Trust Steve

[brendywendy]

I'm depresssed at the moment anyway.

Me too.

I was always brought up to believe that you should always grasp every opportunity and give it your best shot. If you give 100% and fail, at least you can look at yourself and feel proud for giving it a go.

I wish we'd been brave enough to give the Premiership 100%.......

gay gay gay

its three games in, and having seen all three, id say weve given 100% in every game

So would Oxford United.

Somehow, just somehow, I don't think Avon Royal was referring to the players' efforts on the pitch.

somehow just somehow i believe that the approach you are arguing for is reckless to the point of stupidity, and not brave at all

[Royal Lady]

but so much better than saying GAY GAY GAY in response to a post, don't you think?

[The Quiet Man]

Would this be the same Steve Coppell that spent three months without a win in the season previous to being champions and couldn't understand why?

Can we look forward to 90 minutes of ineffective hoof to Doyle and Lita like the Wigan game in the future?

Will we realise once teams man mark Harper and The Sulky One that we have no plan B?

Will we be able to consistently take the one or two chances we create in games and keep clean sheets against quality players?

Only time will tell whether a team that failed to beat either Sheff utd away or watford home or away last season will do differently this year?

I'm sure Mr coppell will be telling us that in terms of wages we are second bottom in this league and therefore we will be overachieving if we stay up.

And of course JM will say that the manager has had the money it is up to him how he spends it or not.

Bring it on!

[brendywendy]

no




it is gay gay gay for everyone to be so downright gloomy after 3 matches
and i dont remember a season where we have bought better players in the window
they are all pretty good buys for reading and i personally think we have shown enough in the three games to see us up come next year

i would have loved to sign some world class players, which team wouldnt
but i really didnt see it happening

and i do think that if we had payed 5 million for bikey and matte every one would be happy

[Royal Lady]

well you're entitled to your opinions. However, you appeared to get hold of the wrong end of the stick and Platypuss corrected you. Hey ho.

[brendywendy]

[quote="The Quiet Man"]Would this be the same Steve Coppell that spent three months without a win in the season previous to being champions and couldn't understand why?

Can we look forward to 90 minutes of ineffective hoof to Doyle and Lita like the Wigan game in the future?


i believe it was the effective marking of seol and convey that made the wigan game so poor for us, once teams do that our strikers will drift out of the game without kitson
that left the two midfield lads struggling to get on the ball and ensureed we had to go longball
but surely you saw enough in the boro and villa games to see us safe
just citing the wigan game is a little unfair

[Woodcote Royal]

Oh, and desperately labelling anyone who advances a position you disagree with as "idiots" doesn't actually augment your argument.

Perhaps this was a reference to those who perceive the clubs' current stance to be one of complacency..................in which case, I couldn't agree more.

I don't see a club of this size that makes no less than two £5m bids as complacent in any way, and anyone who thinks that either Steve Coppell or JM would entertain making up such bids is indeed an idiot of the first degree.....................which is probably why they feel so at home on HNA? these days.

Nice thread, Mr I, but totally wasted on the deaf ears of w@nkers.

Time to spend my weekend in better company....................

[brendywendy]

he said the club wasnt giving 100% to stay up
when what he meant the club hadnt spent £1000000

and do you really think that JM, SC, NH etc are giving anything less than 100%

i for one never thought id ever see a 5 million bid by reading for anyone, even this season, and am grateful that we at least attempted it
especially when our previous highest buy was lita

but hey ho

[Royal Lady]

he said the club wasnt giving 100% to stay up
when what he meant the club hadnt spent £1000000

and do you really think that JM, SC, NH etc are giving anything less than 100%

i for one never thought id ever see a 5 million bid by reading for anyone, even this season, and am grateful that we at least attempted it
especially when our previous highest buy was lita

but hey ho

I'm sorry - but he didn't mention millions of pounds he said about the club giving 100%. I believe Platypuss was correct and you were wrong. Shut that door!

[brendywendy]

and what i am saying is that if we had spent 10000000 he would be completely happy with the effort the club is giving

[brendywendy]

oops i left a zero off the first big number

[shadesrwrf]

:roll:

1. Schards is younger than me.

2. My point was and still is, that if we get relegated there will be an awful lot of people, I believe, for whom this season will be the ONLY season they see us in the Premiership.

Ah, again my sincere apologies. I hadn't realised that he, like myself, is a toy boy. Well, as we often do, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this matter.

[The Quiet Man]

Brendy I sincerely hope we meet more teams whose central defenders are are sh*te as Boro (although strangely they seem to have replaced both centre backs since then ).

What happened at Villa is what may well happen a few times to us this season we make an unforced defensive error (Ingimarrsson misses a simple header and their forward is goal side of Sonko) get punished - we create very little after a very good first 10 minutes - Villa create one chance and take it second half and game over.

Wigan was more worrying as they looked pretty poor but should have 3 or 4 to 1. We looked one size smaller and it showed that if the wingers don't get in the game we are f*cked.

I believe in JM selling the club about as much as Blair's retirement date but it showed how competitive he really wants to be in this division (contrast to Whelan for instance) - so why shaft the fans over season ticket prices. I felt we needed probably one signature player of prem quality to show to fans and players we mean business instead we have got a top six championship side and will do a Norwich or Palace OK at home sh*t away and will go down.

Still won't stop me enjoying the greed fest and fear that is prem football.

[brendywendy]

ok, boro were daft,
but i disagree aboutthe villa game, we were the better team before the snding of after 20 mins

and after that i thought we still looked at least equal for long periods

wigan was rubbish

and i agree totally about our stature as a team

i sat in the away end at villa thinking exactly the same


"arent they all big", our lads looked like boys next to athletes

..............

oh bugger the gloom mongers have infected me with the gloom, now im depressed and think we are well and truly f*cked
shit season, coppell out, sack the board

arse

[M4 Junction 11]

STAND UP ... FOR STEVE COPPELL!!

[Avon Royal]

he said the club wasnt giving 100% to stay up
when what he meant the club hadnt spent £1000000

Incorrect.

and what i am saying is that if we had spent 10000000 he would be completely happy with the effort the club is giving

Swing and a miss.

However, you appeared to get hold of the wrong end of the stick and Platypuss corrected you. Hey ho.

Spot on!

Brendy - just let it go. I apologise if my original post wasn't clear enough for you (or should that be 4u?), but most other people seem to have understood the point now - I don't really have to keep on making it simply for you to keep on missing it.

[Dennis the Butler]

Protons ... now there's a car I would fancy having ... specially one of those Lotus jobs ... these Malaysian chappies really know what they're doing when it comes to motors

Perhaps Mr Proton would like to invest in a football club too ...

[Ian Royal]

Not necessarily. you can have a team packed full of talent, but if the wrong players get injured you can go down. Look at Birmingham. What about West Ham. They had a pretty good team when they were relegated.

If you think that all of Sidwell, Kitson, Lita, Doyle, Harper, Shorey, Seol and Sonko amongst others will stay should we get relegated then I think you're living in a dream world.

You can take that arguement to the Nth degree if you want and include Chelsea and Manchester United in the equation. If enough of their players got injured they would surely go down and none of them would want to play in the Championship either. I am being flippant I should add but my point is valid to a degree. Where do you draw the line?

I think your point was that in your opinion we haven't strengthend the squad enough to cope with the inevitable injuries we will incur over the course of the season. But we're not dealing with a full season in that respect. In January the transfer window reopens and we have the opportunity of adding to a squad that's shown it's true colours by that stage.

As we stand at the moment we have a virtually fully-fit squad to select from (one that we both believe are good enough in their own right to stay in the Premiership) and although their will undoubtedly be causualities on the way to January it's the scale of the injuries we will pick up that's the great unknown.

This begs other questions of course. Do we play a weakened team in the Carling cup to minimise the risk of injuries to key players? Do we rest key players from games in the league where we in all likelyhood we don't have a prayer of winning; Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd?. Unpalatable thoughts maybe but perhaps we need to save our powder for the Fulham's and Bolton's of this world.

You misunderstand me.

I'm not saying we will go down, or we haven't done enough. I'm saying should we go down, then we will not keep all of the players, so we cannot say we will be good enough to romp away with the championship again.

[Platypuss]

I'm depresssed at the moment anyway.

Me too.

I was always brought up to believe that you should always grasp every opportunity and give it your best shot. If you give 100% and fail, at least you can look at yourself and feel proud for giving it a go.

I wish we'd been brave enough to give the Premiership 100%.......

gay gay gay

its three games in, and having seen all three, id say weve given 100% in every game

So would Oxford United.

Somehow, just somehow, I don't think Avon Royal was referring to the players' efforts on the pitch.

somehow just somehow i believe that the approach you are arguing for is reckless to the point of stupidity, and not brave at all

What approach have I argued for then, and why would it be reckless?

Please show all your working.

[Royal Lady]