3 wins needed to reach safty

[redscot]

At 10 points Reading are 3 wins from safety. 2 wins that would equal Southampton. These wins would need to come from West Ham, Tottenham and West Brom. It is a big ask, though...

[LUX]

er, what happens if Southampton ( for example) win one of their next three games?

[cmonurz]

At 10 points Reading are 3 wins from safety. 2 wins that would equal Southampton. These wins would need to come from West Ham, Tottenham and West Brom. It is a big ask, though...

Is no one else going to play any matches then?

[Toon Toon Blue army]

You should contact Sky Sports and ask for a job.

[RobRoyal]

At 10 points Reading are 3 wins from safety. 2 wins that would equal Southampton. These wins would need to come from West Ham, Tottenham and West Brom. It is a big ask, though...

Or maybe we could leave it until a little later and beat Southampton, QPR and Wigan.

[SPARTA]

At 10 points Reading are 3 wins from safety. 2 wins that would equal Southampton. These wins would need to come from West Ham, Tottenham and West Brom. It is a big ask, though...

??? Three wins is 9 points, so 10 points behind would mean needing 4 wins to achieve safety.. Also, we're still 6 points off tonight, with Saints having a game in hand -- or am I missing the point to this thread? Does the season end after the next 3 fixtures? I hope so.

[redscot]

To reach safety and stay there are of course two different things. But at present 2 wins is not enough, which it was before todays game.

[SPARTA]

To reach safety and stay there are of course two different things. But at present 2 wins is not enough, which it was before todays game.

Wrong. 2 wins with goal difference could actually be enough to climb, even temporarily, out of the bottom three. Depends on Saints losing their games at the same time, and conceding a couple obviously.

[redscot]

Over the next 3 games Aston Villa will play Wigan and Southampton. There must be a win or draw in those games...

[Kingsley Junior]

Well, two wins would probably be enough if we are assuming Saints and Wigan lose the next two games and we win the next two. Saints are 5 goals better off on GD at present, they would be at least minus two worse off and us at least plus two better off the current totals by virtue of losing/winning those two games making Saints only one goal better off on goal difference maximum, but if we won either game by at least two or they lost either by at least two, it would swing back in our favour (depends on how many goals both teams scored in that period to be precise on whether we need to better them on goal difference or just goals scored - Saints have scored two more at present). We would go above Wigan by any combination of scores if we win twice and they lose twice.

Saying all that, it is highly irrelevant. It matters only where we are after game 38. Winning the next three games would mean nothing if we aren't 17th or above come the end of West Ham away in May. Why have I just bothered writing all this? No idea. Winning the next two or three games would certainly be a good start...

[grey_squirrel]

What is safty?

[Kingsley Junior]

Over the next 3 games Aston Villa will play Wigan and Southampton. There must be a win or draw in those games...

Aston Villa are 16th. They can win both games, it has no effect on our ability to earn 17th place in two games time.

[LUX]

What is safty?

3 wins.

Pay attention.

[redscot]

Saying all that, it is highly irrelevant. It matters only where we are after game 38.

It is not totally irrelevant how large the gap to safety is. It is not a moral boaster to be say 5 wins from safety....

[Kingsley Junior]

Saying all that, it is highly irrelevant. It matters only where we are after game 38.

It is not totally irrelevant how large the gap to safety is. It is not a moral boaster to be say 5 wins from safety....

I said highly, not totally. Different words, different meanings. It has a small factor depending on the mentality of a group, but being 17th in two or three games time is not gonna matter one iota if we aren't at least 17th after 38 games. It is about where we finish and not the order we get points in. After a win over Everton, we climbed out of the drop zone and I allowed myself to think "great, I think it will be onwards and upwards from here". We lost the next seven games. I'd rather be 17th than six points off 17th after our 21st or 22nd game, but prizes are handed out come mid May.

[runrunrunrungilksey]

Over the next 3 games Aston Villa will play Wigan and Southampton. There must be a win or draw in those games...

Aston Villa are 16th. They can win both games, it has no effect on our ability to earn 17th place in two games time.

Aston Villa #droppinglikeastone

[Millsy]

I think staying up is very doable. It's what Brian and the players thrive on.

Rather that than our second season in the prem where we did it (or not) the other round.

[urz13]

IF we beat West Ham and the other teams around us lose we'll be 3 points off survival with January to come and 5 huge games against the teams around us, at home. I'm feeling positive that if we sign well in Jan - Arshavin, Huddlestone and one other perhaps) - and are only 3 points off survival that we can certainly stay up.

[urz13]

Over the next 3 games Aston Villa will play Wigan and Southampton. There must be a win or draw in those games...

Aston Villa are 16th. They can win both games, it has no effect on our ability to earn 17th place in two games time.

Aston Villa #droppinglikeastone

Yes it does. If saints lose their two and we beat West Ham and somehow Spurs we'd probably have a better GD and would move ahead of them.

[Kingsley Junior]

As Villa are 16th and 8 points above us, their results in the next two games aren't important in terms of us getting out of the bottom three in that period. The fact they play Saints in three games time confuses things, but if that was in the time frame of the next two games talked about, it wouldn't matter if Villa got a win, just if Saints did. Therefore the opponents faced by Wigan and Saints in their next two games doesn't matter. But as I said before, nothing matters until after game 38. I'm pretty sure we weren't in the drop zone after game 36 in 2008. We were after game 38.