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Re: Next Reading Manager

by andrew1957 » 25 Mar 2013 11:55

Assuming the objective was PL survival - every day that goes by this turns into a more and more embarrassing farce.

Why not just give it to Dolan for the rest of the season - as any other manager will now know that they are third or fourth choice. At least that will buy time and Dolan probably has as good a chance as anyone of keeping us up - be it a VERY slim one.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by winchester_royal » 25 Mar 2013 11:58

andrew1957 Assuming the objective was PL survival - every day that goes by this turns into a more and more embarrassing farce.


Why? Brian wasn't going to keep us up so we sacked him. We tried to get Poyet, he said no, so we move on to our next target. Not sure what else we could have done by now to make survival even more likely.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by andrew1957 » 25 Mar 2013 12:02

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andrew1957 Assuming the objective was PL survival - every day that goes by this turns into a more and more embarrassing farce.


Why? Brian wasn't going to keep us up so we sacked him. We tried to get Poyet, he said no, so we move on to our next target. Not sure what else we could have done by now to make survival even more likely.


Why on earth would any club sack a manager with 9 games to go unless they had a viable successor ready to take over. Wolves did the same last year and that went well. We had a better - be it very slim - chance of staying up by keeping faith with Brian.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by melonhead » 25 Mar 2013 12:04

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-i dont remember hearing any abuse.
-what about when X
-but that is tame abuse

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I didn't say there hadn't been any. But that is the weakest excuse for abuse I've seen. It might as well be "Brian dear chap, one questions whether you are doing a particularly good job at the moment, have a nice day."

No wonder people complain about our fans being pathetic middle-class plastic losers if you think "You don't know what you're doing" is a good example of a manager being abused.



matey said he didnt hear any abuse at all.
was told there was, then you butted in going off about how it was tame.



not really relevant tbf.



not only that, but its not the level of abuse, or how bad it was, it was that the crowd were so oxf*rd moronic and ungrateful that they thought our manager deserved it

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Ian Royal » 25 Mar 2013 12:05

andrew1957 Assuming the objective was PL survival - every day that goes by this turns into a more and more embarrassing farce.

Why not just give it to Dolan for the rest of the season - as any other manager will now know that they are third or fourth choice. At least that will buy time and Dolan probably has as good a chance as anyone of keeping us up - be it a VERY slim one.

Which most people realise it wasn't.

Dolan has said he doesn't want it. I reckon he could be persuaded if necessary, but only after we've gone through the process of going external and that failing.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by loyalroyal4life » 25 Mar 2013 12:10

Dolan will take it on a caretaker basis until end of season

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by sandman » 25 Mar 2013 12:14

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andrew1957 Assuming the objective was PL survival - every day that goes by this turns into a more and more embarrassing farce.

Why not just give it to Dolan for the rest of the season - as any other manager will now know that they are third or fourth choice. At least that will buy time and Dolan probably has as good a chance as anyone of keeping us up - be it a VERY slim one.

Which most people realise it wasn't.

Dolan has said he doesn't want it. I reckon he could be persuaded if necessary, but only after we've gone through the process of going external and that failing.


http://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-110313-708125.aspx

The search for a successor will start immediately and it is hoped that a new Manager will be in place as soon as possible to lead the fight against potential relegation.

As this is the one of the only communique's from the club regarding the sacking of the previous manager and the appointment of a new one the only option is to take it for it's word.
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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hoop Blah » 25 Mar 2013 12:17

You mean the club didn't openly admit that the fight is all but over?

Any manager coming in now, be it with a long term rebuilding plan or a short term 'keep us in the Premier League' aim, will be leading the fight against relegation. Doesn't mean that's the main reason behind sacking McDermott.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by winchester_royal » 25 Mar 2013 12:21

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andrew1957 Assuming the objective was PL survival - every day that goes by this turns into a more and more embarrassing farce.


Why? Brian wasn't going to keep us up so we sacked him. We tried to get Poyet, he said no, so we move on to our next target. Not sure what else we could have done by now to make survival even more likely.


Why on earth would any club sack a manager with 9 games to go unless they had a viable successor ready to take over. Wolves did the same last year and that went well. We had a better - be it very slim - chance of staying up by keeping faith with Brian.


No we didn't, the atmosphere around the place was pretty poisonous, and as Dolan showed at United he may even be an improvement on Brian. If we thought he could keep us up we'd have kept him. Obviously we didn't, therefore there was little point in keeping him. Now we need to take our time to make sure we appoint the right guy to take us forward rather than rush into a panic appointment.

If you find that 'embarrassing' well tbh that's just a little bit sad


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hoop Blah » 25 Mar 2013 12:22

andrew1957 Why on earth would any club sack a manager with 9 games to go unless they had a viable successor ready to take over.


Because that manager they're sacking had tried and failed already.

I keep hearing all this rubbish about other clubs always having managers lined up to take over when they sack a failing one. I just don't think thats the case apart from rare examples like Ramos at Spurs or more recently Southampton when they booted Adkins.

Some appointments happen pretty quickly yes, but I don't think they've usually been signed, sealed and delivered when the exiting manager leaves.

andrew1957 Wolves did the same last year and that went well. We had a better - be it very slim - chance of staying up by keeping faith with Brian.


Wolves sacked a manager on a bad run of form who'd just slipped in to the relegation zone on goal difference then appointed his assistant until the end of the season. Nothing was likely to change in that situation.

It's not what we've done. The only similarity is sacking a previously successful manager.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Esteban » 25 Mar 2013 12:28

At this stage, the players and fans need an answer. With our main targets all turning us down, we may as well appoint Dolan until the end of the season and then see where we are in the summer. There's no point appointing a permanent replacement we're not 100% happy with, just for the sake of it.

Dolan's the man to guide us through the death knell of our PL status, then he can go back to the academy.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by leon » 25 Mar 2013 12:39

Despite how anyone dresses it up it's an absolute shambles.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Wycombe Royal » 25 Mar 2013 12:45

leon Despite how anyone dresses it up it's an absolute shambles.

How exacrtly? What have the club done wrong so far in their search for a manager?


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Wycombe Royal » 25 Mar 2013 12:47

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andrew1957 Assuming the objective was PL survival - every day that goes by this turns into a more and more embarrassing farce.


Why? Brian wasn't going to keep us up so we sacked him. We tried to get Poyet, he said no, so we move on to our next target. Not sure what else we could have done by now to make survival even more likely.


Why on earth would any club sack a manager with 9 games to go unless they had a viable successor ready to take over. Wolves did the same last year and that went well. We had a better - be it very slim - chance of staying up by keeping faith with Brian.

In my opinion it is totally disrespectful to the manager getting sacked if a replacement is already lined up. But that is just my opinion. It would mean you have been "planning" to sack the manager for a couple of weeks at least and that is something that I don't think is right.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by paultheroyal » 25 Mar 2013 12:47

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leon Despite how anyone dresses it up it's an absolute shambles.

How exacrtly? What have the club done wrong so far in their search for a manager?


Not convince a number of targets that we are the best option for starters!

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by sandman » 25 Mar 2013 12:50

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leon Despite how anyone dresses it up it's an absolute shambles.

How exacrtly? What have the club done wrong so far in their search for a manager?


What have they done right?

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Cobi » 25 Mar 2013 12:50

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leon Despite how anyone dresses it up it's an absolute shambles.

How exacrtly? What have the club done wrong so far in their search for a manager?


Not convince a number of targets that we are the best option for starters!


We're hardly in an attractive position to attract big names, are we? Curbishley is looking more and more desirable by the day, as is the likes of Eddie Howe.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hoop Blah » 25 Mar 2013 12:51

Yeah you're right, it would be much better to aim lower and getting a more immediate yes just to make things happen quicker this week even if that leaves us with a manager for the next 3 years that doesn't fit the club as well.

Shambles!

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hoop Blah » 25 Mar 2013 12:55

sandman What have they done right?


They've removed a manager they didn't think could do the job they wanted him to do after giving him ample opportunity to make a success of the job he started with promotion.

They didn't just throw him out at Christmas but showed him loyalty worthy of the man, a loyalty that most other clubs probably wouldn't have afforded him.

Quietly drawn up their shortlist of prospective managers and started talking to them about the job, potentially offering it to one candidate who may have turned it down.

They're taking their time trying to find the right person all without turning it into a media circus under pressure from a soundbite generation of fans dying for the latest bit of irrelevant 'breaking news' from Sky Sports News.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by PistolPete » 25 Mar 2013 13:05

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sandman What have they done right?


They've removed a manager they didn't think could do the job they wanted him to do after giving him ample opportunity to make a success of the job he started with promotion.

They didn't just throw him out at Christmas but showed him loyalty worthy of the man, a loyalty that most other clubs probably wouldn't have afforded him.

Quietly drawn up their shortlist of prospective managers and started talking to them about the job, potentially offering it to one candidate who may have turned it down.

They're taking their time trying to find the right person all without turning it into a media circus under pressure from a soundbite generation of fans dying for the latest bit of irrelevant 'breaking news' from Sky Sports News.


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