by Pepe the Horseman » 21 Jan 2019 18:05
21 Jan 2019 18:05Cheer up mate xSnowflake Royal wrote:I call 8 points with back to back defeats in two of the last three effectively opening the trap door under our feet
I'm fine with it mate. Been expecting relegation since game 6. Beats another season fighting relegation and losing to the same old teams.Pepe the Horseman wrote:Cheer up mate xSnowflake Royal wrote:I call 8 points with back to back defeats in two of the last three effectively opening the trap door under our feet
16 from 24 ?Wycombe Royal wrote:I am going for an optimistic 16 points from those games. And I'm a half glass empty type of person......
I'm not very good at predictions, but I've had a surge of optimism.Lower West wrote:16 from 24 ?Wycombe Royal wrote:I am going for an optimistic 16 points from those games. And I'm a half glass empty type of person......
When we've achieved 5 out of the last 24. That's a turn round in form. Given the lack of goals as well.
Bolton is by no means a given. Having watched some of the game last night they did cause WBA a few problems.Zip wrote:When we play Bolton next week it will be their third game in eight days whilst we should be fresh. There can be no excuses. We need to start fast in that game. Again no excuses. They should be raring to go.
Too much emphasis is being placed on the next eight games. There will still be plenty of points to play for thereafter. I suspect we will have a mixed bag of results and pick up around 11/12 points which might just about see us edge ahead of Rotherham.
They didn't, they were abysmal. Hi DD/Kes btw.Duffy wrote:Bolton is by no means a given. Having watched some of the game last night they did cause WBA a few problems.Zip wrote:When we play Bolton next week it will be their third game in eight days whilst we should be fresh. There can be no excuses. We need to start fast in that game. Again no excuses. They should be raring to go.
Too much emphasis is being placed on the next eight games. There will still be plenty of points to play for thereafter. I suspect we will have a mixed bag of results and pick up around 11/12 points which might just about see us edge ahead of Rotherham.
I saw Gary O'Neil come close and they had several other chances. What you also must remember is WBA are a better side than us. Not sure what the last part of your response means.Old Man Andrews wrote:They didn't, they were abysmal. Hi DD/Kes btw.Duffy wrote:Bolton is by no means a given. Having watched some of the game last night they did cause WBA a few problems.Zip wrote:When we play Bolton next week it will be their third game in eight days whilst we should be fresh. There can be no excuses. We need to start fast in that game. Again no excuses. They should be raring to go.
Too much emphasis is being placed on the next eight games. There will still be plenty of points to play for thereafter. I suspect we will have a mixed bag of results and pick up around 11/12 points which might just about see us edge ahead of Rotherham.
What you must remember is if their most potent option is Gary O'Neil then they are diabolical. And they are. Their defending of set pieces isn't good enough, but I think crucially they were undone by a through ball for the 2nd goal which seems to be one of our strengths. Baker and Ejaria will rip them to shreds.Duffy wrote:I saw Gary O'Neil come close and they had several other chances. What you also must remember is WBA are a better side than us. Not sure what the last part of your response means.Old Man Andrews wrote:They didn't, they were abysmal. Hi DD/Kes btw.Duffy wrote:
Bolton is by no means a given. Having watched some of the game last night they did cause WBA a few problems.
Let's hope so. I'm not so confident. I've not seen us rip anyone to shreds in a long time. You could argue Forest at home, but they did go down to 9 men....John Smith wrote:What you must remember is if their most potent option is Gary O'Neil then they are diabolical. And they are. Their defending of set pieces isn't good enough, but I think crucially they were undone by a through ball for the 2nd goal which seems to be one of our strengths. Baker and Ejaria will rip them to shreds.Duffy wrote:I saw Gary O'Neil come close and they had several other chances. What you also must remember is WBA are a better side than us. Not sure what the last part of your response means.Old Man Andrews wrote:
They didn't, they were abysmal. Hi DD/Kes btw.
dduffyOld Man Andrews wrote:They didn't, they were abysmal. Hi DD/Kes btw.Duffy wrote:Bolton is by no means a given. Having watched some of the game last night they did cause WBA a few problems.Zip wrote:When we play Bolton next week it will be their third game in eight days whilst we should be fresh. There can be no excuses. We need to start fast in that game. Again no excuses. They should be raring to go.
Too much emphasis is being placed on the next eight games. There will still be plenty of points to play for thereafter. I suspect we will have a mixed bag of results and pick up around 11/12 points which might just about see us edge ahead of Rotherham.
First, our opening six games partly distorts that picture. Leaving those aside it's 21 from 22, and that is after a tough runDuffy wrote:We have only amassed 23 points from 28 games this season. That'll be some turnaround to get 19 points from only 8 games.
Snowball, as usual getting carried away.Snowball wrote:First, our opening six games partly distorts that picture. Leaving those aside it's 21 from 22, and that is after a tough runDuffy wrote:We have only amassed 23 points from 28 games this season. That'll be some turnaround to get 19 points from only 8 games.
1 New manager making us play better.
Evidence, drawing 0-0 at QPR, good result by any standards, competing well at Manchester United, on the best win-run of any new Utd manager in history, beaten only by a VAR penalty and a goal from a £70 Million striker. Beating Norwich 2-0 and playing them off the park, then competing at Derby (who had just beaten Premiership Saints and are sixth in the table) and dominating them second-half.
2 Finding a place for Aluko and transforming his form - almost a new signing.
3 Signing Ovie Ejaria who is already very good indeed. Probably Baker, also
4 Emergence of Rinhomota - a future Prem player if ever I saw one
5 Settling on a Number 1 goalkeeper (for now). Maybe not good enough, but better than uncertainty.
6 Removing dead weight, bad eggs from the squad. Increased morale
7 Probable signing of a known QUALITY striker. (Had we had one at Derby we would have got at least a point).
8 Manager's effect only just beginning to show and this should become more evident as we progress, resulting in wins where we might have drawn, draws where we might have lost. The extra points will increase confidence and mean even more points
You well know that Norwich was a mis-type for Notts Forest, and a gentleman might have pointed out the error.Victor Meldrew wrote:Snowball, as usual getting carried away.Snowball wrote:First, our opening six games partly distorts that picture. Leaving those aside it's 21 from 22, and that is after a tough runDuffy wrote:We have only amassed 23 points from 28 games this season. That'll be some turnaround to get 19 points from only 8 games.
1 New manager making us play better.
Evidence, drawing 0-0 at QPR, good result by any standards, competing well at Manchester United, on the best win-run of any new Utd manager in history, beaten only by a VAR penalty and a goal from a £70 Million striker. Beating Norwich 2-0 and playing them off the park, then competing at Derby (who had just beaten Premiership Saints and are sixth in the table) and dominating them second-half.
2 Finding a place for Aluko and transforming his form - almost a new signing.
3 Signing Ovie Ejaria who is already very good indeed. Probably Baker, also
4 Emergence of Rinhomota - a future Prem player if ever I saw one
5 Settling on a Number 1 goalkeeper (for now). Maybe not good enough, but better than uncertainty.
6 Removing dead weight, bad eggs from the squad. Increased morale
7 Probable signing of a known QUALITY striker. (Had we had one at Derby we would have got at least a point).
8 Manager's effect only just beginning to show and this should become more evident as we progress, resulting in wins where we might have drawn, draws where we might have lost. The extra points will increase confidence and mean even more points
When did we beat Norwich under the new manager?
It was Man Utd's Reserves that we played-it's the first team that has been winning.
You somehow forgot, or chose to ignore, the debacle v Swansea.
No wonder people don't take you seriously.
Gomes has picked up 4 points from a possible 18. I like to look at the hard facts, not what might or might not happen. I'd love it if we could really turn this around, but despite showing signs of promise in some games, I really wouldn't get carried away.Snowball wrote:First, our opening six games partly distorts that picture. Leaving those aside it's 21 from 22, and that is after a tough runDuffy wrote:We have only amassed 23 points from 28 games this season. That'll be some turnaround to get 19 points from only 8 games.
1 New manager making us play better.
Evidence, drawing 0-0 at QPR, good result by any standards, competing well at Manchester United, on the best win-run of any new Utd manager in history, beaten only by a VAR penalty and a goal from a £70 Million striker. Beating Notts Forest 2-0 and playing them off the park, then competing at Derby (who had just beaten Premiership Saints and are sixth in the table) and dominating them second-half.
2 Finding a place for Aluko and transforming his form - almost a new signing.
3 Signing Ovie Ejaria who is already very good indeed. Probably Baker, also
4 Emergence of Rinhomota - a future Prem player if ever I saw one
5 Settling on a Number 1 goalkeeper (for now). Maybe not good enough, but better than uncertainty.
6 Removing dead weight, bad eggs from the squad. Increased morale
7 Probable signing of a known QUALITY striker. (Had we had one at Derby we would have got at least a point).
8 Manager's effect only just beginning to show and this should become more evident as we progress, resulting in wins where we might have drawn, draws where we might have lost. The extra points will increase confidence and mean even more points
It means we didn't just get off the boat.Duffy wrote:I saw Gary O'Neil come close and they had several other chances. What you also must remember is WBA are a better side than us. Not sure what the last part of your response means.Old Man Andrews wrote:They didn't, they were abysmal. Hi DD/Kes btw.Duffy wrote: Bolton is by no means a given. Having watched some of the game last night they did cause WBA a few problems.
Define 'clear of relegation'?Snowball wrote:You well know that Norwich was a mis-type for Notts Forest, and a gentleman might have pointed out the error.Victor Meldrew wrote:Snowball, as usual getting carried away.Snowball wrote:
First, our opening six games partly distorts that picture. Leaving those aside it's 21 from 22, and that is after a tough run
1 New manager making us play better.
Evidence, drawing 0-0 at QPR, good result by any standards, competing well at Manchester United, on the best win-run of any new Utd manager in history, beaten only by a VAR penalty and a goal from a £70 Million striker. Beating Norwich 2-0 and playing them off the park, then competing at Derby (who had just beaten Premiership Saints and are sixth in the table) and dominating them second-half.
2 Finding a place for Aluko and transforming his form - almost a new signing.
3 Signing Ovie Ejaria who is already very good indeed. Probably Baker, also
4 Emergence of Rinhomota - a future Prem player if ever I saw one
5 Settling on a Number 1 goalkeeper (for now). Maybe not good enough, but better than uncertainty.
6 Removing dead weight, bad eggs from the squad. Increased morale
7 Probable signing of a known QUALITY striker. (Had we had one at Derby we would have got at least a point).
8 Manager's effect only just beginning to show and this should become more evident as we progress, resulting in wins where we might have drawn, draws where we might have lost. The extra points will increase confidence and mean even more points
When did we beat Norwich under the new manager?
It was Man Utd's Reserves that we played-it's the first team that has been winning.
You somehow forgot, or chose to ignore, the debacle v Swansea.
No wonder people don't take you seriously.
I didn't ignore the Swansea game. It was irrelevant. I was talking about evidence of improvement
As for the Swansea game, I just see it as "one of those games"
Reading had more possession, more shots, the same number of shots on target (5),
as Swansea but, like at Old Trafford, our weakness in front of goal, and the other side's
clinical finishing, is what made the difference.
We appear to have got in two very good midfielders, got Aluko playing again,
discovered Rinomhota, settled on a keeper for now, and are just about to get a striker
All in all that is brilliant and I'm happy to have a hefty side bet with you that Reading will be
clear of relegation by season's end. How much £100? £500?
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