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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by handbags_harris » 13 Jul 2011 12:17

Open minded about this. Personally anyone who calls me a c*nt (or whatever he called me) for voicing a (loud) opinion has some way to go to prove himself in my book, but that's no different to our previous incumbent showing a whole stand the finger.

Professionalism - nothing more than I'd expect from any professional footballer.
Consistency - goes missing in games sometimes. Has previously been considered by other club's fans as a player carried by his teammates.
Ability - undoubted ability, but not always shown.
Articulate wisdom - Kitson was articulate, ifnot always wise with what he said or did.

Not only that, he is a winger and wingers tend to be confidence players. You rarely see a winger made captain because of the personality qualities required to be a captain, qualities which rarely manifest themselves in wingers. But if our players respect the decision and think it's the right decision then fair enough. I need convincing that this is right, however, given the other obvious and seemingly better qualified candidates amongst the ranks.

But then again, what does my opinion matter?

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Thomas L'Heureux » 13 Jul 2011 12:21

Spud Gun I guess I must be the only one thinking this is a bit of a strange decision. Whilst I realise McAnuff is one of our most experienced players, he has been far from consistent to date. Also, playing as a winger makes it difficult for McAnuff to influence the whole of the team when he is on the pitch. Hopefully wearing the captains armband will bring the best out of him though.

Personally I thought Leigertwood would have been in with a shout for the captaincy purely for the way he leads by example on the pitch.

Has the vice captain been announced yet?

Dave Hedgehog has been named as vice-captain.

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Duke the Dog » 13 Jul 2011 12:27

He'll do. Let's face it the captain's job is fairly inconsequential on the pitch, especially in a first team. It's not as organisational as in, say, cricket is it.

Bit odd that it's a winger though.

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Svlad Cjelli » 13 Jul 2011 12:30

Duke the Dog He'll do. Let's face it the captain's job is fairly inconsequential on the pitch, especially in a first team. It's not as organisational as in, say, cricket is it.

Bit odd that it's a winger though.


Don't forget that (in theory, at least) the captain is the only one who can talk to the referee. In which case I think Jobi's perfectly suited to this role, considering the number of times he's calmed the previous captain down,pulled him away from getting himself into more trouble, and calmed things down with the referee.

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Whore Jackie » 13 Jul 2011 12:32

Pointed this out before, but I've never noticed a RFC player be so popular with opposing team's players. Jobi seemingly carries a lot of respect from within the game and has obviously gained McDermott's. Other than Griff or Leigertwood, can't think who else he could have picked.


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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Focher » 13 Jul 2011 12:34

handbags_harris Open minded about this. Personally anyone who calls me a c*nt (or whatever he called me) for voicing a (loud) opinion has some way to go to prove himself in my book, but that's no different to our previous incumbent showing a whole stand the finger.

Professionalism - nothing more than I'd expect from any professional footballer.
Consistency - goes missing in games sometimes. Has previously been considered by other club's fans as a player carried by his teammates.
Ability - undoubted ability, but not always shown.
Articulate wisdom - Kitson was articulate, ifnot always wise with what he said or did.

Not only that, he is a winger and wingers tend to be confidence players. You rarely see a winger made captain because of the personality qualities required to be a captain, qualities which rarely manifest themselves in wingers. But if our players respect the decision and think it's the right decision then fair enough. I need convincing that this is right, however, given the other obvious and seemingly better qualified candidates amongst the ranks.

i knew you wouldnt let me down Handbags

But then again, what does my opinion matter?

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Hoop Blah » 13 Jul 2011 12:36

Svlad Cjelli Don't forget that (in theory, at least) the captain is the only one who can talk to the referee.


What theory is that then? There isn't anything in the laws to that effect is there, or have they changed them?

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by dogzbollox » 13 Jul 2011 12:37

Spud Gun I guess I must be the only one thinking this is a bit of a strange decision. Whilst I realise McAnuff is one of our most experienced players, he has been far from consistent to date. Also, playing as a winger makes it difficult for McAnuff to influence the whole of the team when he is on the pitch. Hopefully wearing the captains armband will bring the best out of him though.

Personally I thought Leigertwood would have been in with a shout for the captaincy purely for the way he leads by example on the pitch.

Has the vice captain been announced yet?


Although I kinda agree with your sentiments Spud - ref Leigertwood, if you see some of the comments above about getting more out of JMcA as a player I can see where they are coming from too. Leigertwood IS consistent yes, but if there is a possibility of making McAnuff consistent as well and BMcD thinks this is the way to do it... then, as usual in Brian we trust eh?

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Svlad Cjelli » 13 Jul 2011 12:39

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Svlad Cjelli Don't forget that (in theory, at least) the captain is the only one who can talk to the referee.


What theory is that then? There isn't anything in the laws to that effect is there, or have they changed them?


The Respect Campaign that the clubs and leagues have signed up to.

http://www.thefa.com/RESPECT


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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by M Brook » 13 Jul 2011 12:40

TBM McD - "sign a new deal"
McA - "no"
McD - "i'll make you captain"
McA - "ok"


Not so sure about this one - tend to agree with TBM. Wouldn't have been my first choice unless I needed something to tempt him with to stay. Time will tell. Hope I'm wrong.

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 13 Jul 2011 13:00

Very limited for choice so no suprise that McAnuff has got the captains armband.

Can he lead, inspire, set an example for th team and hold the dressing room together only time will tell.

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Extended-Phenotype » 13 Jul 2011 13:09

Out of interest, what is it a captain actually does these days?

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by ZacNaloen » 13 Jul 2011 13:09

Shit like this is the reason he is a good choice for captain


"After landing in Graz, Austria Royals had a short bus journey south to Ptuj in Slovenia.

On they piled with players you would expect to be sitting near or next to each other gathered at the back of the bus.

McAnuff climbed onto the coach, saw young winger Jordan Obita on his own and sat down next to him.

He could have just walked on by the 17-year-old to join the rest of his mates, but this was just another example of how McAnuff's actions can so often speak louder than words."


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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Svlad Cjelli » 13 Jul 2011 13:11

ZacNaloen Shit like this is the reason he is a good choice for captain


"After landing in Graz, Austria Royals had a short bus journey south to Ptuj in Slovenia.

On they piled with players you would expect to be sitting near or next to each other gathered at the back of the bus.

McAnuff climbed onto the coach, saw young winger Jordan Obita on his own and sat down next to him.

He could have just walked on by the 17-year-old to join the rest of his mates, but this was just another example of how McAnuff's actions can so often speak louder than words."


Alistair Campbell would be proud of such spin. Odd that this story comes out the day he's appointed captain.

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by ZacNaloen » 13 Jul 2011 13:11

That's from Fordhams Diary not the clubs

Even if he is a pseudo club spokesman :lol:

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Svlad Cjelli » 13 Jul 2011 13:13

Yeah, but he knows what to report when - if he wants continued access.

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Hoop Blah » 13 Jul 2011 13:39

Svlad Cjelli
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Svlad Cjelli Don't forget that (in theory, at least) the captain is the only one who can talk to the referee.


What theory is that then? There isn't anything in the laws to that effect is there, or have they changed them?


The Respect Campaign that the clubs and leagues have signed up to.

http://www.thefa.com/RESPECT


But that hasn't changed the laws to restrict any player from talking to the ref or giving the captain any special licence to do so has it?

As a captain, you have no special status or privileges under the Laws of the Game, but you do have a degree of responsibility for the behaviour of your team.


Even if you are some way away from an incident when the referee feels he/she needs you involved in a discussion with a player, the referee will call you over. This will ensure that, as the team captain, you remain the point of contact for the referee.


Any player is allowed to talk to the ref, question a decision or ask for the remaining time etc just so long as they don't step over the line into dissent. Captains have no special rights, in theory or practice.

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Archie's penalty » 13 Jul 2011 14:12

Excellent decision.

Was just thinking yesterday of how much I wanted it to be Jobi. Well done mate.

And another reason to wheel out this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo7_Dazi4fQ

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by Ian Royal » 13 Jul 2011 17:19

Perfect choice IMO.

He's intelligent. He's calm. I think he's consistent though it seems some will disagree. Yes he drifts in and out of influencing our attack at times. But I don't think he's a player who ever goes missing. He's always worked hard to track back and cover / help out his full back when I've seen him play, even when he's having no joy going forward. He frequently drifts into the middle of the park to influence the game and he's central to most of our best team play. I don't mean best attacks - Kebe does a lot there, but often as an individual which is different.

He's been around and seen a lot and whilst the comparison with Kitson in terms of more than the average footballers Intelligence, I think he's got better judgement and is more down to earth about what he's saying, Kitson was more up himself.

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Re: McAnuff- New captain

by pace=forster » 13 Jul 2011 17:34

handbags_harris Open minded about this. Personally anyone who calls me a c*nt (or whatever he called me) for voicing a (loud) opinion has some way to go to prove himself in my book, but that's no different to our previous incumbent showing a whole stand the finger.

Professionalism - nothing more than I'd expect from any professional footballer.
Consistency - goes missing in games sometimes. Has previously been considered by other club's fans as a player carried by his teammates.
Ability - undoubted ability, but not always shown.
Articulate wisdom - Kitson was articulate, ifnot always wise with what he said or did.

Not only that, he is a winger and wingers tend to be confidence players. You rarely see a winger made captain because of the personality qualities required to be a captain, qualities which rarely manifest themselves in wingers. But if our players respect the decision and think it's the right decision then fair enough. I need convincing that this is right, however, given the other obvious and seemingly better qualified candidates amongst the ranks.

But then again, what does my opinion matter?


Where and what did you say that made him call you c*nt?

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