Scunthorpe - back from the lame

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by rob the royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:05

shaka's shorts I am very frustrated - actually, I thought they pplayed OK. Sig, McAnuff, Tabb were very good. Cisse, Marek, HRK, Pearce were good. Cummings was a lot better than he was before he was dropped. Kebe was rubbish as always and Inga is too slow now. WE just need a striker and to replace Inga for Mills. We must have had 20 good chances. If we sell all of our strikers as we have - what else can we expect


Cummings wasn't too bad to be fair.

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by rhroyal » 12 Dec 2009 19:06

Every season teams go down who often "deserve more" in individual matches. I don't want that to be us this season. People point at performances as an encouragement. Are they? If you don't win when you're second best; okay. If you don't win and you're the better team; this can't happen regularly. Well, according to Rodgers and our clubs, it is happening regularly. If we can't win when we're the better team, when can we win?

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by Tutti Frutti » 12 Dec 2009 19:07

Should have won this. Squad stretched, and did okay, but where people got frustrated was that the problem that led to their equaliser - their progressive domination of the middle of the park in the second half - was apparent for 25 minutes before they scored. At points Ivar was having to physically push Cisse back into midfield.

Rodgers choice? Do nothing. Wrong choice, every time.

I'm behind BR - don't think any manager would have done especially well with the hand of cards he's been dealt - but today there were severe managerial problems with our performance, and that has to be laid at his door.

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by T.R.O.L.I. » 12 Dec 2009 19:07

Good post, rhroyal.

Still, at leat we'll ave some different grounds to vsit next season...

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by Ian Royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:08

rhroyal Every season teams go down who often "deserve more" in individual matches. I don't want that to be us this season. People point at performances as an encouragement. Are they? If you don't win when you're second best; okay. If you don't win and you're the better team; this can't happen regularly. Well, according to Rodgers and our clubs, it is happening regularly. If we can't win when we're the better team, when can we win?


The other problem we have is only two players are really scoring / providing. What happens if Rasiak, Sig or McAnuff get injured? Or heaven forbid two or even three of them are unavailable. Suddenly we're about as likely to score as the Elephant Man.


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by handbags_harris » 12 Dec 2009 19:09

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handbags_harris Teams that dominate and create the number of untaken chances that we did today, go down.

That is all.


Whereas teams that are shit all game, and don't create any chances don't? :?


Our league position does not li, we are in a relegation scrap. 21 games in and a clear pattern has been formed that HAS to be addressed in January. We either dominate and drop points because our chance conversion rate is abysmal, or we play utter mince and get well beaten. I am by no means an STG, and I am far from being an RTG, but I am getting so fed up of watching us dominate against teams like Scunny and drop points. I am also getting fed up of watching the at times ponderous dross that was served up today.

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by FiNeRaIn » 12 Dec 2009 19:10

So its the Xmas party for the team tonight. Personally, I'd prefer them to drive down to ashton gate and start attacking the City goal now. Maybe we can get our equaliser in before next saturday?
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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by rob the royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:10

rhroyal Every season teams go down who often "deserve more" in individual matches. I don't want that to be us this season. People point at performances as an encouragement. Are they? If you don't win when you're second best; okay. If you don't win and you're the better team; this can't happen regularly. Well, according to Rodgers and our clubs, it is happening regularly. If we can't win when we're the better team, when can we win?


And if you are that bad, then you need to come out fighting. I just don't see that we're doing that. W_Royal I know we created some good chances today but if we'd come out and treated this like a massive bottom of the table survival clash instead of 'just another game against some dump championship newbees when I'd rather be playing liverpool' then we might have come out the other end of it better off.

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by winchester_royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:12

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handbags_harris Teams that dominate and create the number of untaken chances that we did today, go down.

That is all.


Whereas teams that are shit all game, and don't create any chances don't? :?


Our league position does not li, we are in a relegation scrap. 21 games in and a clear pattern has been formed that HAS to be addressed in January. We either dominate and drop points because our chance conversion rate is abysmal, or we play utter mince and get well beaten. I am by no means an STG, and I am far from being an RTG, but I am getting so fed up of watching us dominate against teams like Scunny and drop points. I am also getting fed up of watching the at times ponderous dross that was served up today.


Fair point, but I don't subscribe to the view that creating chances, admittedly missed chances, is a bad thing.


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by Ian Royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:14

Well it ain't a oxf*rd good thing is it!

And it's not like it's a one off. Same problem for months. What exactly has Rodgers done to counter it? That's right, let our numbers upfront slowly errode until we've got one unfit poacher as our only option.

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by winchester_royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:15

Ian Royal Well it ain't a oxf*rd good thing is it!

And it's not like it's a one off. Same problem for months. What exactly has Rodgers done to counter it? That's right, let our numbers upfront slowly errode until we've got one unfit poacher as our only option.


Actually, I consider the fact that we created 6 or 7 excellent opportunities a very good thing.

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by rhroyal » 12 Dec 2009 19:15

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winchester_royal Teams that dominate and create the number of untaken chances that we did today, go down.

That is all.


Whereas teams that are shit all game, and don't create any chances don't? :?



Fair point, but I don't subscribe to the view that creating chances, admittedly missed chances, is a bad thing.
Failing to convert chances, and consequently dropping points, week on week is a BIG concern. Good that we're creating them, but creating chances doesn't keep you up. Converting them does, as well as shutting people out at the other end.

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by handbags_harris » 12 Dec 2009 19:16

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handbags_harris Our league position does not li, we are in a relegation scrap. 21 games in and a clear pattern has been formed that HAS to be addressed in January. We either dominate and drop points because our chance conversion rate is abysmal, or we play utter mince and get well beaten. I am by no means an STG, and I am far from being an RTG, but I am getting so fed up of watching us dominate against teams like Scunny and drop points. I am also getting fed up of watching the at times ponderous dross that was served up today.


Fair point, but I don't subscribe to the view that creating chances, admittedly missed chances, is a bad thing.


I'm not sure how you have deduced that I think creating chances is a bad thing. It's the missing of those created chances that is the bad thing! But then surely that is obvious to everyone?


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by winchester_royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:17

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handbags_harris Our league position does not li, we are in a relegation scrap. 21 games in and a clear pattern has been formed that HAS to be addressed in January. We either dominate and drop points because our chance conversion rate is abysmal, or we play utter mince and get well beaten. I am by no means an STG, and I am far from being an RTG, but I am getting so fed up of watching us dominate against teams like Scunny and drop points. I am also getting fed up of watching the at times ponderous dross that was served up today.


Fair point, but I don't subscribe to the view that creating chances, admittedly missed chances, is a bad thing.


I'm not sure how you have deduced that I think creating chances is a bad thing. It's the missing of those created chances that is the bad thing! But then surely that is obvious to everyone?


I'm manipulating your language.

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by Chaney » 12 Dec 2009 19:17

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Biggest LOL of the day was kebe coming on, true to form absolutely embarrassing and the groans said it all. Robson-kanu played well, poor decision from rodgers.


you really are a twat of the highest order, are you blind or just plain stupid?...Kebe did more in 10 minutes that HRK did in 80..didn`t you see the dangerous crosses he got in and the run and lay back that was blazed over the bar from 10 yards out?

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by Ian Royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:17

And I consider the fact that our two top scorers have converted 2 of about 15 great chances in the last 4 games a pretty abysmal thing.

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by winchester_royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:18

Ian Royal And I consider the fact that our two top scorers have converted 2 of about 15 great chances in the last 4 games a pretty abysmal thing.


That can quite easily be addressed though.

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by rfcjoe » 12 Dec 2009 19:18

M8! Kebe is fookin shite! You are showing your clear lack of football knowledge is you stand up that that atrocious excuse of a footballer.

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by Ian Royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:18

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handbags_harris Fair point, but I don't subscribe to the view that creating chances, admittedly missed chances, is a bad thing.


I'm not sure how you have deduced that I think creating chances is a bad thing. It's the missing of those created chances that is the bad thing! But then surely that is obvious to everyone?


I'm manipulating your language.[/quote]
Which is because it's the only thing you have to suggest we aren't totally up shit creek. twisting language won't keep us up.

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Re: Scunthorpe - back from the lame

by Ian Royal » 12 Dec 2009 19:19

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Ian Royal And I consider the fact that our two top scorers have converted 2 of about 15 great chances in the last 4 games a pretty abysmal thing.


That can quite easily be addressed though.


Yes it could. And it bloody well should have been at some point in the last 6 months. Who do we have to blame that it hasn't been? I can't possibly think.... :roll:

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