Dislike ex-Reading players

[harry]

Never really got the beef with Rosenior.

Likewise, he was a steady-eddy at Reading and to me always looked like he might make a step up.

I always thought he suffered, not so much for who he was, but who he wasn't.

M-U-R-T-Y

[taipairoyal]

Gotta be that LIta fella.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Never really got the beef with Rosenior.

Likewise, he was a steady-eddy at Reading and to me always looked like he might make a step up.

I always thought he suffered, not so much for who he was, but who he wasn't.

M-U-R-T-Y

Was a better player, just didn't shout as much so the fans didn't warm to him.

[Royalwaster]

Never really got the beef with Rosenior.

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... ng-4232659

But in many ways he was just pretty much saying what most of us were saying at the time about the lack of ambition of the club .... he didn't say anything negative about the fans etc.

[Nameless]

PAul Holsgrove obviously.
Michael Meaker for just being rubbish despite costing a lot and looking like he really didn't care (which by all accounts he didn't)
Not a big fan of Jamie Mackie either. Thought he was right up there in the 'turn it on for the cameras' club and again made it pretty clear that this was not where he wanted to be.
Not convinced by the Guthrie haters thing about 'refusing to play'. He din't. He told the manager he wasn't in the right frame of mind to travel to Sunderland (?) to sit on the bench. I thought there were off the field issues going on at the time and whilst I think a highly paid player kind of owes it to his employers to tough it out, sometimes it's more honest to say your not up to it if you are genuinely struggling. Would we praise an inured player who hid his injury and tried to play but as a result weakened the team and put himself out for longer ?

[Kuhl_Runnings]

Drenthe?

[genome]

There's a difference between "dislike" and "players who were a bit shit".

[Kuhl_Runnings]

Not a big fan of Jamie Mackie either. Thought he was right up there in the 'turn it on for the cameras' club and again made it pretty clear that this was not where he wanted to be.

+1
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jamie-mackie-reckons-qpr-hoops-9602829

The 29-year-old returning winger also revealed wearing blue and white hoops at Reading where he was on loan last season ‘didn’t feel quite right’.

I remembered this. And I also remembered how he ran up the pitch, got tackled, moaned and reluctantly walked back to the right wing, earning £300 each time.

[MoorgateRoyal]

Drenthe?

I really liked him but I think it was clear from the fact that he was spending what should have been the best years of his career, in the Championship.

I didn't dislike him at all, it was just obvious that he didn't have the mindset to match his abundant ability.

[MoorgateRoyal]

Drenthe?

I really liked him but I think it was clear from the fact that he was spending what should have been the best years of his career, in the Championship, he was never going to be a legend.

I didn't dislike him at all, it was just obvious that he didn't have the mindset to match his abundant ability.

[Nameless]

Not a big fan of Jamie Mackie either. Thought he was right up there in the 'turn it on for the cameras' club and again made it pretty clear that this was not where he wanted to be.

+1
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jamie-mackie-reckons-qpr-hoops-9602829

The 29-year-old returning winger also revealed wearing blue and white hoops at Reading where he was on loan last season ‘didn’t feel quite right’.

I remembered this. And I also remembered how he ran up the pitch, got tackled, moaned and reluctantly walked back to the right wing, earning £300 each time.

And in the Hudds cup game did nothing in the first half except moan at the ref and commit petty fouls forcing Clarke to sub him at half time.
When he could be bothered he was a good player, he just didn't bother most of the time. Is he related to Nick Blackman do you think ?

[John Smith]

PAul Holsgrove obviously.
Michael Meaker for just being rubbish despite costing a lot and looking like he really didn't care (which by all accounts he didn't)
Not a big fan of Jamie Mackie either. Thought he was right up there in the 'turn it on for the cameras' club and again made it pretty clear that this was not where he wanted to be.
Not convinced by the Guthrie haters thing about 'refusing to play'. He din't. He told the manager he wasn't in the right frame of mind to travel to Sunderland (?) to sit on the bench. I thought there were off the field issues going on at the time and whilst I think a highly paid player kind of owes it to his employers to tough it out, sometimes it's more honest to say your not up to it if you are genuinely struggling. Would we praise an inured player who hid his injury and tried to play but as a result weakened the team and put himself out for longer ?

So saying he can't travel isn't refusing to play in your eyes? Is there any excuse to be made for being in the 'wrong frame of mind' whilst scooping £60k a week? No, there isn't. Don't be a Guthrie apologist

[MoorgateRoyal]

PAul Holsgrove obviously.
Michael Meaker for just being rubbish despite costing a lot and looking like he really didn't care (which by all accounts he didn't)
Not a big fan of Jamie Mackie either. Thought he was right up there in the 'turn it on for the cameras' club and again made it pretty clear that this was not where he wanted to be.
Not convinced by the Guthrie haters thing about 'refusing to play'. He din't. He told the manager he wasn't in the right frame of mind to travel to Sunderland (?) to sit on the bench. I thought there were off the field issues going on at the time and whilst I think a highly paid player kind of owes it to his employers to tough it out, sometimes it's more honest to say your not up to it if you are genuinely struggling. Would we praise an inured player who hid his injury and tried to play but as a result weakened the team and put himself out for longer ?

So saying he can't travel isn't refusing to play in your eyes? Is there any excuse to be made for being in the 'wrong frame of mind' whilst scooping £60k a week? No, there isn't. Don't be a Guthrie apologist

Depression and other psychological issues are reasons for not being in the right frame of mind to play, regardless of how much you get paid.

Granted, that may not have been the case here, but it is a valid reason.

Although I suspect that if any player pulls out of a game and says they are suffering from depression, the reaction would be less from supportive from a lot of fans.

[SCIAG]

PAul Holsgrove obviously.
Michael Meaker for just being rubbish despite costing a lot and looking like he really didn't care (which by all accounts he didn't)
Not a big fan of Jamie Mackie either. Thought he was right up there in the 'turn it on for the cameras' club and again made it pretty clear that this was not where he wanted to be.
Not convinced by the Guthrie haters thing about 'refusing to play'. He din't. He told the manager he wasn't in the right frame of mind to travel to Sunderland (?) to sit on the bench. I thought there were off the field issues going on at the time and whilst I think a highly paid player kind of owes it to his employers to tough it out, sometimes it's more honest to say your not up to it if you are genuinely struggling. Would we praise an inured player who hid his injury and tried to play but as a result weakened the team and put himself out for longer ?

So saying he can't travel isn't refusing to play in your eyes? Is there any excuse to be made for being in the 'wrong frame of mind' whilst scooping £60k a week? No, there isn't. Don't be a Guthrie apologist

Guthrie was earning half of that, but in any case, money doesn't magically give you good mental health.

[genome]

Don't you know SCIAG? Once you earn above a certain threshold, you become a robot incapable of human emotion.

[Nameless]

PAul Holsgrove obviously.
Michael Meaker for just being rubbish despite costing a lot and looking like he really didn't care (which by all accounts he didn't)
Not a big fan of Jamie Mackie either. Thought he was right up there in the 'turn it on for the cameras' club and again made it pretty clear that this was not where he wanted to be.
Not convinced by the Guthrie haters thing about 'refusing to play'. He din't. He told the manager he wasn't in the right frame of mind to travel to Sunderland (?) to sit on the bench. I thought there were off the field issues going on at the time and whilst I think a highly paid player kind of owes it to his employers to tough it out, sometimes it's more honest to say your not up to it if you are genuinely struggling. Would we praise an inured player who hid his injury and tried to play but as a result weakened the team and put himself out for longer ?

So saying he can't travel isn't refusing to play in your eyes? Is there any excuse to be made for being in the 'wrong frame of mind' whilst scooping £60k a week? No, there isn't. Don't be a Guthrie apologist

When you don't read what people write but just wade in with your ill thought out comments you run the risk of looking silly.
Don't you ?

AFAIK the full reasons behind the incident were never made public. If Guthrie simply said 'Boss I really can't be arsed' then he was 100% in the wrong. I'm not convinced that is what happened. We have players who miss loads of games with highly physical injuries that just seem to never quite get right. Some of those players are very highly thought of. Guthrie pulls out of one game and it's enough for some to crucify him, despite maybe not having the full story.

[floyd__streete]

Never really got the beef with Rosenior.

Likewise, he was a steady-eddy at Reading and to me always looked like he might make a step up.

I always thought he suffered, not so much for who he was, but who he wasn't.

M-U-R-T-Y

Nah, it was because he was complete pony, with all the positional sense of Steve Fossett.

[One8Seven1*]

Nicky Colgan
Paul Bodin

[MoorgateRoyal]

PAul Holsgrove obviously.
Michael Meaker for just being rubbish despite costing a lot and looking like he really didn't care (which by all accounts he didn't)
Not a big fan of Jamie Mackie either. Thought he was right up there in the 'turn it on for the cameras' club and again made it pretty clear that this was not where he wanted to be.
Not convinced by the Guthrie haters thing about 'refusing to play'. He din't. He told the manager he wasn't in the right frame of mind to travel to Sunderland (?) to sit on the bench. I thought there were off the field issues going on at the time and whilst I think a highly paid player kind of owes it to his employers to tough it out, sometimes it's more honest to say your not up to it if you are genuinely struggling. Would we praise an inured player who hid his injury and tried to play but as a result weakened the team and put himself out for longer ?

So saying he can't travel isn't refusing to play in your eyes? Is there any excuse to be made for being in the 'wrong frame of mind' whilst scooping £60k a week? No, there isn't. Don't be a Guthrie apologist

When you don't read what people write but just wade in with your ill thought out comments you run the risk of looking silly.
Don't you ?

AFAIK the full reasons behind the incident were never made public. If Guthrie simply said 'Boss I really can't be arsed' then he was 100% in the wrong. I'm not convinced that is what happened. We have players who miss loads of games with highly physical injuries that just seem to never quite get right. Some of those players are very highly thought of. Guthrie pulls out of one game and it's enough for some to crucify him, despite maybe not having the full story.

People also need to realise that mental health is essentially the same as physical health. If someone has a dodgy knee, they are largely forgiven if it goes and they end up injured. If someone suffers from depression and need some time away from the game, they would be considered weak and a liability. That needs to change at all levels of society.

[Maguire]

Guthrie was a total prick. He'd be about the only person I can think of that falls into that category. People like Mills, no issue at all, played well for Reading and moved on to a better job.

I'm sure we'll get people on here giving Pardew stick in the run up to the 1/4 final but he doesn't deserve it either. Did a good job for Reading and has never to my knowledge been anything less that respectful since he left.