by MouldyRoyal » 21 May 2025 16:30
by Sutekh » 21 May 2025 16:35
MouldyRoyal It's all well and good saying BBC Berks should ask the tough questions, but we have seen with other clubs how quickly they can get banned from the club by overzealous owners and club management.
by Orion1871 » 21 May 2025 18:02
StrandedRoyal RotherSnowflake Royal That's not a contradiction, it's an acknowledgement there's more than one approach to bringing through young players....
That's certainly how my ears received what he said.
Not sure this is entirely accurate but my recollection is that he effectively said there are plenty of good young players cast off by other clubs and there is some good value to be had out there. Buy for £300k, sell for a couple of million (as he said they did at Wycombe) and it would be silly not to be on the look out for those as well as what is coming through the Academy, as they may well be more ready for 1st Team football.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see more deals such as the Savage/Elliott deals whereby we go to a Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool type of club and say, we'll take player X off your hands for nothing now on a 3 or 4 year deal. He'll be in or near to the first team immediately and if we sell him at any point during his time with us, you get 50 or 60% of any fee (less any agreed training costs etc).
May block some players coming out of our Academy but if the player we bring in is better at the same age, it would make sense.
by morganb » 21 May 2025 18:39
Orion1871StrandedRoyal Rother
That's certainly how my ears received what he said.
Not sure this is entirely accurate but my recollection is that he effectively said there are plenty of good young players cast off by other clubs and there is some good value to be had out there. Buy for £300k, sell for a couple of million (as he said they did at Wycombe) and it would be silly not to be on the look out for those as well as what is coming through the Academy, as they may well be more ready for 1st Team football.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see more deals such as the Savage/Elliott deals whereby we go to a Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool type of club and say, we'll take player X off your hands for nothing now on a 3 or 4 year deal. He'll be in or near to the first team immediately and if we sell him at any point during his time with us, you get 50 or 60% of any fee (less any agreed training costs etc).
May block some players coming out of our Academy but if the player we bring in is better at the same age, it would make sense.
Those deals had a lot to do with the role Eddie Niedzwiecki had at the club. Now he's gone there may not be the opportunity to make that type of transfer.
by blueroyals » 21 May 2025 19:03
by Sutekh » 21 May 2025 19:04
morganbOrion1871Stranded
It wouldn't surprise me if we see more deals such as the Savage/Elliott deals whereby we go to a Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool type of club and say, we'll take player X off your hands for nothing now on a 3 or 4 year deal. He'll be in or near to the first team immediately and if we sell him at any point during his time with us, you get 50 or 60% of any fee (less any agreed training costs etc).
May block some players coming out of our Academy but if the player we bring in is better at the same age, it would make sense.
Those deals had a lot to do with the role Eddie Niedzwiecki had at the club. Now he's gone there may not be the opportunity to make that type of transfer.
So, what's Eddie doing at the moment? Perhaps if we want this kind of deal and he was instrumental to them perhaps we bring him back again?
by Sutekh » 21 May 2025 19:09
blueroyals I don’t mind going into bat in defence of our Tim
He is probably the entire Venn diagram of sports journalists with commentary experience who are also lifelong Reading fans
Would you rather a Jamie Theakston type Heart Radio focus group approved presenter from out of town? Because that is what you will get when Tim calls it a day. Have you heard Sky Sports commentary lately? It’s all just empty cliches, there is no substance or passion. That’s what happens when you push out good people with decades of experience to “freshen things up”
The BBC always lean to the status quo, so word from the club is always going to be reported in good faith whether you agree or not
by Reading4eva » 22 May 2025 07:11
Sutekhblueroyals I don’t mind going into bat in defence of our Tim
He is probably the entire Venn diagram of sports journalists with commentary experience who are also lifelong Reading fans
Would you rather a Jamie Theakston type Heart Radio focus group approved presenter from out of town? Because that is what you will get when Tim calls it a day. Have you heard Sky Sports commentary lately? It’s all just empty cliches, there is no substance or passion. That’s what happens when you push out good people with decades of experience to “freshen things up”
The BBC always lean to the status quo, so word from the club is always going to be reported in good faith whether you agree or not
Occasional Tim substitute, Johnny Saunders is quality and what Tim should aspire to as a commentator, but sadly he isn’t quite near that level. The guy before Tim, Joel Hufford, had something about him so there’s talent out there that the local media can uncover. Pundit side-kick wise, Brian Howard is pretty sharp whereas Mick sadly gives the impression of not quite being with it. Ady is just![]()
But I’d probably miss them if they weren’t there
by Only one Trevor Morley » 22 May 2025 07:40
by Sutekh » 22 May 2025 07:42
Only one Trevor Morley I don’t think Couhig has an issue with the BBC (he is happy to be interviewed by south today). His issue is with Dellor and I think in particular Dellors willingness to blur what he was hearing via Howe and present it as fact. Dellor even said on twitter he wasn’t sure who the bigger villains were between Dai and Couhig! I think Couhig also irritated Dellor by actually using a pr machine that didn’t always include Dellor. Dellor used to being the main media guy in town which is no longer the case.
As for bbc radio Berkshire I’d get rid Ady and Mick and I say that as someone who gets all the endless references to when they played. But anyone under age of 40 will struggle - as my son said to me why do they keep mentioning Scott Taylor and Archie Lovell? who are they? We’re getting analysis through the lens of footballers whose heyday was 30 years ago….
by Orion1871 » 22 May 2025 07:46
SutekhOnly one Trevor Morley I don’t think Couhig has an issue with the BBC (he is happy to be interviewed by south today). His issue is with Dellor and I think in particular Dellors willingness to blur what he was hearing via Howe and present it as fact. Dellor even said on twitter he wasn’t sure who the bigger villains were between Dai and Couhig! I think Couhig also irritated Dellor by actually using a pr machine that didn’t always include Dellor. Dellor used to being the main media guy in town which is no longer the case.
As for bbc radio Berkshire I’d get rid Ady and Mick and I say that as someone who gets all the endless references to when they played. But anyone under age of 40 will struggle - as my son said to me why do they keep mentioning Scott Taylor and Archie Lovell? who are they? We’re getting analysis through the lens of footballers whose heyday was 30 years ago….
Blasphemer!
by rabidbee » 22 May 2025 09:52
by Armadillo Roadkill » 22 May 2025 11:15
rabidbee Don't worry guys, it's probably not long until the BBC axes Radio Berks. Then we can all look forward to weekly commentary from the Oxford matches on Thames Valley FM.
by RoyalBlue » 22 May 2025 11:24
.morganbOrion1871Stranded
It wouldn't surprise me if we see more deals such as the Savage/Elliott deals whereby we go to a Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool type of club and say, we'll take player X off your hands for nothing now on a 3 or 4 year deal. He'll be in or near to the first team immediately and if we sell him at any point during his time with us, you get 50 or 60% of any fee (less any agreed training costs etc).
May block some players coming out of our Academy but if the player we bring in is better at the same age, it would make sense.
Those deals had a lot to do with the role Eddie Niedzwiecki had at the club. Now he's gone there may not be the opportunity to make that type of transfer.
So, what's Eddie doing at the moment? Perhaps if we want this kind of deal and he was instrumental to them perhaps we bring him back again?
by Reading4eva » 22 May 2025 14:54
RoyalBlue.morganbOrion1871
Those deals had a lot to do with the role Eddie Niedzwiecki had at the club. Now he's gone there may not be the opportunity to make that type of transfer.
So, what's Eddie doing at the moment? Perhaps if we want this kind of deal and he was instrumental to them perhaps we bring him back again?
Playing golf, I suspect.
Can't see RC increasing the headcount but maybe pay him on a job by job basis? I suspect paying him on deals done basis would take us dangerously close to unauthorised agent territory
by The Royal Forester » 22 May 2025 15:11
rabidbee Don't worry guys, it's probably not long until the BBC axes Radio Berks. Then we can all look forward to weekly commentary from the Oxford matches on Thames Valley FM.
by Sutekh » 22 May 2025 15:22
rabidbee Don't worry guys, it's probably not long until the BBC axes Radio Berks. Then we can all look forward to weekly commentary from the Oxford matches on Thames Valley FM.
by Sutekh » 22 May 2025 15:25
The Royal Foresterrabidbee Don't worry guys, it's probably not long until the BBC axes Radio Berks. Then we can all look forward to weekly commentary from the Oxford matches on Thames Valley FM.
I seem to remember they did this quite a few years ago. As you say, the commentary was the O**ord match, not even a score update from our game. I had to resort to Teletext to find how we were getting on.
Was it Joel (Hufford?) and Tim who co-commented on our matches at one time? If I remember correctly, they didn't appear to get on too well. Joel, I think went to Southend (or somewhere around that area) to commentate for a Hospital Radio.
by katweslowski » 22 May 2025 16:10
Sutekhblueroyals I don’t mind going into bat in defence of our Tim
He is probably the entire Venn diagram of sports journalists with commentary experience who are also lifelong Reading fans
Would you rather a Jamie Theakston type Heart Radio focus group approved presenter from out of town? Because that is what you will get when Tim calls it a day. Have you heard Sky Sports commentary lately? It’s all just empty cliches, there is no substance or passion. That’s what happens when you push out good people with decades of experience to “freshen things up”
The BBC always lean to the status quo, so word from the club is always going to be reported in good faith whether you agree or not
Ady is just![]()
by paddy20 » 22 May 2025 16:24
traff Just sounds like RC is on his first steps to becoming a fully fledged Reading fan.
Step 4: Reading fans understand that Deller is a bit of a dick.
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