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Re: CheLOLsea

by paultheroyal » 30 Aug 2016 21:30

Luis to return?

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Re: CheLOLsea

by From Despair To Where? » 31 Aug 2016 07:34

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prostak Bit old now, but - best fans in the world.


Total LOL fest. The average age of the board members must be 11. Is that their main chat forum ?


Is Kes the one with the "Josh McEachran, a star is born at the Bridge" signature?

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Re: CheLOLsea

by No Fixed Abode » 31 Aug 2016 08:57

paultheroyal Luis to return?


Do you mean David Luiz?

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Re: CheLOLsea

by Silver Fox » 31 Aug 2016 08:58

I think you actually mean David LOLuiz

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Re: CheLOLsea

by LUX » 31 Aug 2016 09:06

he's just a wannabe Aaron Kuhl


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Re: CheLOLsea

by No Fixed Abode » 31 Aug 2016 09:30

Silver Fox I think you actually mean David LOLuiz


Champions LOLeague Winner 8)

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by Hendo » 31 Aug 2016 12:14

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Silver Fox I think you actually mean David LOLuiz


Champions LOLeague Winner 8)


Aye, but so is DJIMI TRAORE.

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by No Fixed Abode » 31 Aug 2016 12:27

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Silver Fox I think you actually mean David LOLuiz


Champions LOLeague Winner 8)


Aye, but so is DJIMI TRAORE.


And Ross Turnbull. (He's won more than you (Reading FC) - Ross Turnbull, he's won more than you)

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by Hendo » 31 Aug 2016 12:30

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Aye, but so is DJIMI TRAORE.


And Ross Turnbull. (He's won more than you (Reading FC) - Ross Turnbull, he's won more than you)


I am glad we have come to the conclusion you don't need to be a good player to win the champions league.


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Re: CheLOLsea

by No Fixed Abode » 31 Aug 2016 13:01

Luiz was an integral part of the 2012 CL winning team for Chelsea.

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Re: CheLOLsea

by No Fixed Abode » 31 Aug 2016 17:03

CHELSEA SIGN MARCOS ALONSO FROM FIORENTINA.

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Re: CheLOLsea

by genome » 31 Aug 2016 19:47

I like Luiz.

Players like him are what makes football fun to watch.

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Re: CheLOLsea

by No Fixed Abode » 31 Aug 2016 20:36

Nothing confirmed on Luiz.

But his Facebook page has changed.......

https://www.facebook.com/DavidLuizOfficial/?fref=ts



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Re: CheLOLsea

by NewCorkSeth » 31 Aug 2016 20:40

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Chelsea striker Patrick Bamford has joined Burnley on a season-long loan.
The 22-year-old has not featured for the Blues since joining them from Nottingham Forest in January 2012.
The England Under-21 man has had loans with MK Dons, Derby, Middlesbrough, Crystal Palace and Norwich.


Why do CheLOLsea keep hold of these players? Utterly pointless that they hold his contract when he will never EVER play for the first team. Fancy your career being a series of loan moves. Unbelievable.


Thought exactly that earlier - and in addition, he has shown in that series of loan moves to be nowhere near the required level. What a waste of a career.

Isn't Victor Moses kinda proving this wrong this season?

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by From Despair To Where? » 31 Aug 2016 23:47

Do all Chelsea signings get a prostate exam as part of their medical or just David Luiz?

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Re: CheLOLsea

by Sanguine » 01 Sep 2016 08:47

NewCorkSeth Isn't Victor Moses kinda proving this wrong this season?


Or the exception to the rule. Remains to be seen whether he remains a fixture in their team. Good on him for forcing his way in and he has obviously impressed Conte so far this season.

The likes of Hector must wonder what the future holds though. He gets sent out to Frankfurt, Miazga out on loan too - and they sign Luiz and Alonso in his position.

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Re: CheLOLsea

by NewCorkSeth » 01 Sep 2016 09:26

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NewCorkSeth Isn't Victor Moses kinda proving this wrong this season?


Or the exception to the rule. Remains to be seen whether he remains a fixture in their team. Good on him for forcing his way in and he has obviously impressed Conte so far this season.

The likes of Hector must wonder what the future holds though. He gets sent out to Frankfurt, Miazga out on loan too - and they sign Luiz and Alonso in his position.

To be fair I dont think anyone will say Hector is a Champions League level footballer.. Has anyone figured out why they even signed him?
We all know Chelsea is a mess of a club they have close to 40 players out on loan and maybe 5 of those are good enough for the first team..
I assume Kes has greater insight to these 40ish players who have maybe made 50 first team appearances between them?

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Re: CheLOLsea

by Sanguine » 01 Sep 2016 10:34

This is where I think the financial might of the big clubs needs to be regulated.
Chelsea have the financial capacity to vacuum up players of potential - or even middling players who have had a good season, like Hector.

Lucas Piazon has gone to Fulham, his 5th loan since joining Chelsea in 2012. He joins Tomas Kalas at Craven Cottage, who came to Chelsea in 2010 and has played four games for the club; he is on his 5th loan deal too. Miazga is 21, has played twice for Chelsea, and is farmed out to Vitesse. Christian Atsu was considered one of Africa's next stars when he signed in 2013, but he has never played for the club - also on his 5th loan deal. Nathan Ake is third loan - at least he's pulled on a blue shirt a few times.

It's good that these players are still getting a career (to an extent) and that their ownership by Chelsea hasn't stunted that. But they aren't benefiting from being a Chelsea player by means of their facilities or access to coaching - they are based with their loan side. These players should be playing at Fulham, Vitesse, Reading, Watford, wherever, as permanent signings - other clubs, not always the big ones, should see the benefits of such talent emerging.

The list of players on loan from City - Hart, Bony, Nasri, Mangala. Those four would walk into most teams in the league.

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by NewCorkSeth » 01 Sep 2016 10:49

Sanguine This is where I think the financial might of the big clubs needs to be regulated.
Chelsea have the financial capacity to vacuum up players of potential - or even middling players who have had a good season, like Hector.

Lucas Piazon has gone to Fulham, his 5th loan since joining Chelsea in 2012. He joins Tomas Kalas at Craven Cottage, who came to Chelsea in 2010 and has played four games for the club; he is on his 5th loan deal too. Miazga is 21, has played twice for Chelsea, and is farmed out to Vitesse. Christian Atsu was considered one of Africa's next stars when he signed in 2013, but he has never played for the club - also on his 5th loan deal. Nathan Ake is third loan - at least he's pulled on a blue shirt a few times.

It's good that these players are still getting a career (to an extent) and that their ownership by Chelsea hasn't stunted that. But they aren't benefiting from being a Chelsea player by means of their facilities or access to coaching - they are based with their loan side. These players should be playing at Fulham, Vitesse, Reading, Watford, wherever, as permanent signings - other clubs, not always the big ones, should see the benefits of such talent emerging.

The list of players on loan from City - Hart, Bony, Nasri, Mangala. Those four would walk into most teams in the league.

That is the key bit for me. How do you balance regular playing time with access to quality training with top coaches? Didnt Klopp call back a load of loanees last season as he thought they would be better served training under him?
I think if anything they bought Hector a season too early to know if he was any good.
The only thing I would say is the loan system works well for players whose quality you dont know. Championship clubs dont have to funds to gamble on players like Piazon. Imagine if Boro had signed Omeruo instead of loaning him? Hed be hard to sell and wouldnt really start for them.

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