John Terry

[watfordroyal]

Anyone else find this a big waste of our taxes?
How much is this court case costing with all the policing etc. £100K+? for what? a max £2.5k fine

And what was unfactual about what ferdinand was called,
F - I take it he's not a virgin,
B - He would call himself black,
C - Without checking his genital status, this is possibly untrue, but it maybe he resembles one to some opinions!

Should never have gone to court!

[PistolPete]

Anyone else find this a big waste of our taxes?
How much is this court case costing with all the policing etc. £100K+? for what? a max £2.5k fine

And what was unfactual about what ferdinand was called,
F - I take it he's not a virgin,
B - He would call himself black,
C - Without checking his genital status, this is possibly untrue, but it maybe he resembles one to some opinions!

Should never have gone to court!

No, it's not a waste. In isolation it's a waste, but it's the principle of what the case stands and it's trickle down consequences that are important. If (if) Terry is found guilt and therefore stripped of Chelsea captaincy, dropped from the England team and loses his lucrative endorsements, people in this country will realise that racially aggravated behaviour will not not accepted by society. Countries like Spain too often turn a blind eye and subsequently overt and and concealed levels of racism still exist. It is precisely because britain follows up high profile cases like this in the courts that we are one of the most racially tolerant countries in europe/the world.

[Wax Jacket]

Anyone else find this a big waste of our taxes?
How much is this court case costing with all the policing etc. £100K+? for what? a max £2.5k fine

And what was unfactual about what ferdinand was called,
F - I take it he's not a virgin,
B - He would call himself black,
C - Without checking his genital status, this is possibly untrue, but it maybe he resembles one to some opinions!

Should never have gone to court!

lol

let me guess, you're a tabloid reader

[Maguire]

I guess the thing I don't like about it is that Terry doesn't get equal treatment under the law because of who he is. Previous poster has basically said it's an important case because Terry can be made an example of if found guilty.

[cmonurz]

Any claims that Terry has suffered because of who he is have to be tempered against the case having been delayed so he could focus on kicking a football around a field.

[who are ya?]

Why did Doreen Lawrence feel the need to turn up to this yesterday?

[Extended-Phenotype]

B - He would call himself black,

Are you saying John Terry is merely describing Anton to himself? Or that perhaps the prefix of his insult is complimentary? JT could have equally said "you hard working ambassador for a sports development charity c/nt." No?

Then as you are clearly stupid you won't mind me calling you a thick f/ck, then.

[Silver Fox]

Why did Doreen Lawrence feel the need to turn up to this yesterday?

Is it because she's a high profile anti racism campaigner?

[who are ya?]

Maybe it's what Stephen would have wanted

[TBM]

In all honesty, if Ferdinand shouted "fcuk off you white pcunt" at Terry - despite it being true, would he be up on race charges?!

[who are ya?]

And if it went to court, would Doreen Lawrence turn up

[Hoop Blah]

Any claims that Terry has suffered because of who he is have to be tempered against the case having been delayed so he could focus on kicking a football around a field.

Isn't it actually pretty normal practise for these kind of cases to be moved around to suit employment situations etc though? I'm sure this was discussed at the time and it was shown to be quite normal really.

[cmonurz]

Any claims that Terry has suffered because of who he is have to be tempered against the case having been delayed so he could focus on kicking a football around a field.

Isn't it actually pretty normal practise for these kind of cases to be moved around to suit employment situations etc though? I'm sure this was discussed at the time and it was shown to be quite normal really.

Ah fair enough, I didn't realise that. At least when I go down I can fit it around quarter-end.

[KDRF]

who the fcuk is doreen lawrence?

[No Fixed Abode]

In all honesty, if Ferdinand shouted "fcuk off you white pcunt" at Terry - despite it being true, would he be up on race charges?!

No he wouldn't.

Just impose a fine and ban Terry for 8 games. Job done.

[Extended-Phenotype]

In all honesty, if Ferdinand shouted "fcuk off you white pcunt" at Terry - despite it being true, would he be up on race charges?!

It’s a common perceived double-standard, but in all honesty insulting someone for being white doesn’t carry the same historical weight of terror, violence, murder, enslavement and injustice as the black tag.

In the same context, my Hindu friend could explain to you how an insult such as ‘P*ki’ is far more than just a word. It’s a violent term which conjures memories of vicious bullying, fear and significance which rips through her family history. As hard as it seems for those from dominant groups to understand, It’s a difficult insult to shrug off for those in groups which have suffered persecution.

Hope this helps.

[Focher]

i got called 'whitey' by a black man in the College Arms, you didn't see me crying to the police. I just said to him 'fuck off chimney', and all was forgotten.

[The Rouge]

Ahhh NFA, TBM and Focher.... - the defence of the mildly racist wheeled out expertly.

[Maguire]

in all honesty insulting someone for being white doesn’t carry the same historical weight of terror, violence, murder, enslavement and injustice as the black tag

This is the crux of it.

Although, not sure Anton Ferdinand's ever suffered any of that so i'm not sure how genuinely upsetting he'd find it.