England - the future....

[Sanguine]

Well, where did that come from?

Credit where it's due, one of our best performances in recent memory, and certainly our best away performance for a long time. Very, very good. Madueke always underwhelms me for Chelsea and now Arsenal - but just seems like an international player. Rogers fit in to the side very well too. And in Anderson and Wharton (when fit) we've got two very exciting central midfielders.

[Royal Rother]

Well, that was very good.

An England performance to enjoy!

Anderson is so good for the team - very impressive.

[From Despair To Where?]

There will of course be a clamour to bring Bellingham back but I think he disrupts the balance of the team.

Don't want to go overboard on one performance but of the big names that are missing, Saka is the only one I'd say walks straight back into the starting XI.

[stealthpapes]

BBC saying England need 5 points to be sure. No idea who’s correct.

lol.

[Royal Rother]

There will of course be a clamour to bring Bellingham back but I think he disrupts the balance of the team.

Agreed, and, good though he is, he's got far too much billy big bollocks attitude these days.

[stealthpapes]

At least [Serbia] should take the game to England so we might not get another round of “boreball”.

It's probably worth spending a moment of time on just how bad Serbia were. At times they had flat back six, just no intention in the first half to do anything constructive. A really flat and uninspired performance.

There's a fair bit going on in Serbia right now - riots throughout the year, sparked by the deaths of over a dozen when a railway station collapsed.

[WestYorksRoyal]

There will of course be a clamour to bring Bellingham back but I think he disrupts the balance of the team.

Don't want to go overboard on one performance but of the big names that are missing, Saka is the only one I'd say walks straight back into the starting XI.

Can Madueke play LW too? As I think he was great. I rate Gordon too. Just pick a genuine wide player and not Foden or Palmer drifting inside. Madueke or Gordon are fine, or Rashford if he does well at Barcelona. But agree Saka has the RW spot sewn up.

[From Despair To Where?]

There will of course be a clamour to bring Bellingham back but I think he disrupts the balance of the team.

Agreed, and, good though he is, he's got far too much billy big bollocks attitude these days.

To me it's the old Lampard/Scholes/ Gerrard conundrum again. How do you accommodate all three. Simple answer is you don't, you pick whoever best suits the system.

Going back even further, Glenn Hoddle. Undoubtedly a great player but how do you fit him into the system without oxf*rd it up?

Foden's been dreadfully out of form for 15 months and, for me, Palmer is way too inconsistent to be a regular starter.

I just think Rice brings more to the system than Bellingham and, as you say, doesn't bring the attitude with him.

[Royal Rother]

There will of course be a clamour to bring Bellingham back but I think he disrupts the balance of the team.

Agreed, and, good though he is, he's got far too much billy big bollocks attitude these days.

To me it's the old Lampard/Scholes/ Gerrard conundrum again. How do you accommodate all three. Simple answer is you don't, you pick whoever best suits the system.

Going back even further, Glenn Hoddle. Undoubtedly a great player but how do you fit him into the system without oxf*rd it up?

Foden's been dreadfully out of form for 15 months and, for me, Palmer is way too inconsistent to be a regular starter.

I just think Rice brings more to the system than Bellingham and, as you say, doesn't bring the attitude with him.

Kane is the conundrum for me.

Is playing him as someone who can score goals but is very very slow going to blunt our potential against the best teams? In my opinion it has and will continue to do so.

Lovely header to score yesterday of course, but that is the sort of goal Bellingham scores. I appreciate the latter is not a CF, but, despite not being a fan of the bloke, with goal potential from elsewhere, would we be a better unit with him as a false No 9 than Kane who is hardly playing as a proper CF now? Did he have a shot apart from the headed goal yesterday?

Probably too late to try it now, but I think Bellingham is capable of making runs that would create space for others in a way that Kane just can't, and might be better for the team as a whole.

Shoot me down.

[Sutekh]

Agreed, and, good though he is, he's got far too much billy big bollocks attitude these days.

To me it's the old Lampard/Scholes/ Gerrard conundrum again. How do you accommodate all three. Simple answer is you don't, you pick whoever best suits the system.

Going back even further, Glenn Hoddle. Undoubtedly a great player but how do you fit him into the system without oxf*rd it up?

Foden's been dreadfully out of form for 15 months and, for me, Palmer is way too inconsistent to be a regular starter.

I just think Rice brings more to the system than Bellingham and, as you say, doesn't bring the attitude with him.

Kane is the conundrum for me.

Is playing him as someone who can score goals but is very very slow going to blunt our potential against the best teams? In my opinion it has and will continue to do so.

Lovely header to score yesterday of course, but that is the sort of goal Bellingham scores. I appreciate the latter is not a CF, but, despite not being a fan of the bloke, with goal potential from elsewhere, would we be a better unit with him as a false No 9 than Kane who is hardly playing as a proper CF now? Did he have a shot apart from the headed goal yesterday?

Probably too late to try it now, but I think Bellingham is capable of making runs that would create space for others in a way that Kane just can't, and might be better for the team as a whole.

Shoot me down.

No, it's something that's worth a try. Is Bellingham likely to be playing again by the time the Wales games comes round in October?

[From Despair To Where?]

Agreed, and, good though he is, he's got far too much billy big bollocks attitude these days.

To me it's the old Lampard/Scholes/ Gerrard conundrum again. How do you accommodate all three. Simple answer is you don't, you pick whoever best suits the system.

Going back even further, Glenn Hoddle. Undoubtedly a great player but how do you fit him into the system without oxf*rd it up?

Foden's been dreadfully out of form for 15 months and, for me, Palmer is way too inconsistent to be a regular starter.

I just think Rice brings more to the system than Bellingham and, as you say, doesn't bring the attitude with him.

Kane is the conundrum for me.

Is playing him as someone who can score goals but is very very slow going to blunt our potential against the best teams? In my opinion it has and will continue to do so.

Lovely header to score yesterday of course, but that is the sort of goal Bellingham scores. I appreciate the latter is not a CF, but, despite not being a fan of the bloke, with goal potential from elsewhere, would we be a better unit with him as a false No 9 than Kane who is hardly playing as a proper CF now? Did he have a shot apart from the headed goal yesterday?

Probably too late to try it now, but I think Bellingham is capable of making runs that would create space for others in a way that Kane just can't, and might be better for the team as a whole.

Shoot me down.

I think it's a suggestion that has merit. Yes he's a dick but has undoubted quality and has a nack of scoring crucial goals, particularly in clutch situations, something that Kane hasn't done consistently enough IMO.

Kane's goalscoring form has also dropped off for England in the past 4 years. from 0.88 goals per game up to 2021 to 0.61 since 2022.

[Winston Biscuit]

Kane's goalscoring form has also dropped off for England in the past 4 years. from 0.88 goals per game up to 2021 to 0.61 since 2022.

isn't that just a particularly good 2021 skewing that?