of 20 and is clearly a better long term prospect than Long.

Conor Wickham is being quoted at £10M, and someone from the fake hoops may well go for more than that (though to be fair, he came from Spurs originally).

As posted on 4th April in response to VM's post on April 2nd....

Does that somehow make the incorrect statement correct?

But Wickham is the exception that proves the rule.

And when Taraabt goes for 13 Million it'll be TWO exceptions that prove the rule, no doubt

[Mr Angry]

Except that Tarrabt started at Spurs.

[Snowball]

Except that Tarrabt started at Spurs.

And your point is?

Taraabt played a whole season as a Championship player

MILLS started at Manchester City. Hundreds of "Championship players"
started at Premiership clubs. Kebe started in the UK as a Premiership player

[Hoop Blah]

Except that Tarrabt started at Spurs.

And your point is?

Taraabt played a whole season as a Championship player

MILLS started at Manchester City. Hundreds of "Championship players"
started at Premiership clubs. Kebe started in the UK as a Premiership player

I think the point Mr A is making is that the original point was regarding players who started in the lower leagues didn't go for that kind of money. Those that had a taste of it with a Premier League club and so had shown some ability (or not) at that level went for a bit more.

Not sure I agree with the point, but Taraabt has had that exposure at Premier League level that means he isn't totally unknown/unproven at that level (as has Long by the way).

[blueroyals]

Not sure I agree with the point, but Taraabt has had that exposure at Premier League level that means he isn't totally unknown/unproven at that level (as has Long by the way).

Long is completely unproven at premier league level. in fact he was unproven at championship level up until around 6 months ago...

[Snowball]

Not sure I agree with the point, but Taraabt has had that exposure at Premier League level that means he isn't totally unknown/unproven at that level (as has Long by the way).

Long is completely unproven at premier league level. in fact he was unproven at championship level up until around 6 months ago...

6 Months ago (today) = 3 January 2011.

Shane Long had 8 Championship Goals in half-a-season's minutes and two goals for Ireland

The season before he had 9 goals in half-a-season's minutes

The season before that he had 9 goals in half-a-season's minutes

Is that "unproven"?

And in the Premiership?

2006-07 3 Premiership Goals in 810 Minutes = a goal every 270 Minutes. (Plus a League Cup Goal v Liverpool)
2007-08 3 Premiership Goals in 831 Minutes = a goal every 277 Minutes.


Long has scored six Premiership goals at a rate of a goal every 3 games and has also
scored goals in cup matches versus Premiership opposition Liverpool (2), Villa (2) WBA...

[Platypuss]

Except that Tarrabt started at Spurs.

And is a premiership player.

[blueroyals]

Not sure I agree with the point, but Taraabt has had that exposure at Premier League level that means he isn't totally unknown/unproven at that level (as has Long by the way).

Long is completely unproven at premier league level. in fact he was unproven at championship level up until around 6 months ago...

blah blah blah blah blah...

6 goals in 2 premier league seasons =/= proven

[Hoop Blah]

Not sure I agree with the point, but Taraabt has had that exposure at Premier League level that means he isn't totally unknown/unproven at that level (as has Long by the way).

Long is completely unproven at premier league level. in fact he was unproven at championship level up until around 6 months ago...

I wasn't saying either were proven at that level.

Long had had more first team involvement but was still a long way from being proven Premier League quality, as was, and still is, Taraabt.

[Sarah Star]

Except that Tarrabt started at Spurs.

And is a premiership player.

I think that's unproven as far as yet.

[The Real Sandhurst Royal]

Sky Sports news report last night that RFC valued Long at £10m with four premier league clubs intrested with no firm bids.

[Mr Angry]

Again, another indication that there isn't a release clause in Long's contract.