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BFTG - Sheffield

by Sutekh » 03 Aug 2019 17:14

OK then, let us know how you saw it. Be particularly interested in how Virginia did as gk is such a key position. Also did Barrett, Loader, Richards and Olise step up well?

To be fair Wednesday are a much more experienced and settled squad and a good one too so was always going to be tough.

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Re: BFTG - Sheffield

by P!ssed Off » 03 Aug 2019 17:21

Keeper was shite unfortunately.
Loader needs a rocket up his arse.
Barrett was slightly better.
We'll need to go to three at the back if Yiadom is expected to play RW.

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Re: BFTG - Sheffield

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2019 17:27

So. That was frustrating as shit.

Talking points.
1 Handball - not sure how that works with the new rule, but saw a screen shot and definitely arm despite the ref's claim otherwise and clearly leaning in to the ball, but was by his side.
2 Miazga pen. Nailed on, totally sandwiched out of it and taken down.
3 Ref utter shit. Let Weds cynically foul again and again. Rino wiped out to prevent a break at least 4 or 5 times. 1 maybe 2 yellows. Lots of wrong decisions. Played on loads for them, made us take free kicks rather than have advantage. Seemed poor time management and had no control.

Our defence, which should have been solid looked a total shambles. Massive holes between Yiadom and Moore. Speaking of which, why have him and Miazga swapped sides?

Virginia - 5 not sure I could say he was directly at fault for any goal. But inspired no confidence at all.
Yiadom - 6 almost scored. Attacked quite well but shambolic defending at times.
Richards - 6 err ok, attacked less well than Yiadom but thought he defended better and had better link up with MM
Moore - 5 no organisation in defence. Constantly left us wide open on the right leaving massive open gaps between him marking no one and Yiadom who was frequently double and tripled up on.
Miazga - 6 bit better than Moore but also some appalling passing at times.
Rino - 6 some great, though mostly fouled when doing it, but one of his less good games, caught out of position ball watching at times and some poor passing.
Swift - 6 surprisingly solid in midfield and some good moments with few poor ones, but needs to play higher
Loader - 5 tidy, but everything up top for us was too slow and la king in penetration. He was part of that.
Barrow - 6 hot and cold, think he should have scored the handball rebound
Meite - 7 scored and put himself a out but couldn't really win a lot in the air and it bounced off him a bit.
Barrett - 6 tidy, but one of too many attacking players not creating enough

Adam - 6 looked class when he came on playing high up. Then inexplicably dropped back and started spraying Hollywood balls into touch or to Wednesday.
Olise - 7 looks a cut above. Finds space, turns forward, demands the ball and plays at a high tempo
Nova - barely had a touch and we decided to let Weds play in our left back position once he was on.

The goal kicks are shameful. Put your central defence and midfield in or on the edge of your box pass it short until you lose it or hoof it forward to the big hole where your midfield should be.

Midfield plays too deep and we have no focal point. There's nothing in the middle of the pitch for us in their half of the middle third. Unless everyone comes deep and then we have no one in their defensive third.

Despite that big gripe, this team has something about it. But we were really naive and disorganised today.

Barry Bannon shit all over us.
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Re: BFTG - Sheffield

by Zip » 03 Aug 2019 17:28

Snowflake Royal So. That was frustrating as shit.

Talking points.
1 Handball - not sure how that works with the new rule, but saw a screen shot and definitely arm despite the ref's claim otherwise and clearly leaning in to the ball, but was by his side.
2 Miazga pen. Nailed on, totally sandwiched out of it and taken down.
3 Ref utter shit. Let Weds cynically foul again and again. Rino wiped out to prevent a break at least 4 or 5 times. 1 maybe 2 yellows. Lots of wrong decisions. Played on loads for them, made us take free kicks rather than have advantage. Seemed poor time management and had no control.

Our defence, which should have been solid looked a total shambles. Massive holes between Yiadom and Moore. Speaking of which, why have him and Miazga swapped sides?

Virginia - 5 not sure I could say he was directly at fault for any goal. But inspired no confidence at all.
Yiadom - 6 almost scored. Attacked quite well but shambolic defending at times.
Richards - 6 err ok, attacked less well than Yiadom but thought he defended better and had better link up with MM
Moore - 5 no organisation in defence. Constantly left us wide open on the right leaving massive open gaps between him marking no one and Yiadom who was frequently double and tripled up on.
Miazga - 6 bit better than Moore but also some appalling passing at times.
Rino - 6 some great, though mostly fouled when doing it, but one of his less good games, caught out of position ball watching at times and some poor passing.
Swift - 6 surprisingly solid in midfield and some good moments with few poor ones, but needs to play higher
Loader - 5 tidy, but everything up top for us was too slow and la king in penetration. He was part of that.
Barrow - 6 hot and cold, think he should have scored the handball rebound
Meite - 7 scored and put himself a out but couldn't really win a lot in the air and it bounced off him a bit.
Barrett - 6 tidy, but one of too many attacking players not creating enough

Adam - 6 looked class when he came on playing high up. Then inexplicably dropped back and started spraying Hollywood balls into touch or to Wednesday.
Olise - 7 looks a cut above. Finds space, turns forward, demands the ball and plays at a high tempo
Nova - barely had a touch and we decided to let Weds play in our left back position once he was on.

The goal kicks are shameful. Put your central defence and midfield in or on the edge of your box pass it short until you lose it or hoof it forward to the big hole where your midfield should be.

Midfield plays too deep and we have no focal point. There's nothing in the middle of the pitch for us in their half of the middle third. Unless everyone comes deep and then we have no one in their defensive third.

Despite that big gripe, this team has something about it. But we were really naive and disorganised today.


Still abroad so missed this one but so disappointed with the result. It sounds like Wednesday were cynical and we were naive. We need to shape up quickly.

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Re: BFTG - Sheffield

by Ranty McRantface » 03 Aug 2019 17:30

P!ssed Off Keeper was shite unfortunately.
Loader needs a rocket up his arse.
Barrett was slightly better.
We'll need to go to three at the back if Yiadom is expected to play RW.


I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion the keeper was shite. There is nothing Virginia could have done with the goals and he saved what he could.


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by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2019 17:32

Ranty McRantface
P!ssed Off Keeper was shite unfortunately.
Loader needs a rocket up his arse.
Barrett was slightly better.
We'll need to go to three at the back if Yiadom is expected to play RW.


I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion the keeper was shite. There is nothing Virginia could have done with the goals and he saved what he could.

Though he flapped at the second and I knew where the third was going several seconds before it went there, so he should have been able to get there, even to the corner.

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by The Enfield Royal71 » 03 Aug 2019 17:33

Ranty McRantface
P!ssed Off Keeper was shite unfortunately.
Loader needs a rocket up his arse.
Barrett was slightly better.
We'll need to go to three at the back if Yiadom is expected to play RW.


I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion the keeper was shite. There is nothing Virginia could have done with the goals and he saved what he could.


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Re: BFTG - Sheffield

by windermereROYAL » 03 Aug 2019 17:40

Norwich last season all over it, we score. they nearly score from the ko, never mind we will let them score from the resulting corner instead. .

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by P!ssed Off » 03 Aug 2019 17:47

Ranty McRantface
P!ssed Off Keeper was shite unfortunately.
Loader needs a rocket up his arse.
Barrett was slightly better.
We'll need to go to three at the back if Yiadom is expected to play RW.


I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion the keeper was shite. There is nothing Virginia could have done with the goals and he saved what he could.


Could have saved the 1st goal.

2nd goal appeared straight at him.
Looked like he was down slowly for the 3rd goal, and not his fault but he's too short to save anything heading towards the corners.


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by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2019 17:50

C1871 was great by the way.

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Re: BFTG - Sheffield

by sandman » 03 Aug 2019 17:54

Moore and Miazga have swapped sides because according to Gomes, "Moore is better offensively playing there".

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by windermereROYAL » 03 Aug 2019 17:57

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P!ssed Off Keeper was shite unfortunately.
Loader needs a rocket up his arse.
Barrett was slightly better.
We'll need to go to three at the back if Yiadom is expected to play RW.


I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion the keeper was shite. There is nothing Virginia could have done with the goals and he saved what he could.


Could have saved the 1st goal.

2nd goal appeared straight at him.
Looked like he was down slowly for the 3rd goal, and not his fault but he's too short to save anything heading towards the corners.


1st goal one on one into the carner. 2nd goal a free header from 8 yards. already gone for the 3rd. fukking joking right?

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by URZZZZZZZZ » 03 Aug 2019 17:58

As a match it was quite even, although it’s fair to say Wednesday had a bit more bite in midfield. Chances wise there was nothing in it, but they just took theirs unfortunately.

Worrying performance from the keeper, the second in particular went straight through him.

Yakou won everything in the air, and Barrow went from the sublime to the ridiculous as he usually does.

As soon as the ref was announced earlier this week I knew we were in trouble. It’s hard to not sound bitter when you blame the ref after a loss, but he was so poor as far as we were concerned. Repeatedly let cynical fouls go without a yellow, the obvious handball and foul in the box. A frustrating day.

Club 1871 atmosphere was superb, and you can add Sheff Wed to the growing list of normally noisy fans who were completely silent today despite the win.


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by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2019 17:58

sandman Moore and Miazga have swapped sides because according to Gomes, "Moore is better offensively playing there".

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by CountryRoyal » 03 Aug 2019 18:00

Ranty McRantface
P!ssed Off Keeper was shite unfortunately.
Loader needs a rocket up his arse.
Barrett was slightly better.
We'll need to go to three at the back if Yiadom is expected to play RW.


I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion the keeper was shite. There is nothing Virginia could have done with the goals and he saved what he could.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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by P!ssed Off » 03 Aug 2019 18:09

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I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion the keeper was shite. There is nothing Virginia could have done with the goals and he saved what he could.


Could have saved the 1st goal.

2nd goal appeared straight at him.
Looked like he was down slowly for the 3rd goal, and not his fault but he's too short to save anything heading towards the corners.


1st goal one on one into the carner. 2nd goal a free header from 8 yards. already gone for the 3rd. fukking joking right?


1st goal:
https://streamja.com/1Age

2nd goal would have bounced off him if he'd stood still.
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by SpaghettiHoop » 03 Aug 2019 18:10

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Barry Bannon shit all over us.


As he did last year. We don't learn.

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by PieEater » 03 Aug 2019 18:17

Pre season optimism has totally evaporated.

As I anticipated that was a poor result against an average team and you have to say Wednesday deserved it. They took their chances and played as a team. We looked lost, no plan, and just battled. When we finally attacked we should have scored, it looked like a handball off the line but that was really our only chance until we scored.

Moore was at fault for their first, I'm not sure where the marking was for their second.

Of the team the only stand out poor performance was Loader, utterly useless and only seemed to pass backwards. The others were just average, I dont think anyone played particularly well. I was hoping Adam would add something but he kept overhitting his passes.

You can blame the ref for letting them get away repeatedly with fouls, every time we beat a man they cynically pulled us back yet no yellow cards were forthcoming. But you have to play what's in front of you and we simply had no ideas.

Again you wonder what we did in preseason. I don't think Gomes started our best team I don't expect Loader to start next week.

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by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2019 18:20

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Barry Bannon shit all over us.


As he did last year. We don't learn.

Yep, left in acres of space time and again. But what do you expect when you ask your CBs to be playmakers, your midfielders to be defenders and your fullback to be wingers.

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by Snowflake Royal » 03 Aug 2019 18:23

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Could have saved the 1st goal.

2nd goal appeared straight at him.
Looked like he was down slowly for the 3rd goal, and not his fault but he's too short to save anything heading towards the corners.


1st goal one on one into the carner. 2nd goal a free header from 8 yards. already gone for the 3rd. fukking joking right?


1st goal:
https://streamja.com/1Age

2nd goal would have bounced off him if he'd stood still.

Yeah, that is categorically poor.

In fact everything about that goal was poor. Rino passing to them, Yiadom and Rino both stepping up, Moore slow to cover and then falls over himself failing to block their winger only for the keeper to let the shot through him.

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