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Re: Blackpool

by Nameless » 15 May 2015 16:01

Neither of those are going to happen.
Imagine hundreds of fans turning up with opposition tops 'just in case', then streaming out of the home areas and trying to pretend they are away fans !!

And replaying the game would not be expensive. Behind closed doors, midweek afternoon.
No stewards, no police, no floodlights.
Could have been done on the Monday after it was abandoned, but the 3-0 penalty would have been more logical any way.

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Re: Blackpool

by TBM » 15 May 2015 16:04

Nameless Neither of those are going to happen.
Imagine hundreds of fans turning up with opposition tops 'just in case', then streaming out of the home areas and trying to pretend they are away fans !!


Ok what about home fans doing a Blackpool to avoid a 4-0 defeat? - the logic that you automatically lose 3-0 if a game is called off is madness.

Nameless And replaying the game would not be expensive. Behind closed doors, midweek afternoon.
No stewards, no police, no floodlights.
Could have been done on the Monday after it was abandoned, but the 3-0 penalty would have been more logical any way.


What would replaying it really achieve though? - as already pointed out you don't get any more money for finishing 1 place higher in the league.

Just forget about the game and move on. I'm sure the league spoke to both Blackpool and Huddlesfield before making their decision.

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Re: Blackpool

by Winston Smith » 15 May 2015 16:07

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Nameless And replaying the game would not be expensive. Behind closed doors, midweek afternoon.
No stewards, no police, no floodlights.
Could have been done on the Monday after it was abandoned, but the 3-0 penalty would have been more logical any way.


What would replaying it really achieve though? - as already pointed out you don't get any more money for finishing 1 place higher in the league.

Just forget about the game and move on. I'm sure the league spoke to both Blackpool and Huddlesfield before making their decision.


Hudds chairman is pretty pissed off and has stated to the press that his club should get the 3-0 win.

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Re: Blackpool

by Nameless » 15 May 2015 16:44

Fans pretending to be from the other club is just stupid, so no real point commenting on that.

Why play the game ? It's called protecting the integrity of the competition. By your logic any game not involving a team that can get promoted or relegated may as well just be cancelled. The competition involves 46 games and probably for the first time ever there have been two teams who have not completed 46, and a dubious result.

The 3-0 punishment has been used in the league before so why they have not followed precedent I have no idea.

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Re: Blackpool

by TBM » 15 May 2015 16:46

At its meeting in London today, the Board of Directors of The Football League considered matters relating to the abandoned Sky Bet Championship match between Blackpool and Huddersfield Town on 2 May 2015.

The Board took the view that the 0-0 score-line that stood at the time of the game's abandonment (in the 48th minute) should be officially recorded as the final result of the match, as it believes that league points should always be earned on the field of play.

In addition, the Board agreed to charge Blackpool with failing to fulfil a fixture and the matter will be heard by a Football Disciplinary Commission in due course.

In making its judgment the FDC will be asked to consider any matters relating to compensation to Huddersfield Town and ticket refunds to supporters.

The Board also asked its executive to review the League's regulations regarding abandonments to ensure that any such matches can always be played to a conclusion or replayed altogether if deemed necessary.

Huddersfield Town’s Chief Executive Nigel Clibbens commented:

“Our final game of the season was played, and ended, in extraordinary circumstances, which nobody at Huddersfield Town wants to see happen again.

“The representations we made to the Football League on the matter of this game were carefully and properly considered by the Board. We strongly focused on the position of our supporters, who bought tickets for the match and travelled in good faith but didn’t see a full game through no fault of their own. We will now cooperate fully with the FDC and, until that process is complete, it's inappropriate to comment further on the matter of compensation.

“Now that the Football League has made its decision on the result, Huddersfield Town is looking to move on and continue preparations for the 2015/16 Championship season. It’s great we can do this on the back of a seven-match unbeaten run that has resulted in the Club’s best finishing league position for 15 years.”

Blackpool have been charged with a breach of regulation 31.1 which states, "Any Club failing to fulfil its fixture obligations in respect of any Match under the jurisdiction of The League on the appointed date, or dates, or causing the Board to suspend any fixture, shall be deemed guilty of misconduct, unless the circumstances giving rise to such failure are outside the control of the Club and could not have been reasonably foreseen or reasonably anticipated and remedied prior to the Match.”

Read more at http://www.htafc.com/news/article/hudde ... T7UWKDJ.99


So where are you all getting this 3-0 default win stuff coming from?


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Re: Blackpool

by Nameless » 15 May 2015 17:47

Their ruling contradicts itself.
The result hasn't been decided on the field of play, it's been decided in a court.
A game does not last 48 minutes.....
And by saying Blackpool are being charged with failing to fulfil a fixture they have effectively declared the game null and void.
I guess they just couldn't be bothered to come up with a logical decision !

If you check the Sheff Utd v WBA game that was abandoned because Warnock told his players to fake injuries (according to some at the time but later disputed) it was awarded as a 3-0 win to WBA, although by sheer coincidence that was the score when it was abandoned.....

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Re: Blackpool

by Mr Angry » 15 May 2015 17:54

That ruling makes no sense whatsoever; if the Board think that points should be earned on the pitch, then why not play the remaining 42 minutes of the game behind closed doors?

There have been precedents set before where a team has been awarded a win due to the abandonment of a game due to crowd trouble:

Denmark v Sweden, 2007 - score 3-3 in the 89th minute when Sweden awarded a penalty. A Danish fan ran onto the pitch and attacked the ref, who then abandoned the game. Sweden were awarded the game 3-0

Serbia v Albania, 2014 - score 0-0 when abandoned due to the Albanians refusing to play as the crowd were so hostile; Serbia awarded the game 3-0, then UEFA deducted them 3 points.

Italy v Serbia, 2012 - score 0-0 when abandoned after 7 minutes due to Serbian supporters throwing flares etc; Italy awarded the game 3-0

Russia v Montenegro, 2015 game abandoned after 67 minutes due to Montenegro fans throwing missiles which struck the Russian keeper; Russia awarded the game 3-0

Spot a pattern????

Even in Kenya, where a game was abandoned due to crowd trouble in 2014 in the 83rd minute with one team leading 1-0, that team were awarded a 3-0 victory.

Seems that only the Board of the Football League thinks differently.

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Re: Blackpool

by TBM » 15 May 2015 20:17

Mr Angry That ruling makes no sense whatsoever; if the Board think that points should be earned on the pitch, then why not play the remaining 42 minutes of the game behind closed doors?

There have been precedents set before where a team has been awarded a win due to the abandonment of a game due to crowd trouble:

Denmark v Sweden, 2007 - score 3-3 in the 89th minute when Sweden awarded a penalty. A Danish fan ran onto the pitch and attacked the ref, who then abandoned the game. Sweden were awarded the game 3-0

Serbia v Albania, 2014 - score 0-0 when abandoned due to the Albanians refusing to play as the crowd were so hostile; Serbia awarded the game 3-0, then UEFA deducted them 3 points.

Italy v Serbia, 2012 - score 0-0 when abandoned after 7 minutes due to Serbian supporters throwing flares etc; Italy awarded the game 3-0

Russia v Montenegro, 2015 game abandoned after 67 minutes due to Montenegro fans throwing missiles which struck the Russian keeper; Russia awarded the game 3-0

Spot a pattern????

Even in Kenya, where a game was abandoned due to crowd trouble in 2014 in the 83rd minute with one team leading 1-0, that team were awarded a 3-0 victory.

Seems that only the Board of the Football League thinks differently.


All this are international games though, where replaying the fixture would be more difficult. As said if this was mid season it would have been replayed - being a game that has no bearing on anything, it just doesn't seem worth replaying it.

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Re: Blackpool

by Sutekh » 16 May 2015 08:19

Blackburn v Middlesbrough in the PL a few years ago when Middlesbrough pleaded illness. Blackburn were awarded a 3-0 win.

The precedent should have been followed.


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Re: Blackpool

by Silver Fox » 16 May 2015 12:04

But apart from all these examples of teams being awarded 3-0 wins TBM's spot on yeah?

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Re: Blackpool

by TBM » 16 May 2015 16:35

Silver Fox But apart from all these examples of teams being awarded 3-0 wins TBM's spot on yeah?


I'm still waiting for someone to show me where a team in the Football League was awarded a 3-0 win....as, you know, they are the people deciding this

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Re: Blackpool

by Platypuss » 16 May 2015 16:55

The Sheffield United-WBA "Warnock" game was a FL game and was awarded 3-0 to WBA.

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Re: Blackpool

by handbags_harris » 16 May 2015 21:47

Sutekh Blackburn v Middlesbrough in the PL a few years ago when Middlesbrough pleaded illness. Blackburn were awarded a 3-0 win.

The precedent should have been followed.


Rewriting history there mate, Middlesbrough were docked 3 points for postponing the Ewood Park fixture in December 96. They rearranged the game eventually for May.

Wednesday 19 March 1997
Middlesbrough 2-1 Blackburn

Thursday 8 May 1997
Blackburn 0-0 Middlesbrough


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Re: Blackpool

by Dai Brainbocs » 21 May 2015 09:55

Amazing, Blackpool have released nearly all their players but they want to keep Nile Ranger. WTF?

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Re: Blackpool

by Pepe the Horseman » 21 May 2015 09:57

Lolz. They're surely nailed on to go down again next season.

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Re: Blackpool

by Winston Smith » 21 May 2015 10:26

Dai Brainbocs Amazing, Blackpool have released nearly all their players but they want to keep Nile Ranger. WTF?


Read some reports before that he is paid minimum wage by Blackpool, and as they were the only ones to offer him employment he took it.

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Re: Blackpool

by From Despair To Where? » 21 May 2015 12:46

Maybe his probation officer lives in Lytham

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Re: Blackpool

by 6ft Kerplunk » 21 May 2015 13:40

Maybe they just can't find him to be able to sack him.

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Re: Blackpool

by From Despair To Where? » 21 May 2015 20:31

Have they tried the custody suite of the local police station?

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Re: Blackpool

by Deadlock » 22 May 2015 01:47

On Wikipedia most players' pages start with something like "Billy Thompson is a professional footballer who plays as a goalkeeper for Fulchester United." I love that for Ranger it currently says "Nile Ranger is an English footballer who is on the payroll of Blackpool as a striker."

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