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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Gordons Cumming » 25 Mar 2013 15:28

Good to see things are being done the "Reading Way"

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Maguire » 25 Mar 2013 15:35

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Maguire I love the fact that you (and others) take the fact that Brian wasn't sacked after 18 games as some kind of positive, as if it would have been perfectly reasonable to do so.

YES! We're so benevolent we're not ditching the guy who's brought us 2.5 seasons of success against the odds after 18 games!!11!!


Against the climate of clubs sacking managers after a lot less games, the average life span of a league manager being something like 2 seasons, and the criticism being that the sacking was a monumental shift away from 'The Reading Way' (which incidently includes sacking Porterfield, Bullivent, Burns and Rodgers under pressure of bad results) I think it's pretty much a given that it's positive that the club stood by him longer than the majority of other clubs probably would have.

You keep comparing it to the real world of industry and commerce, but in my industry an MD is booted after a bad financial year or, in general after 3 or 4 years irrespective of performance. Football is a ruthless, often immoral, business. It's based largely on results on the field which can be impacted by lots more than the managers performance. The nature of the beast is that managers get sacked but somewhere along the lines many of you seem to think that RFC operate in a paralell universe where all managers live happily ever after.


I don't "keep" comparing it to the "real world of industry and commerce" - somebody said "name another industry where somebody wouldn't get sacked in a similar position". Err, lots of them. I may have drawn a parallel with development of managers in other industries but nobody goes through a career on a completely upward curve.

Football IS a different beast but I just can't agree with the "well everyone else does it" approach. That doesn't mean it's correct. I'm not interested in what Wolves or Blackburn Rovers would do and I don't see that we deserve some kind of gold star for not sacking a successful manager 18 games into a season [which would be madness].

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by melonhead » 25 Mar 2013 15:45

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Rollerbob I'd just like to see an update from the club - giving some sort of scoop on how the search is going. Sounds as if it's not going too well, but now we don't know if the club has ANYONE in mind - other than Dolan.

So far, from the club itself - all we've received is "McDermott sacked. Hard decision. Will have new manager ASAP." - Leaving us all in the dark really. C'mon Reading FC, tell us what is going on, or what isn't going on (as the case may well be).

the club seem intent on keeping us in the dark,but will no doubt be pestering us shortly to renew our season tickets.


I for one, would rather that the club didn't keep clogging up my various news feeds with 'What Sean Morrison is having for breakfast' or 'how meaningful it was to Robson-Kanu to score for Wales' or indeed how 'Player X knows we need to fight and will keep trying till the end of the season'.

It would be nice in fact, if the club took the view that no news to report means reporting no news.

If they have no concrete managerial info to impart then much the better that they say nothing at all in my eyes, just hoping they extend that to their reporting on all the other spurious nonsense to come out of the club in order to try and get hits on the internet.



just unsubscribe from the feed if you dont like it.
believe it or not, many people like personal updates from our players, its often the only chance you get to see what their personalities are like.
and one of our players scoring the winning goal in an INTL seems to me to be pretty newsworthy

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hoop Blah » 25 Mar 2013 15:48

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Hoop Blah They've removed a manager they didn't think could do the job they wanted him to do after giving him ample opportunity to make a success of the job he started with promotion.

They didn't just throw him out at Christmas but showed him loyalty worthy of the man, a loyalty that most other clubs probably wouldn't have afforded him.



I love the fact that you (and others) take the fact that Brian wasn't sacked after 18 games as some kind of positive, as if it would have been perfectly reasonable to do so.

YES! We're so benevolent we're not ditching the guy who's brought us 2.5 seasons of success against the odds after 18 games!!11!!


This.


It's not just loyalty to a guy who's having a bit of a tough time getting results, it's loyalty to a manager who has made a right royal cock up of a season.

Don't for this is also a guy who we took a massive punt on and gave him by far the biggest opportunity of his career don't forgot. That opportunity will probably land him his dream job in the near future if he's still unemployed when the Ireland job becomes available.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by The Prisoner » 25 Mar 2013 15:50

Just a word/reminder of warning for those who fancy a flutter on this - the field is next PERMANENT manager, and that means they have to be in for 10 games for a payout. Read into that what you will, but Dolan possibly unlikely long term.

The Sherlock Holmes view is that Poyet and possibly Adkins were options, Poyet blew then out, Nige hasn't settled his compo yet and that leaves Dolan with a pretty thankless task of being given Mission Impossible followed by the bullet for not pulling it off. Honestly don't see the point of turning to anyone else given the Di Canio and Di Matteo situations.

And FWIW, tho it pains me to say, BMcD had to go if only for the turgid bilge that was on display and the inability to decipher his best 11.

This season can't end soon enough......


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Maguire » 25 Mar 2013 15:50

We took a massive punt on him or we sacked Rodgers and had nowhere else to go? I always thought the "discovery" of McDermott as a manager was hugely serendipitous on the part of RFC

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hoop Blah » 25 Mar 2013 15:58

Maguire We took a massive punt on him or we sacked Rodgers and had nowhere else to go? I always thought the "discovery" of McDermott as a manager was hugely serendipitous on the part of RFC


There was always the likes of Dolan or Gibbs internally or some out of work managers at the time to turn to as short term caretakers.

Madejski/Hammond turned to McDermott, presumably because they saw him as having the best potential to do the job at the time. That he made such a good start was very positive, obviously, but I wouldn't say it was a total accident that he got his chance and was good enough to take it with both hands.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Za Vas » 25 Mar 2013 16:15

Fordham has changed his mind on this, or rather Adkins may have.

Possible announcement later today.

Meeeeurgghh :!:

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by winchester_royal » 25 Mar 2013 16:18

Za Vas Fordham has changed his mind on this, or rather Adkins may have.

Possible announcement later today.

Meeeeurgghh :!:


I feel thoroughly embarrassed about what this club has become. It's become such a nightmare that even the best journo in the world Jonny Fordham can't get a handle on it.

I'm off to have a cry. :(


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Colin Cheeselog » 25 Mar 2013 16:20

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Hoop Blah They didn't just throw him out at Christmas but showed him loyalty worthy of the man, a loyalty that most other clubs probably wouldn't have afforded him.


In my book, loyalty lasts a bit longer than 2 months.

Loyalty would've been giving him the season. If you're going to sack someone and get in someone to do a better job, at least give him the time to do something about it.


Very much against the sacking, but...

We took Brian from unemployment and helped him to develop through the roles of scout, chief scout, reserve team manager and manager over 13 years, ultimately paying him enough money so as he will never have to work again. We helped him to gain the competencies (including professional qualifications) and reputation to secure himself another lucrative job in the future.

In the great scheme of things he wasn’t treated too badly. I wouldn’t mind being treated like that. People saying that the club treated him badly (various online articles primarily, rather than people on here), should be reminded of this, and the fact that the chairman, director of football and thousands of fans didn’t want him sacked. One lone individual’s decision doesn’t equal ‘the club’.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by HoneyRoastHoax » 25 Mar 2013 16:22

Mike Williams ‏@mikewills_sport 9m

Hearing an announcement about the next @ReadingFC manager could be made this afternoon.


Make of that what you will.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by USA_Loyal_Royal » 25 Mar 2013 16:22

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Mike Williams ‏@mikewills_sport 9m

Hearing an announcement about the next @ReadingFC manager could be made this afternoon.


Make of that what you will.

Please be Adkins!

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Royal With Cheese » 25 Mar 2013 16:23

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Mike Williams ‏@mikewills_sport 9m

Hearing an announcement about the next @ReadingFC manager could be made this afternoon.


Make of that what you will.

I'm thinking that an announcement about the next Reading FC manager could be made this afternoon.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Za Vas » 25 Mar 2013 16:24

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Za Vas Fordham has changed his mind on this, or rather Adkins may have.

Possible announcement later today.

Meeeeurgghh :!:


I feel thoroughly embarrassed about what this club has become. It's become such a nightmare that even the best journo in the world Jonny Fordham can't get a handle on it.

I'm off to have a cry. :(


Yup


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by ZacNaloen » 25 Mar 2013 16:25

Coppell was at the training ground today...



There to help convince a slightly anxious manager coming from a bad experience that the club setup (i.e DOF) is not what he fears?

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by winchester_royal » 25 Mar 2013 16:30

ZacNaloen Coppell was at the training ground today...



There to help convince a slightly anxious manager coming from a bad experience that the club setup (i.e DOF) is not what he fears?


Or there to regain his rightful place on the Iron Throne :?:

Who needs GoT eh :?:

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by ZacNaloen » 25 Mar 2013 16:31

GoT has nothing on Reading FCs management saga.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by melonhead » 25 Mar 2013 16:32

my sources say that the problems theyve all had with taking the job are mainly squeeky based

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by ZacNaloen » 25 Mar 2013 16:32

melonhead my sources say that the problems theyve all had with taking the job are mainly squeeky based



British managers in general are scared of the Director of Football title for some reason.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by winchester_royal » 25 Mar 2013 16:33

melonhead my sources say that the problems theyve all had with taking the job are mainly squeeky based


Yep I've heard this too. A real problem communicating apparently. Must be the bug that's floating around.

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