Player ratings vs Liverpool

[Millsy]

Hello, if Ken Dodd is alive, please can some people who went to the match give some ratings for us lot who couldn't go...

[phil in cornwall]

Dodd......9

[Millsy]

Aha, now I see...

Really, the naming of threads differently to their exact content is very Doddogenic.

LOCK PLEASE

[Royalee]

Hahnemann - 6: Didn't do anything wrong and his distribution was alright. Then again he still conceded two goals.

Shorey - 6: Lost the ball for the winner and couldn't really get forward as much as he would like as he was given no support on the wing. Other than that, he had a typical Shorey game, tried to use the ball well, etc.

Duberry - 6: Looked a bit shakey before he had to go off.

Ingimarsson - 8: Had a superb game at the back - marshalled the defence well and didn't put a foot wrong all day.

Gunnarsson - 7: Poor first half in which he played a major part in us conceding. However, his second half performance was outstanding and he'd have got a 9 from me if he'd played like that all game.

Hunt - 5: Dreadful other than the pass for Gunnarsson's goal - didn't give Shorey any options down the left, didn't win many challenges, use of the ball overall was poor.

Harper - 5: Weak and fairly ineffective yet again - we really do look vulnerable when teams run at us at the moment and he's as big a reason as any for that. Also played far too deep.

Sidwell - 6: Didn't stand out or take the game by the scruff of the neck, but then again he didn't get walked all over like Harper.

Oster - 6: Didn't do anything to justify giving him a new contract, but then again our whole midfield was pretty poor, he tried to make himself available and use the ball effective. He deserves a few more chances yet.

Kitson - 6: Possibly guilty of trying to over-complicate things and I don't think he's playing at anywhere near his best at the moment. He isn't chasing or going into challenges as much as he used to and maybe it's because of the lack of Premiership games in a row there have been since his return. However, getting a feel for the ball and getting fully up to speed is difficult when you're given no service.

Doyle - 6: Again, not at his best but was given no service. Looked a bit sharper than Kitson, but then again he hasn't been out for anywhere near as big a length of time.

Subs:
Bikey - 5: Got caught out of position far too much (including possibly the winner). Having said that, he needs games and he's certainly a better prospect than Duberry. I think his positional play went backwards from his previous run of games as he was left out for a while (and possibly also because Murty wasn't there to instruct him).

Lita - 6: Didn't really have enough of a chance to show what he can do. I thought it was a poor decision to leave him out to be honest as his all round play's still been up there even since he's stopped scoring.

[Millsy]

Thanks for the effort Royalee!

Interesting ratings.

Apart from the Icelandics it looks like they made everyone look average.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Hunt - 5: Dreadful other than the pass for Gunnarsson's goal - didn't give Shorey any options down the left, didn't win many challenges, use of the ball overall was poor.

And yet Chris Kamara was at the game and on Goals on Sunday he was raving about what an amazing game Hunt had.

The great thing about footy is how different people view it. Its why pub conversations are so lively!

[loyal-royal]

Hahnemann - 6: Didn't do anything wrong and his distribution was alright. Then again he still conceded two goals.

Shorey - 6: Lost the ball for the winner and couldn't really get forward as much as he would like as he was given no support on the wing. Other than that, he had a typical Shorey game, tried to use the ball well, etc.

Duberry - 6: Looked a bit shakey before he had to go off.

Ingimarsson - 8: Had a superb game at the back - marshalled the defence well and didn't put a foot wrong all day.

Gunnarsson - 7: Poor first half in which he played a major part in us conceding. However, his second half performance was outstanding and he'd have got a 9 from me if he'd played like that all game.

Hunt - 5: Dreadful other than the pass for Gunnarsson's goal - didn't give Shorey any options down the left, didn't win many challenges, use of the ball overall was poor.

Harper - 5: Weak and fairly ineffective yet again - we really do look vulnerable when teams run at us at the moment and he's as big a reason as any for that. Also played far too deep.

Sidwell - 6: Didn't stand out or take the game by the scruff of the neck, but then again he didn't get walked all over like Harper.

Oster - 6: Didn't do anything to justify giving him a new contract, but then again our whole midfield was pretty poor, he tried to make himself available and use the ball effective. He deserves a few more chances yet.

Kitson - 6: Possibly guilty of trying to over-complicate things and I don't think he's playing at anywhere near his best at the moment. He isn't chasing or going into challenges as much as he used to and maybe it's because of the lack of Premiership games in a row there have been since his return. However, getting a feel for the ball and getting fully up to speed is difficult when you're given no service.

Doyle - 6: Again, not at his best but was given no service. Looked a bit sharper than Kitson, but then again he hasn't been out for anywhere near as big a length of time.

Subs:
Bikey - 5: Got caught out of position far too much (including possibly the winner). Having said that, he needs games and he's certainly a better prospect than Duberry. I think his positional play went backwards from his previous run of games as he was left out for a while (and possibly also because Murty wasn't there to instruct him).

Lita - 6: Didn't really have enough of a chance to show what he can do. I thought it was a poor decision to leave him out to be honest as his all round play's still been up there even since he's stopped scoring.

agree accept for gunnarson and hunt. would give gunnarson a well deserved 9 thought he was solid all game, unlucky with the 1st goal as shorey free kick was poor. Hunt would give a 7 he ran his socks of and allways looked up for it.

[RoyalBird]

Not sure why everyone thought Gunnarsson had a great game. Ok he took his goal very well and worked hard with some good tackling, but he was beaten for pace by Mark Gonzalez a lot of the time... then again, so was Oster and Sidwell when they tried to take the ball off him.

Bikey - 5: Got caught out of position far too much (including possibly the winner). Having said that, he needs games and he's certainly a better prospect than Duberry. I think his positional play went backwards from his previous run of games as he was left out for a while (and possibly also because Murty wasn't there to instruct him).

Agreed. Was way out of position for the winner. Lost marking Kuyt, went too deep and ended up playing kuyt onside for his header. Though I'm sure Ingimarsson would have been instructing him as well about where to be at the right moment though.

[Royalee]

Hunt - 5: Dreadful other than the pass for Gunnarsson's goal - didn't give Shorey any options down the left, didn't win many challenges, use of the ball overall was poor.

And yet Chris Kamara was at the game and on Goals on Sunday he was raving about what an amazing game Hunt had.

The great thing about footy is how different people view it. Its why pub conversations are so lively!

Chris Kamara made Sidwell the best player in the Football League last season when a lot of fans wouldn't have had him in their top 6 Reading players. Enough said.

[North stander]

Hunt - 5: Dreadful other than the pass for Gunnarsson's goal - didn't give Shorey any options down the left, didn't win many challenges, use of the ball overall was poor.

And yet Chris Kamara was at the game and on Goals on Sunday he was raving about what an amazing game Hunt had.

The great thing about footy is how different people view it. Its why pub conversations are so lively!

I thought in the first half Hunt won loads of challenges. For me, he had his best game for ages.

[Chaney]

Sorry Ryalee but you say Gunnar was poor in the 1st then you give him a 7 but say he deserved 9, he was decent yes, but people are forgetting it was him and Bikey who failed to notice Kuyt coming in at the far post for the winner..christ Stevie Wonder could have seen that coming

[blue_army1871]

Hunt - 5: Dreadful other than the pass for Gunnarsson's goal - didn't give Shorey any options down the left, didn't win many challenges, use of the ball overall was poor.

And yet Chris Kamara was at the game and on Goals on Sunday he was raving about what an amazing game Hunt had.

The great thing about footy is how different people view it. Its why pub conversations are so lively!

I thought Hunt had a very good first half and linked up with Shorey well but did not see alot of him in the second, probably because he was on the opposite side to me.

[Royalee]

Sorry Ryalee but you say Gunnar was poor in the 1st then you give him a 7 but say he deserved 9, he was decent yes, but people are forgetting it was him and Bikey who failed to notice Kuyt coming in at the far post for the winner..christ Stevie Wonder could have seen that coming

Bikey was playing centre back and the centre forward whom he was supposed to be marking scored the goal. As much as I rate Bikey, he was stood in no man's land when he should have had Kuyt. Gunnarsson's responsibility should have been the left sided winger.

My point was that if Gunnarsson had played the way he did in the second all game, he would have got a 9 from me. However, he had a poor first half, which brought my mark for him down to a 7 overall.

[lovetoscore]

USA 6 maybe could have claimed the cross for their second goal?

Bryn 8-tackled and got stuck in.Great goal

Shorey 7-got forward when he could and generally sound tho got dispossesed for their winner

Ivar 8-rock solid.2 great saving challenges in the second half

Duberry 7-looked good,some good headers.Shame he had to go off-we missed him

Bikey 5-Looked uncomfortable at cb and not in same class as Duberry.totally failed to pick up Kuyt for their goal.

Sidwell 6-got stuck in defensively as usual but offering little going forward.

Harper 5-ran around,played far too deep and created nothing and no tackling

Oster 5- didn't seem to want to make himself available and not once did he run at the fullback

Hunt 7-worked hard and at least had some shots at goal and a few useful passes

kitson 6- battled but ineffective and struggled to hold the ball up

Doyle 6- quiet game for him

Lita 6-brought on far too late to have much impact