England - the future....

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by Simmops » 29 Jun 2021 20:18

WE ARE GOING TO WIN IT

JUST PUT 200 ON IT!

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by Franchise FC » 29 Jun 2021 20:24

My quick review :
Pickford - calm assured and one very good and one world class save
Walker - back three worked very well and the fact that there’s nothing negative to say speaks volumes
Stones - see Walker and hardly heard his name at all which is usually good for a defender
Maguire - apart from the missed header was imperious, and that’s why he’s in despite the good performances from Mings
Trippier - a little quieter than I’d have liked but solid
Shaw - got better and better and massively involved in both goals
Rice - still not much going forward but does the job he’s being asked to do
Phillips - see Rice, almost word for word
Saka - what can I say that the commentators didn’t. Was excellent and was surprised to see him substituted
Kane - did virtually nothing until a touch in the run up to the first and then scoring. How can you leave him out ?
Sterling - I don’t like him as a player and would not have picked him at all. Shows what I know as, despite a few moments still giving the ball away, he was integral to the win and the burst to start the first was exceptional
Henderson - just did what was required, which is all we needed
Grealish - some real quality touches, a few dodgy ones and an assist. Must frighten teams with tired defenders to see him coming on

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by genome » 29 Jun 2021 20:34



Everywhere you look this photo gets better.

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by Simmops » 29 Jun 2021 20:47

genome

Everywhere you look this photo gets better.

Agreed

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Re: England - the future....

by 6ft Kerplunk » 29 Jun 2021 20:53

Snowflake Royal Is Southgate the first England manager to make two QFs?

Bobby Robson took them the QF in 86 and SF in 90.


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by Mr Angry » 29 Jun 2021 20:56

6ft Kerplunk
Snowflake Royal Is Southgate the first England manager to make two QFs?

Bobby Robson took them the QF in 86 and SF in 90.


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by genome » 29 Jun 2021 20:57



These photos :lol: absolute pandemonium

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by Royal Rother » 29 Jun 2021 21:28

Can’t say I enjoyed the performance much but it worked so fair play to Southgate.

There has to be something wrong with Kane, he was awful again.

There must be a story behind Calvert Lewin’s absence. Made zero sense to leave him out when your main striker is so obviously struggling. I mean we had 2 keepers on the bench, 2 CDs but no back up striker - discounting Rashford there I know but he isn’t really a striker any more is he?

If we are going to get to the final I’d like to see us do it with a bit of style and swagger - I think we have the players to do that but the team Southgate seems to prefer isn’t capable of doing that. But of course, zero goals conceded is what it’s all being built on and that is very impressive.

Walker was excellent defensively but exasperated me by going backwards so often when in the opposition’s half.

Pickford has been a revelation this tournament - looks like a top keeper now. Very pleased for him after all the negativity that has come his way in the last couple of years.

Sterling was ok - pretty decent in patches, just wish he’d drive forward more often; things happen when he pushes through the middle. The shot of him after Mueller missed that opportunity made me a tiny bit emotional. The relief...!!

Grealish assisted one and had a big hand in the other by quickly moving the ball on to Shaw. Personally I think he can do that for 90 mins, not just 20 or 30, but if the formula works I suppose Southgate will keep doing it.

Great result, pretty solid performance, but hardly inspiring - and really Germany were very poor. After their game v Portugal I thought they were going to really push on but thankfully that was the flash in the pan.

Onwards and upwards? Let’s hope so.

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Re: England - the future....

by Brogue » 29 Jun 2021 21:34

Great stuff :lol: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... s-england/

For once it wasn’t us doing this


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Re: England - the future....

by Winston Biscuit » 29 Jun 2021 21:41

Just remembered Walker stylishly chesting it to a team mate from a long range pass

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by Hendo » 29 Jun 2021 21:50

Royal Rother Can’t say I enjoyed the performance much but it worked so fair play to Southgate.

There has to be something wrong with Kane, he was awful again.

There must be a story behind Calvert Lewin’s absence. Made zero sense to leave him out when your main striker is so obviously struggling. I mean we had 2 keepers on the bench, 2 CDs but no back up striker - discounting Rashford there I know but he isn’t really a striker any more is he?

If we are going to get to the final I’d like to see us do it with a bit of style and swagger - I think we have the players to do that but the team Southgate seems to prefer isn’t capable of doing that. But of course, zero goals conceded is what it’s all being built on and that is very impressive.

Walker was excellent defensively but exasperated me by going backwards so often when in the opposition’s half.

Pickford has been a revelation this tournament - looks like a top keeper now. Very pleased for him after all the negativity that has come his way in the last couple of years.

Sterling was ok - pretty decent in patches, just wish he’d drive forward more often; things happen when he pushes through the middle. The shot of him after Mueller missed that opportunity made me a tiny bit emotional. The relief...!!

Grealish assisted one and had a big hand in the other by quickly moving the ball on to Shaw. Personally I think he can do that for 90 mins, not just 20 or 30, but if the formula works I suppose Southgate will keep doing it.

Great result, pretty solid performance, but hardly inspiring - and really Germany were very poor. After their game v Portugal I thought they were going to really push on but thankfully that was the flash in the pan.

Onwards and upwards? Let’s hope so.


I hate to nitpick (ah who am I kidding, I oxf*rd love it) but on the 2 GKs on the bench, it’s a UEFA rule every team has to have 2 ‘keepers on the bench.

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by NathStPaul » 29 Jun 2021 22:31

You have no idea how happy I am that we are going to be playing Ukraine.

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by BR0B0T » 29 Jun 2021 22:45

NathStPaul You have no idea how happy I am that we are going to be playing Ukraine.


Uke better wind his neck in


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Re: England - the future....

by NathStPaul » 30 Jun 2021 07:04

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NathStPaul You have no idea how happy I am that we are going to be playing Ukraine.


Uke better wind his neck in


Ebatʹ yikh i ebatʹ yikh materiv!

You need to find a list of famous Ukranians to insult after we beat them.

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by Royal Rother » 30 Jun 2021 07:25

Hendo
Royal Rother Can’t say I enjoyed the performance much but it worked so fair play to Southgate.

There has to be something wrong with Kane, he was awful again.

There must be a story behind Calvert Lewin’s absence. Made zero sense to leave him out when your main striker is so obviously struggling. I mean we had 2 keepers on the bench, 2 CDs but no back up striker - discounting Rashford there I know but he isn’t really a striker any more is he?

If we are going to get to the final I’d like to see us do it with a bit of style and swagger - I think we have the players to do that but the team Southgate seems to prefer isn’t capable of doing that. But of course, zero goals conceded is what it’s all being built on and that is very impressive.

Walker was excellent defensively but exasperated me by going backwards so often when in the opposition’s half.

Pickford has been a revelation this tournament - looks like a top keeper now. Very pleased for him after all the negativity that has come his way in the last couple of years.

Sterling was ok - pretty decent in patches, just wish he’d drive forward more often; things happen when he pushes through the middle. The shot of him after Mueller missed that opportunity made me a tiny bit emotional. The relief...!!

Grealish assisted one and had a big hand in the other by quickly moving the ball on to Shaw. Personally I think he can do that for 90 mins, not just 20 or 30, but if the formula works I suppose Southgate will keep doing it.

Great result, pretty solid performance, but hardly inspiring - and really Germany were very poor. After their game v Portugal I thought they were going to really push on but thankfully that was the flash in the pan.

Onwards and upwards? Let’s hope so.


I hate to nitpick (ah who am I kidding, I oxf*rd love it) but on the 2 GKs on the bench, it’s a UEFA rule every team has to have 2 ‘keepers on the bench.


I did not know that.

Why? What’s it got to do with UEFA?

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Re: England - the future....

by Hendo » 30 Jun 2021 07:28

Royal Rother
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Royal Rother Can’t say I enjoyed the performance much but it worked so fair play to Southgate.

There has to be something wrong with Kane, he was awful again.

There must be a story behind Calvert Lewin’s absence. Made zero sense to leave him out when your main striker is so obviously struggling. I mean we had 2 keepers on the bench, 2 CDs but no back up striker - discounting Rashford there I know but he isn’t really a striker any more is he?

If we are going to get to the final I’d like to see us do it with a bit of style and swagger - I think we have the players to do that but the team Southgate seems to prefer isn’t capable of doing that. But of course, zero goals conceded is what it’s all being built on and that is very impressive.

Walker was excellent defensively but exasperated me by going backwards so often when in the opposition’s half.

Pickford has been a revelation this tournament - looks like a top keeper now. Very pleased for him after all the negativity that has come his way in the last couple of years.

Sterling was ok - pretty decent in patches, just wish he’d drive forward more often; things happen when he pushes through the middle. The shot of him after Mueller missed that opportunity made me a tiny bit emotional. The relief...!!

Grealish assisted one and had a big hand in the other by quickly moving the ball on to Shaw. Personally I think he can do that for 90 mins, not just 20 or 30, but if the formula works I suppose Southgate will keep doing it.

Great result, pretty solid performance, but hardly inspiring - and really Germany were very poor. After their game v Portugal I thought they were going to really push on but thankfully that was the flash in the pan.

Onwards and upwards? Let’s hope so.


I hate to nitpick (ah who am I kidding, I oxf*rd love it) but on the 2 GKs on the bench, it’s a UEFA rule every team has to have 2 ‘keepers on the bench.


I did not know that.

Why? What’s it got to do with UEFA?


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/theathletic.com/news/england-goalkeepers-bench-sancho-chilwell/GjuSA2YGRGdy%3famp=1

England manager Gareth Southgate was compelled to name two goalkeepers on his bench for his side’s Euro 2020 Group D opener against Croatia.

Both Sam Johnstone and Dean Henderson formed part of the match-day squad, which meant outfield duo Jadon Sancho and Ben Chilwell missed out.

Do managers have to name two goalkeepers on the bench?
Quite simply, yes.

When it was announced that national team managers could pick a 26-man squad for this summer’s Euro 2020 tournament, it remained a requirement that three goalkeepers had to be included in the match-day squad, which is only 23 players strong.

The Three Lions manager is free to pick whoever he wants as part of his match-day squad aside from the requirements around goalkeepers.

What do the rules say?
Article 43.01 from UEFA’s match procedures section, stipulates that “each team shall indicate in the relevant match sheet the numbers, full names, dates of birth and, if applicable, shirt names of the 23 players in the squad”.

UEFA goes on to state in Article 43.02 that “the players’ shirts must correspond with the numbers on the match sheet, on which the goalkeepers and team captain must also be identified”.

When the governing body release details about expanding the overall squad size to 26 players, it explained that there can be a “maximum of 12 substitutes, including three goalkeepers (in the 23-man squad)”.

What about at previous tournaments?
In previous tournaments, managers have also had to name three goalkeepers in their 23-man match-day squad.

Does picking two back-up goalkeepers make sense?
Of all the positions on the pitch, managers won’t want to find themselves in a situation where an outfield player has to go in goal because of a crisis in between the sticks.

While it may seem far-fetched, it isn’t inconceivable that both a goalkeeper and his back-up could be sent off or suffer an injury over the course of 90 minutes.

If that scenario played out, then having a third goalkeeper in the match-day squad provides an element of comfort, despite the chances of them actually playing being relatively slim.

Another point to consider is that goalkeepers tend to warm up in groups of three ahead of a match, which could also be part of the manager’s thinking.

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Re: England - the future....

by Winston Biscuit » 30 Jun 2021 08:11

James McLean



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by NathStPaul » 30 Jun 2021 08:14

Winston Biscuit James McLean



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He will of course do his annual crying in November when he gets booed by English supporters. What a prick.

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Re: England - the future....

by Sanguine » 30 Jun 2021 08:33

Snowflake Royal Is Southgate the first England manager to make two QFs?


He'd certainly be the first to make two SFs, but I think you're actually right on this.

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Re: England - the future....

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Jun 2021 08:34

Mr Angry
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Snowflake Royal Is Southgate the first England manager to make two QFs?

Bobby Robson took them the QF in 86 and SF in 90.


Alf Ramsey: World Cup - Final 66, QF 70; Euro's - 3rd Place 68

Cheers

Cheers... 68 isn't going to count in my book, back then only 4 teams got invited!
So btb world cups for 2, but not btb tournaments

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