Tribunal findings today - West Ham to pay Sheff Utd £30m?

[philM]

What does this mean in practical terms, WHEN do they have to PAY?

That'll be a long time away, if ever. First they have to go through an arbitration process and after that it will go on the books as a liability, and that will affect their bank/credit status. Then eventually they will either have to pay it, or go bust.

[Deadlock]

Looks like West Ham have decided to bung the Blunts a few quid to shut them up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 941657.stm

[Barry the bird boggler]

I wonder where WHU are finding 15million from, guess that must be next seasons tv money down the toilet already....

[gh7901]

What a massive, expensive mistake in West Ham's history, for something that must have seemed like a great deal at the time.
£5.5m fine, £15m compensation for having one season of a player

Then again, better than being relegated I guess

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

What a massive, expensive mistake in West Ham's history, for something that must have seemed like a great deal at the time.
£5.5m fine, £15m compensation for having one season of a player

Then again, better than being relegated I guess

Yeah about £40m better.

It's the Premier League who were at fault.

[Silver Fox]

Well, at least it's all been put right and ManYoo now own Tevez properly as their player, don't they?

[Dirk Gently]

It massively distorts the CCC next season, and gives Sheffield Utd a massive financial advantage over the other 23 clubs - none of whom have anything to do with this.

[Alan Partridge]

It massively distorts the CCC next season, and gives Sheffield Utd a massive financial advantage over the other 23 clubs - none of whom have anything to do with this.

I think it's just tough luck isn't it? Or are we supposed to kick off about it because it might affect Reading now?

FWIW I agree with you Dirkers, there's a far more ludicrous situation currently going on due to finances at Weymouth in the Conference 'totally distorting' the league giving other clubs a massive advantage. Likewise, none of them have anything to do with that situation.

[TheMaraudingDog]

There is nothing wrong with the payout in my mind, compo is just that, compo.

If I'm walking home tonight and some pisshead runs into me breaking my leg I'd expect some compo. This would be me at an advantage over the rest of you lot in the housing market. However, I'd have to put up with being on crutches for a few months - it's how compo works!

[Alivey]

Perhaps the teams that lost money for not being able to compete in Europe because of the behaviour of scousers should get some comp.. I am sure it would happen if it was today

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

Blades fans doubt they will spend much of this money.

McCabe's a right tight fook.

[Barry the bird boggler]

Next rumour is that Colin will launch a private claim agianst the Hammers for loss of earnings...

Oh I do hope West Ham go bust!

[Silver Fox]

Why?

Although I think the retort to your answer is MOVE ON!

[papereyes]

It massively distorts the CCC next season, and gives Sheffield Utd a massive financial advantage over the other 23 clubs - none of whom have anything to do with this.

Sorry but ... somewhat with aggro on this one.

[Dirk Gently]

It massively distorts the CCC next season, and gives Sheffield Utd a massive financial advantage over the other 23 clubs - none of whom have anything to do with this.

Sorry but ... somewhat with aggro on this one.

No need to apologise - in any case, it looks like the money is coming in instalments rather than in a single lump sum so the effect won't be so large, although it will last longer.

I was just trying to point out that because of WH's actions, Sheffield Utd have a financial advantage over the other 23 CCC clubs they're competing with for promotion and that the other 23 clubs have nothing to do with all of this.

And to answer TMD's metaphor, yes, you're right in principle, but it's more about the extent - the difference is magnified because Sheff Utd would be competing with only 23 clubs but a house buyer is competing with, potentially, thousands. In the same way, there are (usually!) thousands of houses on the market, whereas there are only 3 promotion places each year. So if Sheffield Utd get an external advantage to one of these, that reduced the changes for the other clubs from 3 in 24 to 2 in 23.

[Hoop Blah]

As you say it sounds like it's in installments over the next 5 years so not a massive impact, even though they can borrow and project revenue for that period so it will help. Spending that money wisely will be the big difference though, and it's certainly not a reason for them to go without the compensation.

Interesting that Warnock and the players are now supposedly lining up their own claims too.

They've all lost earnings because of it so I think they'd stand a good chance of getting something for themselves too.

[gh7901]

My beef with this has always been the fact that Sheff Utd are even entitled to compensation. No problem with West Ham being fined etc, or even being docked points/relegated, they did break the rules and gained an advantage.

I just cant see how it can be proven that West Ham WOULD have gone down if Tevez hadnt been playing for them. We all know that more than likely they would of, but how can you PROVE it. You could argue that some reserve team player, correctly registered, could have played and scored all the goals that Tevez did. We know that probably wouldnt have happened but you cant say with any certainty
I mean without all the fuss over Tevez, you could suggest West Ham may have won a few more games and been safe before the final day

Surely to claim compensation for something you need to have concrete proof? Its still my opinion that Sheff Utd got relegated because they were sh1t, if they had just won on the final day that season it didnt even matter what West ham were doing, they would have stayed up

[Baines]

Surely to claim compensation for something you need to have concrete proof?

No. "More likely than not" will suffice.

No problem with West Ham being fined etc, or even being docked points/relegated, they did break the rules and gained an advantage.

I just cant see how it can be proven that West Ham WOULD have gone down if Tevez hadnt been playing for them. We all know that more than likely they would of, but how can you PROVE it. You could argue that some reserve team player, correctly registered, could have played and scored all the goals that Tevez did. We know that probably wouldnt have happened but you cant say with any certainty

[papereyes]

If the FA hadn't have bottled it at the time, none of this would still be relevent.

They said "we should deduct points but we have 6 mitigations"

Each of the 6 reasons they gave to fine rather than deduct was pretty shoddy.

Any fine should have taken into account the possible revenues of the PL as opposed to the Championship.

They bottled it and for that reason, it is still being resolved.

[Silver Fox]

If the sheffield untied players and Colin all decide to get involved in this bunfest I do hope Danny Webber hasn't got the cheek to claim