Royal Elm Park

[melonhead]

oxf*rd th ecompanies. just cone off one side of the green park roads and allow people to park on the other side

[Nameless]

If they were public roads you could maybe do that, but they aren't. You may as well point out that there are 5000 drives in Whitley and football parking should make use of those !

[RoyalBlue]

Two points
1. Most of us will park where we park now as only a fairly small proportion of fans park on the stadium site
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Yes, but a great number of us currently park at the old HP site and isn't that disappearing soon?

If so, it will be an absolute nightmare. I'm sure there are loads of people like me for whom public transport isn't a viable option, both in terms of cost and time.

I doubt the tossers at RBC will give a damn though. Those idiots say people should walk to and from the stadium and then only provide narrow pavements along the very busy approach roads!

[mx]

Quick comment. Reading Football Club Property Co Ltd is not a UK registered company. I've checked. So it's offshore somewhere. And I'm sure I read somewhere it's only "part owned by RFC" . So some other bugger is making more out of this than the football club Looks very nice though. Mx

[mx]

Quick comment. Reading Football Club Property Co Ltd is not a UK registered company. I've checked. So it's offshore somewhere. And I'm sure I read somewhere it's only "part owned by RFC" . So some other bugger is making more out of this than the football club Looks very nice though. Mx

Sorry if that's a Dodd. could't be oxf*rd to go through 9 pages

[mx]

Quick comment. Reading Football Club Property Co Ltd is not a UK registered company. I've checked. So it's offshore somewhere. And I'm sure I read somewhere it's only "part owned by RFC" . So some other bugger is making more out of this than the football club Looks very nice though. Mx

Sorry if that's a Dodd. could't be oxf*rd to go through 9 pages

Oi! I'm a Winchester City Fan. That should read "couldn't be Alresf *rd to go through 9 pages" .

Thank you. Pfft.

[multisync1830]

Quick comment. Reading Football Club Property Co Ltd is not a UK registered company. I've checked. So it's offshore somewhere. And I'm sure I read somewhere it's only "part owned by RFC" . So some other bugger is making more out of this than the football club Looks very nice though. Mx

https://companycheck.co.uk/company/0931 ... -structure
28 Jan 2015 Company name changed from RFC Plot 1 Limited to RFC Prop Co Limited

I strongly suspect Empire Asia as the real power behind the whole kit and caboodle

http://www.theempireasia.com/The_People.html

[gladbachbob]

Could do with a Royal Rendezvous (as at Elm Park), run by fans or Spoons. If enough room a mini stadium for Reserves and Ladies games and Concerts.

[Whore Jackie]

Turns out that the ice rink wil only be in operation 3 months a year. And even when it's open, the rink's seating capacity will be (even) smaller than John Nike. So no team is going to base itself there and benefits to the local community are pretty minimal. Particularly if the 'spoons doesn't materialise either.

[Nameless]

So more like the seasonal ones that are put into Somerset House or Liverpool St every year.

No surprise that the company is (to us ) offshore given we are 100% owned by foreigners ! This is obviously a scheme that is going to make money for the club owners, the vital bit for us is to know if that is going to put debt/risk on the club and how much benefit we will see. If too much of the former for not enough of the latter then there have to be concerns. But no one can imagine £200 million is being invested without someone expecting a pretty major return.

[Nameless]

Two points
1. Most of us will park where we park now as only a fairly small proportion of fans park on the stadium site
.

Yes, but a great number of us currently park at the old HP site and isn't that disappearing soon?

If so, it will be an absolute nightmare. I'm sure there are loads of people like me for whom public transport isn't a viable option, both in terms of cost and time.

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The HP car park was due to go at least a year ago but has been given extended life for a while. That needs addressing completely irrespective of the longer term plans. From what I hear lots of effort has been put into exploring alternatives but not heard what is going to happen. Not too sure what the club can do, you can't suddenly magic up a large area of Tarmaced land within 10 minutes walk of the ground that someone will let you have cheap. I would imagine a Southampton style scheme of outlying parking a free buses is most likely but even that is hard to find. Football fans have always suffered in this respect, there aren't many grounds you visit and think oh, great transport links there.....

[Sutekh]

Two points
1. Most of us will park where we park now as only a fairly small proportion of fans park on the stadium site
.

Yes, but a great number of us currently park at the old HP site and isn't that disappearing soon?

If so, it will be an absolute nightmare. I'm sure there are loads of people like me for whom public transport isn't a viable option, both in terms of cost and time.

:

The HP car park was due to go at least a year ago but has been given extended life for a while. That needs addressing completely irrespective of the longer term plans. From what I hear lots of effort has been put into exploring alternatives but not heard what is going to happen. Not too sure what the club can do, you can't suddenly magic up a large area of Tarmaced land within 10 minutes walk of the ground that someone will let you have cheap. I would imagine a Southampton style scheme of outlying parking a free buses is most likely but even that is hard to find. Football fans have always suffered in this respect, there aren't many grounds you visit and think oh, great transport links there.....

It continues to amaze how the authorities continually have it in for motorists. Build nice accessible arenas right next to motorways and major arterial roads and then totally fail to provide any parking facilities of any worthwhile nature saying that there are plenty of buses that will run to events. Great for those in a 5 mile radius of course but totally stupid if you aren't in that catchment area.

If that is going to be the case you may as well do what the idiots did in rebuilding Wembley and leave it in the middle of a town.

[Silver Fox]

Wembley is really easy to get to! Not sure what your point is?

[Nameless]

The options for us having a stadium in the centre of Reading are limited !

Pretty obvious why there is a huge need to discourage car usage. The flip side is that the alternatives have to be viable. some people will never give up their desire to drive from their front door to outside the venue but it's not realistic to expect to do that. There is a huge responsibility on the developers to show their alternatives work though.

[Top Flight]

The scheme looks great, but there needs to be more in the way of drinking establishments, eating establishments and car parking.

How many cars can currently park at the stadium? They should look to double that amount of parking with a multistorey car park rather than reduce the available parking at the stadium.

I live in Ruislip. For me public transport is not an option for watching the Royals. Unless a High Speed link is built between Ruislip and Green Park.

[Nameless]

But a park and ride at say J10 with a free bus service would be fine for you.
Or even an expanded Mereoak so you go south at J11, park 400m away and hop on a bus.

[blueroyals]

TBF partly owned could mean 1% share. We own the land at the moment (?) so hopefully the new company will be paying a fair price for it.

As for operational income once the houses are sold, I can't see us making any kind of substantial income if we only partly own the holding company...

[Nameless]

'We' own none of the land. We also own none of the stadium, the players or the training ground.
They are all owned 100% by the 3 wealthy Thais. There is no obligation on their part to invest any of the money back into the club.
Under SJM a small number of people owned shares in addition to him, but he was by a huge distance the majority shareholder so had complete power, which he exercised pretty favourably to the club.
So far the Thais seem very keen to back the club, but there is no cast iron guarantee this would continue. I suspect they could fund the development by loading the club with debt and then take all the profits.
Equally they could use the development to continue developing the club.
We really don't know and even if we did there ain't a whole lot we can do.
While emotionally, historically, morally even it is OUR club, legally and financially it is theirs.

[multisync1830]

'We' own none of the land. We also own none of the stadium, the players or the training ground.
They are all owned 100% by the 3 wealthy Thais. There is no obligation on their part to invest any of the money back into the club.
Under SJM a small number of people owned shares in addition to him, but he was by a huge distance the majority shareholder so had complete power, which he exercised pretty favourably to the club.
So far the Thais seem very keen to back the club, but there is no cast iron guarantee this would continue. I suspect they could fund the development by loading the club with debt and then take all the profits.
Equally they could use the development to continue developing the club.
We really don't know and even if we did there ain't a whole lot we can do.
While emotionally, historically, morally even it is OUR club, legally and financially it is theirs.

There is a whiff around that this has strong potential to end in tears for RFC but not the Thai's. Once the development has been fully completed (Hogwood inc) then the team becomes an unnecessary burden and the chances of the investment paying for itself plus the funding the club is more difficult unless the TV money balances the books. If in the PL then the numbers make sense. The kudos of owning a PL club to a far Eastern company is very attractive. It allows them to showcase other aspects of the various business interests and becomes a great place for entertaining the movers and shakers. RFC V ManU =" yes please anytime". RFC v Preston = "hmm Tuesday is difficult"


On the subject of the 'three rich Thai's' . If that's the case why is this man seen around the club so much

[Royal Lady]

As great as it looks, I am very concerned that the whole point of buying the club was to develop the land around it as that is where they will make money. Apparently, it's going to cost £200 million??? I believe that if they get the planning permission, once this has gone ahead and they have sold units/houses or receive large rental for the concert venue etc, they will move on to other things.

This is why they use Sasima as a front woman, we all know she knows very little about football - they are all in it for the land, as was suggested by a few people in the beginning. Be careful what you wish for.