we've got three and a half sides now...

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by Royal With Cheese » 27 Apr 2013 22:08

And once again the over-extending of a clubs finances to build a dream stadium come crashing around them.

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by SLAMMED » 27 Apr 2013 22:10

:lol:

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by AthleticoSpizz » 27 Apr 2013 22:22

Royal With Cheese And once again the over-extending of a clubs finances to build a dream stadium come crashing around them.
has that happened yet?

Shots average crowds were bigger in the Conference

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by AthleticoSpizz » 27 Apr 2013 22:22

SLAMMED :lol:
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by peterroyal76 » 01 May 2013 17:40

Shouldn't this be in the non-league thread?

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by Divvy » 01 May 2013 18:05

Who paid for the new stand when the club can't afford to pay it's players wages?

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by frimmers3 » 01 May 2013 18:10

Divvy Who paid for the new stand when the club can't afford to pay it's players wages?


it was funded mainly the fans of the club. it is a community stand.

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by Alexander Litvinenko » 01 May 2013 18:22

The tragedy is that the fans did so much to rescue the club, then handed over to a businessman to "take them to the next level" - and the next level is financial oblivion.


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by Divvy » 01 May 2013 18:26

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Divvy Who paid for the new stand when the club can't afford to pay it's players wages?


it was funded mainly the fans of the club. it is a community stand.


But it wasn't needed due to falling attendances. It's great they clubbed together and all, but there are clearly more important things to put some money towards.

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by Terminal Boardom » 02 May 2013 02:25

What a dreadful state of affairs. And now, the players have not been paid. seems like the lessons of 20 plus years ago have all been ignored. Shambles.

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by Alexander Litvinenko » 02 May 2013 10:30

Terminal Boardom What a dreadful state of affairs. And now, the players have not been paid. seems like the lessons of 20 plus years ago have all been ignored. Shambles.


Its the whole way football's finances are structured that leads to it. Teams commit to s certain level of expenditure, and think "if we go down we're oxf*rd."

So as soon as they start to be in trouble they look at the situation and think "Our only hope is not going down - we'll only not go down if we spend. We may not be able to repay it, but the alternative is relegation and we'll definitely go bust if we're relegates, so what difference does it make?"

then when they've spent the money *and* still been relegated, the crash is twice as bad - but if they know they're going to go bust anyway they might as well go bust for a big sum as a small one.

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by Big Foot » 02 May 2013 11:27

Alexander Litvinenko The tragedy is that the fans did so much to rescue the club, then handed over to a businessman to "take them to the next level" - and the next level is financial oblivion.

Tragedy? Surely you mean hilarity?


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by YateleyRoyal » 02 May 2013 13:48

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by LUX » 02 May 2013 14:30

I'm very much in the "Aldershot are our only mutual rivals" camp. It's always annoyed me when they win (pretty sad, I know) and would actively follow their results to check that they do not get promoted/get into the play-offs.

But there are limits to this petty dislike. I found to my surprise that I wanted them to stay up on the last day of the season........................and I certainly do not want them to fold.

OTOH I did enjoy Oxford going non-league a few years ago.

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by Cobi » 02 May 2013 15:17

LUX I'm very much in the "Aldershot are our only mutual rivals" camp. It's always annoyed me when they win (pretty sad, I know) and would actively follow their results to check that they do not get promoted/get into the play-offs.

But there are limits to this petty dislike. I found to my surprise that I wanted them to stay up on the last day of the season........................and I certainly do not want them to fold.

OTOH I did enjoy Oxford going non-league a few years ago.


Agree with that. I'd rather have them in the league and have a chance of meeting them in the cups than seeing them go bust or suffer in non-league.

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by LoyalRoyalFan » 02 May 2013 15:44

Shouldn't have built that MASSIVE new stand.

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by On High » 02 May 2013 16:00

Cobi
LUX I'm very much in the "Aldershot are our only mutual rivals" camp. It's always annoyed me when they win (pretty sad, I know) and would actively follow their results to check that they do not get promoted/get into the play-offs.

But there are limits to this petty dislike. I found to my surprise that I wanted them to stay up on the last day of the season........................and I certainly do not want them to fold.

OTOH I did enjoy Oxford going non-league a few years ago.


Agree with that. I'd rather have them in the league and have a chance of meeting them in the cups than seeing them go bust or suffer in non-league.


Quite, you can't have any sort of rivalry with a folded club.

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by Wax Jacket » 02 May 2013 16:21

football in the area is definitely stronger for having the Shots at as high a level as possible BUT they got relegated fair and square and not many fans went to try and help them out of it.

for all that they're a phoenix club and haven't been around to enjoy the changes in football in the last 20 years, you can't help but think that it's a club that football's left behind a little. I wonder if they'd have better crowds if Chelsea were still getting 25,000 and Reading 8,000 for instance.

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by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 02 May 2013 21:19

Wax Jacket football in the area is definitely stronger for having the Shots at as high a level as possible BUT they got relegated fair and square and not many fans went to try and help them out of it.

for all that they're a phoenix club and haven't been around to enjoy the changes in football in the last 20 years, you can't help but think that it's a club that football's left behind a little. I wonder if they'd have better crowds if Chelsea were still getting 25,000 and Reading 8,000 for instance.


I doubt there are too many Reading fans in the area. Chelsea probably attract the sort of fans who wouldn't have gone to watch fourth division football anyway.

The odd thing is, although Aldershot itself is quite a small town, there's a pretty decent catchment area around if they ever gave any impression of having ambition. As quaint a time capsule of a ground as The Rec might be (ignoring the fact that two sides of it are dreadful) it could certainly do with a bit of modernising to bring in more cash, an maybe even fans.

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