Stoke show RFC how to run a Real Football Club

[Alan Partridge]

if he wants the money hes put in back, plus a little profit for the ten+ years of utter grief and constant abuse from fans, then i say fair play to him.

LOL of course he has.

[Royal Lady]

Yeah - there has been no constant abuse from fans. Frank Waller got abuse!!!!

[Hoop Blah]

you only need to look at the posh result at teh weekend to see that a club that sells its best players every year, can still out compete, quite massively, teams that buy 10 new players a season

Firstly, lets wait and see where 'Posh are come the end of the season as people's comments thus far about our policy are taking a long term view, not just as a reaction to a one-off loss to Barnsley.

Secondly, they haven't actually sold off all their best players (nor have we) as they've still got the likes of Boyd, Lewis and McCann and Tomlin. They even went so far as keeping MacKail-Smith for a season under lots of interest last year(they've also lost McLean of course).

[Finch]

The moment Stoke and Wigan get relegated (which will happen at some point) will be the end for their ambitions. They'll be skint and in unsustainable debt for years ala Sheff Utd

[Hoop Blah]

The moment Stoke and Wigan get relegated (which will happen at some point) will be the end for their ambitions. They'll be skint and in unsustainable debt for years ala Sheff Utd

That would depend on the contract details with all their players and their ability to sell off their better players for decent fee's.

With the amount of revenue coming in through the parachute payments for relegated clubs I don't think we'll see clubs struggle with their finances in quite the same way as some.

You only have to look at how Newcastle and West Ham have coped with going down to see that it's not impossible to get the balance right.

[Jackson Corner]

The moment Stoke and Wigan get relegated (which will happen at some point) will be the end for their ambitions. They'll be skint and in unsustainable debt for years ala Sheff Utd

That would depend on the contract details with all their players and their ability to sell off their better players for decent fee's.

With the amount of revenue coming in through the parachute payments for relegated clubs I don't think we'll see clubs struggle with their finances in quite the same way as some.

You only have to look at how Newcastle and West Ham have coped with going down to see that it's not impossible to get the balance right.

Newcastle and West Ham were and are relying on going straight back up. If they don't the two dildo sellers will lose a lot of money.

[T.R.O.L.I.]

Stoke may be OK, but I can see Wigan dropping like a stone when Dave Whelan finally calls it a day.

[brendywendy]

if he wants the money hes put in back, plus a little profit for the ten+ years of utter grief and constant abuse from fans, then i say fair play to him.

LOL of course he has.

sorry, i mean apart from when he was still able to throw money at us.and when we were succesful at any point.
to even get a yearly sing along about the money is pretty daft imo. but each to their own.

thats in real life obviously. i cant pretty much guarantee hes had abuse from people on here almost constantly over the money..

[brendywendy]

you only need to look at the posh result at teh weekend to see that a club that sells its best players every year, can still out compete, quite massively, teams that buy 10 new players a season

Firstly, lets wait and see where 'Posh are come the end of the season as people's comments thus far about our policy are taking a long term view, not just as a reaction to a one-off loss to Barnsley.

Secondly, they haven't actually sold off all their best players (nor have we) as they've still got the likes of Boyd, Lewis and McCann and Tomlin. They even went so far as keeping MacKail-Smith for a season under lots of interest last year(they've also lost McLean of course).

doesnt matter where they or ipswich happen to finish. the result imo does point toward spending on players not being the be all and end all.
i agree you cant judge whether eithers policy, or ours, will be succesful after 4 games

and apologies, i was only referring to the "selling of all our best players" in the way the people moaning about it are saying it.
clearly we havent, nor will we.

[brendywendy]

The moment Stoke and Wigan get relegated (which will happen at some point) will be the end for their ambitions. They'll be skint and in unsustainable debt for years ala Sheff Utd

That would depend on the contract details with all their players and their ability to sell off their better players for decent fee's.

With the amount of revenue coming in through the parachute payments for relegated clubs I don't think we'll see clubs struggle with their finances in quite the same way as some.

You only have to look at how Newcastle and West Ham have coped with going down to see that it's not impossible to get the balance right.

Newcastle and West Ham were and are relying on going straight back up. If they don't the two dildo sellers will lose a lot of money.

surely west ham and newcastle are among the worst examples of sound financial management.though ill admit that their throw everything at it attitude to geting back up certainly worked before. i wouldnt bet on it always working though

[Forbury Lion]

Can Stoke survive relegation or have they not even built that into their plans?

[mr_number]

On a slightly different note, does anyone remember when the last big anti-SJM thing was - must have been before Pardew... There was some home game where a load of people ran onto the pitch - any idea which match it was?

[brendywendy]

havent we had awheres all the money gone chanting session for the last three or four years?
or do you mean bigger than that?

the one good thing about the last one was it seemed to stop him coming on the pitch for a while,

[mr_number]

Nah, there was a big pitch invasion just after we moved to the Madejski I think where half the East stand ran over to the dugouts.

[Vision]

On a slightly different note, does anyone remember when the last big anti-SJM thing was - must have been before Pardew... There was some home game where a load of people ran onto the pitch - any idea which match it was?

Cambridge rings a bell. (What happened to them?)

[PieEater]

Nah, there was a big pitch invasion just after we moved to the Madejski I think where half the East stand ran over to the dugouts.

I don't remember that, but PANTS day was a top protest.

[Finch]

The moment Stoke and Wigan get relegated (which will happen at some point) will be the end for their ambitions. They'll be skint and in unsustainable debt for years ala Sheff Utd

That would depend on the contract details with all their players and their ability to sell off their better players for decent fee's.

With the amount of revenue coming in through the parachute payments for relegated clubs I don't think we'll see clubs struggle with their finances in quite the same way as some.

You only have to look at how Newcastle and West Ham have coped with going down to see that it's not impossible to get the balance right.

Both clubs are skint! FACT

[Jackson Corner]

Nah, there was a big pitch invasion just after we moved to the Madejski I think where half the East stand ran over to the dugouts.

I don't remember that, but PANTS day was a top protest.

Palace at home at EP lost 6-1. SJM describe us as rabble?

[FiNeRaIn]

Nah, there was a big pitch invasion just after we moved to the Madejski I think where half the East stand ran over to the dugouts.

I don't remember that, but PANTS day was a top protest.

Cambridge home was pitch invasion. Think it was 0-0.

[mr_number]

Thanks to all who remembered the game.
Pants day was excellent. One of my mates never stops going on about how Keith Scott picked up his pair of pants after scoring or something like that.