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Re: Actim Index

by CMRoyal » 16 Jan 2009 10:51

rabidbee People are forgetting how good he was September to November. His dip in form means that he was merely a "good" player in December.


Of the games I've seen I thought he had poor games against Saints and QPR; was pretty average against Plymouth, Palace, Doncaster, Coventry and Blackpool; was excellent against Swansea, Brum and Watford; and was good in all the rest.

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Re: Actim Index

by Ian Royal » 16 Jan 2009 12:17

Well for me the 5 best/most important players we have (playing regularly) are:

Doyle
SHunt
Harper
Hahnemann
Bikey


Ooo look aren't they nicely balanced across the team. Striker, winger, central midfielder, defender, 'keeper. :D

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Re: Actim Index

by Franchise FC » 16 Jan 2009 14:06

Ian Royal Well for me the 5 best/most important players we have (playing regularly) are:

Doyle
SHunt
Harper
Hahnemann
Bikey


Ooo look aren't they nicely balanced across the team. Striker, winger, central midfielder, defender, 'keeper. :D



They're more unabalanced than you think. Two of them aren't even playing.

Although ..... one each end of the bench could leave them pretty well balanced.

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Re: Actim Index

by JC » 16 Jan 2009 15:16

If you look at the official stats for assists then SHunt has 16 so far this season, next is Kightly with 12 then Kebe with 8.
Given he has 6 league goals as well it is not surprising to me he is up there. I don't really care how successful his pass rate might be or accuracy of crosses the fact is that he has directly contributed to 22 of our 57 league goals.

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Re: Actim Index

by Hahnemann's Hairdresser » 16 Jan 2009 16:25

JC If you look at the official stats for assists then SHunt has 16 so far this season, next is Kightly with 12 then Kebe with 8.
Given he has 6 league goals as well it is not surprising to me he is up there. I don't really care how successful his pass rate might be or accuracy of crosses the fact is that he has directly contributed to 22 of our 57 league goals.


I would be interested to see what that stat is if you take away his assists from set pieces. We have scored a hell of alot of goals from corners and free kicks, this is probably giving Hunt a massive boost in the actim charts (not to mention the fact that 4 of his 6 goals were penalties), I don't think he'd still be second if we still had Shorey in the team.

Also, there is a massive gulf in quality between Hunt's crossing from open play and the quality of his dead balls. From open play, Hunt is verging on woeful, however the quality of his delivery from a dead ball situation is head and shoulders above anyone else in the division. I'd say that at times his set pieces are keeping him in the team, but with the lack of any real competition that just isn't true.


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Re: Actim Index

by JC » 16 Jan 2009 16:32

My recollection is that Shorey was quite good at free kicks, but I can rarely recall our scoring from corners he took.
I would rather have those 22 goals than lose Hunt.

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Re: Actim Index

by Hahnemann's Hairdresser » 16 Jan 2009 16:37

JC My recollection is that Shorey was quite good at free kicks, but I can rarely recall our scoring from corners he took.
I would rather have those 22 goals than lose Hunt.


Maybe so, although it doesn't change the fact that he did take the majority of our corners ahead of Hunt.

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Re: Actim Index

by rabidbee » 16 Jan 2009 16:42

Hahnemann's Hairdresser I would be interested to see what that stat is if you take away his assists from set pieces. We have scored a hell of alot of goals from corners and free kicks, this is probably giving Hunt a massive boost in the actim charts (not to mention the fact that 4 of his 6 goals were penalties), I don't think he'd still be second if we still had Shorey in the team.


I doubt he'd be second if we had Christiano Ronaldo and Fernando Torres in the team. But the point remains that he's set up almost half of the goals scored by the highest-scoring team in the division. If most of those assists come from free-kicks, that's because he's obviously the best set-piece taker in the club. It's like saying that penalties don't count.

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Re: Actim Index

by Sarah Star » 16 Jan 2009 16:57

It doesn't mean that someone else couldn't have been as good though.


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Re: Actim Index

by Ian Royal » 16 Jan 2009 18:31

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Ian Royal Well for me the 5 best/most important players we have (playing regularly) are:

Doyle
SHunt
Harper
Hahnemann
Bikey


Ooo look aren't they nicely balanced across the team. Striker, winger, central midfielder, defender, 'keeper. :D



They're more unabalanced than you think. Two of them aren't even playing.

Although ..... one each end of the bench could leave them pretty well balanced.


Didn't say they were currently playing, and I don't think they should necessarily come straight back into the line up either.

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Re: Actim Index

by Ian Royal » 16 Jan 2009 18:35

Sarah Star It doesn't mean that someone else couldn't have been as good though.


No, but previous seasons do. Historically we've very rarely scored from corners. In fact I think the number of goals scored by any team from a corner is usually below 10 in a season. Often a lot below. Can't remember where I've picked that up from though.

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Re: Actim Index

by Arnie_Pie » 16 Jan 2009 20:11

Ideal
Cookie Can you add the link please?


Ever thought about trying google before asking others?
Anyhow, here it is.
http://actimindex.wordpress.com/latest-index-championship/


Well if this is up to date we have the best midfielder, best striker and best defender.

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Re: Actim Index

by Factfinder » 16 Jan 2009 20:54

No system is perfect, Reading and Wolves dominate the top ten, But Cardiff a really good team only has two players in the top fifty and you've got to go down as far as 78th to see their third player. (Kevin McNaughton)

Meanwhile James Harper weighs in at No.98 with Ben Watson at No.99, both quality players in my opinion.


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Re: Actim Index

by Sarah Star » 17 Jan 2009 09:01

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Sarah Star It doesn't mean that someone else couldn't have been as good though.


No, but previous seasons do. Historically we've very rarely scored from corners. In fact I think the number of goals scored by any team from a corner is usually below 10 in a season. Often a lot below. Can't remember where I've picked that up from though.

I read something about this last night, that Reading rely a lot on their set-pieces and work on them in training, so I'm guessing that they could get someone else to actually take the free-kicks/corners etc and adapt to them, but heck, what do I know? What I read was written over a year ago.

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Re: Actim Index

by westendgirl » 17 Jan 2009 12:20

Factfinder No system is perfect, Reading and Wolves dominate the top ten, But Cardiff a really good team only has two players in the top fifty and you've got to go down as far as 78th to see their third player. (Kevin McNaughton)

Meanwhile James Harper weighs in at No.98 with Ben Watson at No.99, both quality players in my opinion.


As mentioned on the previous page it is a cumulative index so the settled teams like Reading and Wolves will have an advantage. No idea how settled the Cardiff team is but certainly Harps has not played 100% of games like Doyler and SHunt.

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Actim Stats

by true blue 4 ever » 27 Jan 2009 11:53

http://actimindex.wordpress.com/latest- ... mpionship/

Good to see us occupying 1st and 2nd place...can't say I 'm surprised at Harper in 96th!!!!

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Re: Actim Stats

by cmonurz » 27 Jan 2009 12:02

Cue the usual 'Hunt is sh*t so the stats lie' stuff....

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