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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by leon » 03 Nov 2014 10:11

wingnut I suspect that Leon doesn't disagree with your "lack of creativity" criticism, but probably takes issue with the very last part of that sentence.
We won the league without Gylfi. HTH.


Indeed. When we won the league (without Gylfi) we were ruthless in front of goal. As a counter attacking team you have to be if you want to be successful. Which we were.

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by floyd__streete » 03 Nov 2014 12:55

The extent of my effort for this game was watching the goals on FLS and heartily L'ing OL when I saw Federici's woeful efforts for the freekick goal :lol: Another one for his extensive collection of gaffes, you'd think for all the practice he gets playing behind our woeful defence he'd finally get to sort out his useless positioning.

Minor LOL at the club's media spin boasting of having the youngest defence in the division. Only two teams have conceded more than us, so I wouldn't be using that as a badge of honour. Youngsters such as Hector (already suspended due to too many yellow cards) and Kuhl (dropped, having frankly bombed) should probably be out on loan in League 1 or 2 learning the game rather than getting exposed in a failing Championship side.

The one bright side is that none of the other relegation strugglers won.

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by Ian Royal » 03 Nov 2014 17:52

floyd__streete The extent of my effort for this game was watching the goals on FLS and heartily L'ing OL when I saw Federici's woeful efforts for the freekick goal :lol: Another one for his extensive collection of gaffes, you'd think for all the practice he gets playing behind our woeful defence he'd finally get to sort out his useless positioning.

Minor LOL at the club's media spin boasting of having the youngest defence in the division. Only two teams have conceded more than us, so I wouldn't be using that as a badge of honour. Youngsters such as Hector (already suspended due to too many yellow cards) and Kuhl (dropped, having frankly bombed) should probably be out on loan in League 1 or 2 learning the game rather than getting exposed in a failing Championship side.

The one bright side is that none of the other relegation strugglers won.

:lol:

Kuhl - bombed? How can you tell from your armchair?

It's not boasting, it's context for the mindless fans who think we should be amazing with no justification.

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by Martin41 » 03 Nov 2014 18:11

floyd__streete The extent of my effort for this game was watching the goals on FLS and heartily L'ing OL when I saw Federici's woeful efforts for the freekick goal :lol: Another one for his extensive collection of gaffes, you'd think for all the practice he gets playing behind our woeful defence he'd finally get to sort out his useless positioning.

Minor LOL at the club's media spin boasting of having the youngest defence in the division. Only two teams have conceded more than us, so I wouldn't be using that as a badge of honour. Youngsters such as Hector (already suspended due to too many yellow cards) and Kuhl (dropped, having frankly bombed) should probably be out on loan in League 1 or 2 learning the game rather than getting exposed in a failing Championship side.

The one bright side is that none of the other relegation strugglers won.


The doom monger is back!!!!!

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by harry » 03 Nov 2014 18:12

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RoyallyFcuked Back from the stream? Your telling me there was a stream for this game?

Sadly we made the trip for another episode of disappointment. Disappointing from Adkins, the changes made to line up were just wrong. HRK instead of Cox? Not starting Mackie an even stranger choice.

Blackburn were the better side until they scored, after that when we eventually levelled the score we deserved it. I was actually optimistic at the start of the second half but the next goal was important and they got it. From where I was it didnt look it like it should have been free kick so I felt a bit robbed (might need to see it again), thought the ref had a dire game tbh. He made a ridculous decision to book Obita for basically backing Rhodes into the corner and also memorably gave them a free kick for foul almost exactly the same as one he had let them get away with moments earlier. Seemed like a lot of the 50 50s were going against us, but I'm not using that as an excuse.

Federici was ok, made one quality double save (looked like he made up for a bad connection to the initial effort), but didnt make it easy for himself for their free kick goal. Obita and Gunter wernt too bad although still think Gunter shouldnt be captain, but the positive in defence was Cooper. I would go as far to say start him with Hector next game. A lack of experience without Pearce I know but as we can see from him and Gunter, experience doesnt seem to mean much.

In midfield Blackman was probably our best player, seems to have the confidence the run at players now which is he actually decent at. There usually wasnt any decent passing options at the end of his run though, we are clueless in the final third. We just end up going backwards or passing it sidewards. On the rare occasions our players got into positions to shoot they didnt seem to want to.
I thought Akpan had a decent game, Norwood has some good ideas but some of his attempts to pull them off were poor. Didnt notice Taylor that much but he did have one good attempt in the first half at 1-0, a half volley that he caught nicely that was well saved.

Murray was alright again but looks better with Cox next to him, (probably starting to get frustrated with this team) HRK didnt offer much and noticeably didnt seem to want to win any headers. Williams looked decent when he came on, will be good to have him an McCleary back. Should see us create a bit more. There was still some hoofball going on sadly, in fact its looking like many of the problems that were present under McDermott are still there, like the lack of creativity and cutting edge in the final third which I reckon has basically been missing since Sigurdsson left.


your last sentence means I can't take anything else in your post seriously, sorry


You could always ignore the last sentence. The rest seems a fair reflection of the game I saw.


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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by sandman » 03 Nov 2014 18:15

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floyd__streete The extent of my effort for this game was watching the goals on FLS and heartily L'ing OL when I saw Federici's woeful efforts for the freekick goal :lol: Another one for his extensive collection of gaffes, you'd think for all the practice he gets playing behind our woeful defence he'd finally get to sort out his useless positioning.

Minor LOL at the club's media spin boasting of having the youngest defence in the division. Only two teams have conceded more than us, so I wouldn't be using that as a badge of honour. Youngsters such as Hector (already suspended due to too many yellow cards) and Kuhl (dropped, having frankly bombed) should probably be out on loan in League 1 or 2 learning the game rather than getting exposed in a failing Championship side.

The one bright side is that none of the other relegation strugglers won.

:lol:

Kuhl - bombed? How can you tell from your armchair?

It's not boasting, it's context for the mindless fans who think we should be amazing with no justification.


No one thinks "we should be amazing" Ian, that's you trying to make other people look unreasonable to suit your own agenda. People, quite rightly think we should be showing some sign of progress and learning from the fairly obvious mistakes that are continually occurring.

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by floyd__streete » 03 Nov 2014 18:31

Martin41 The doom monger is back!!!!!


We're showing relegation form, Marty - do you mind if I call you Marty? - so you can hardly expect people to be handing out bouquets of flowers to a failing team :!:

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by floyd__streete » 03 Nov 2014 18:35

Ian Royal Kuhl - bombed? How can you tell from your armchair?


I have attended four games this season, I think that Kuhl played every single one of those. He looked very much out of his depth and continually gave away possession with his attempts to play Hollywood passes with every other touch. He has since been dropped from the first team.

Ian, if you were around more than a hundred years ago you'd be at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean telling everyone to stop panicking, this ship is unsinkable etc.

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by Ian Royal » 03 Nov 2014 18:36

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floyd__streete The extent of my effort for this game was watching the goals on FLS and heartily L'ing OL when I saw Federici's woeful efforts for the freekick goal :lol: Another one for his extensive collection of gaffes, you'd think for all the practice he gets playing behind our woeful defence he'd finally get to sort out his useless positioning.

Minor LOL at the club's media spin boasting of having the youngest defence in the division. Only two teams have conceded more than us, so I wouldn't be using that as a badge of honour. Youngsters such as Hector (already suspended due to too many yellow cards) and Kuhl (dropped, having frankly bombed) should probably be out on loan in League 1 or 2 learning the game rather than getting exposed in a failing Championship side.

The one bright side is that none of the other relegation strugglers won.

:lol:

Kuhl - bombed? How can you tell from your armchair?

It's not boasting, it's context for the mindless fans who think we should be amazing with no justification.


No one thinks "we should be amazing" Ian, that's you trying to make other people look unreasonable to suit your own agenda. People, quite rightly think we should be showing some sign of progress and learning from the fairly obvious mistakes that are continually occurring.

When in Rome.


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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by Ian Royal » 03 Nov 2014 18:39

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Ian Royal Kuhl - bombed? How can you tell from your armchair?


I have attended four games this season, I think that Kuhl played every single one of those. He looked very much out of his depth and continually gave away possession with his attempts to play Hollywood passes with every other touch. He has since been dropped from the first team.

Ian, if you were around more than a hundred years ago you'd be at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean telling everyone to stop panicking, this ship is unsinkable etc.

Is this the same Kuhl with an pass success rate of 86% who attempts on average 2.7 long balls a game? :lol:

I think you might be confusing him with Gunter.

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by Martin41 » 03 Nov 2014 18:41

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Martin41 The doom monger is back!!!!!


We're showing relegation form, Marty - do you mind if I call you Marty? - so you can hardly expect people to be handing out bouquets of flowers to a failing team :!:



No that's not my name........

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by floyd__streete » 03 Nov 2014 18:43

I didn't say long balls, I said Hollywood balls. He spots passes which would be ideal for putting us in good attacking positions.....were it not for the fact they were easily read and inevitibly intercepted.

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by floyd__streete » 03 Nov 2014 18:43

Stacey No that's not my name........


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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by Ian Royal » 03 Nov 2014 18:44

floyd__streete I didn't say long balls, I said Hollywood balls. He spots passes which would be ideal for putting us in good attacking positions.....were it not for the fact they were easily read and inevitibly intercepted.

86%.

Statistics define long balls as a long pass. Typically the definition of a hollywood pass.

Basically, what you've said is total bull. If you're going to criticise Kuhl it's got to be on his strength on the ball and defensive quality. Not on his passing. If you criticise his passing, you look stupid. Seeing as it's second only to Norwood.
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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by floyd__streete » 03 Nov 2014 18:46

:lol:

Alright then, Championship Manager :!:

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by RoyalBlue » 03 Nov 2014 19:12

floyd__streete The extent of my effort for this game was watching the goals on FLS and heartily L'ing OL when I saw Federici's woeful efforts for the freekick goal :lol: Another one for his extensive collection of gaffes, you'd think for all the practice he gets playing behind our woeful defence he'd finally get to sort out his useless positioning.

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Seem to remember Dillon saying it was a fantastic free kick that left him with no chance. And no, Dillon didn't put that down to his useless positioning!

How convenient and typical that you fail to mention the brilliant double save he made earlier in the game.

We could win 6-0 against one of the top teams with every player producing a blinder and still you would be eagerly searching for something to criticise Adkins for.

One of my main reasons for continuing to hope that Adkins succeeds is to see you explode with frustration when he does.

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by floyd__streete » 03 Nov 2014 19:19

Royal Blue One of my main reasons for continuing to hope that Adkins succeeds is to see you explode with frustration when he does.


:lol:

Btw, Is this the first post you have ever made which doesn't bad mouth John Madejski, you sour and obsessive man?

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by Forest Gump » 03 Nov 2014 19:48

I think its incredibly naive to believe that you can progress with too many youngsters in the side at this level - although it is a convenient way of trying to cut costs. Personally I would prefer if the club came out and said it could not afford to fund a proper team although honesty about funding has never been a strong point at Reading.
I think we are seeing, as a result of this flawed approach, a side increasingly low on confidence in themselves, each other, the manager and the system he thinks they should play. Out of the something has to change and it is increasingly obvious that the manager must be part of this change.
Perhaps we shouldn't feel sorry for footballers who are, after all, payed very well to cope with this kind of demoralisation week in - week out.
But I do think it is a shame for the likes of Kuhl who would benefit from the protection of some more robust team mates.
I read a comment saying the younger players need some League 1 experience. Perhaps that's why the Club is allowing itself to drift in that direction.

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by Ian Royal » 03 Nov 2014 22:30

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floyd__streete The extent of my effort for this game was watching the goals on FLS and heartily L'ing OL when I saw Federici's woeful efforts for the freekick goal :lol: Another one for his extensive collection of gaffes, you'd think for all the practice he gets playing behind our woeful defence he'd finally get to sort out his useless positioning.

.


Seem to remember Dillon saying it was a fantastic free kick that left him with no chance. And no, Dillon didn't put that down to his useless positioning!

How convenient and typical that you fail to mention the brilliant double save he made earlier in the game.

We could win 6-0 against one of the top teams with every player producing a blinder and still you would be eagerly searching for something to criticise Adkins for.

One of my main reasons for continuing to hope that Adkins succeeds is to see you explode with frustration when he does.

I mentioned the brilliant double save. It doesn't stop his positioning for the free kick being shit, or for leaving an outfield player to position the wall really badly either. The freekick was very well placed. But the fact is it didn't need to be thanks to the wall and Federici's positioning. And I'm sorry, but when you're a goalkeeper, your damn well responsible for your wall at a freekick.

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Re: Back From Th Stream Blackburn

by Caversham Royal » 03 Nov 2014 23:15

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Ian Royal Kuhl - bombed? How can you tell from your armchair?


I have attended four games this season, I think that Kuhl played every single one of those. He looked very much out of his depth and continually gave away possession with his attempts to play Hollywood passes with every other touch. He has since been dropped from the first team.

Ian, if you were around more than a hundred years ago you'd be at the bottom of the Atlantic ocean telling everyone to stop panicking, this ship is unsinkable etc.


Four whole games??
Wowweee Pretend-Floyd, the team salutes you.......

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