RUMOUR - Sparta eye Marek

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Re: Marek out on loan...

by Tony Le Mesmer » 27 Aug 2009 14:55

Thaumagurist* Did you notice the word "attempt"? He's not gone yet. :roll:

Why the f@(k is this on the team board? Didn't you notice that there was already a thread about Marek Matejovsky on the UR&G forum?


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Re: Marek out on loan...

by Royal Lady » 27 Aug 2009 14:57

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Thaumagurist* Did you notice the word "attempt"? He's not gone yet. :roll:

Why the f@(k is this on the team board? Didn't you notice that there was already a thread about Marek Matejovsky on the UR&G forum?


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Re: Marek out on loan...

by H-Town Royal » 27 Aug 2009 14:58

Thaumagurist* Did you notice the word "attempt"? He's not gone yet. :roll:

Why the f@(k is this on the team board? Didn't you notice that there was already a thread about Marek Matejovsky on the UR&G forum?


I hadn't but thanks for pointing out - forum police :roll:



The fact that Reading would entertain this idea is a joke. The management is showing again their unwillingness to make the team better. We know we were going to lose players but signing little to replace them & letting other quality players possibly going out on loan...... it is just frustrating. Makes for a long season.

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Re: Marek out on loan...

by YateleyRoyal » 27 Aug 2009 15:00

H-Town Royal Sky Sports -
Sparta Prague may attempt a loan bid for Reading midfielder Marek Matejovsky if they manage to qualify for the Europa League group stage.

The Czech club have been hit by the news that Patrik Berger will be ruled out until the New Year and are lining up Matejovsky as a temporary replacement.

The 27-year-old has fallen out of favour at the Madejski Stadium and could return to his home country to help Sparta with their heavy European schedule.

Metejovsky's agent, Pavel Zika, says that Sparta will be the best option for his client if they successfully qualify for the group stages.

"Yes, Sparta is one of the alternatives we have discussed with Marek," he told deniksport.cz.

"It all depends on how Sparta end up. If they qualify for the group stage, then I will be personally recommending Sparta to Marek, even despite the fact that there is interest in him from Italy and Germany.

"The reason for this is that with Sparta he would have a chance to play regularly in the Europa League as well and could get back to playing for the national team."



How the F' do you fall out of favor when you never get in the game...... Is he lazy?

He has top fight talent & we refuse to play him. Rodgers can piss off with his fat head.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11673_5516660,00.html


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Re: Marek out on loan...

by Thaumagurist* » 27 Aug 2009 15:15

H-Town Royal The fact that Reading would entertain this idea is a joke.


Where does it say in your article that we are entertaining the idea?


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Re: RUMOUR - Sparta eye Marek

by Barry the bird boggler » 27 Aug 2009 15:34

With a due respect what a player of his supposed ability is doing at Reading now is beyond me.

We know he's very able and talented but he's never had a regular place in the team due to SC's favourites and injury and to be honest, therefore, we'll not exactly miss him if he goes. From the player's perspective he would be much better served playing at the top level.

Although I'd like to see him as a permanent fixture in the team, there doesn't seem to be any sign of that from Clodagh so we may as well sell up, get a bit more cash and stick with the kids as per current selections...

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Re: Sparta eye Marek

by Hoop Blah » 27 Aug 2009 16:13

Royal Lady Exactly! When have there been any mutterings that Marek wants out because he wants to play at a higher level or whatever? Same with Harper. The only mutterings we have heard are from Brendan. Then Harper more or less confirmed that Brendan had said he didn't need him and Marek was reported as saying to someone that Brendan didn't want to play him. Can hardly lump the blame on these two players.


Harper has said for years that he really wanted to be playing top flight football. He'd have left for certain the year we got promoted if we hadn't gone up.

The fact he doesn't really talk to the press because they're "vultures" is why you never see him saying it these days. That's not a pop at Harper who I think is perfectly happy here but would move back to the Premiership if given the chance.

As for Matejovsky, I'm pretty sure he made a couple of 'come and get me' interviews last season. You know the one's where they say I'm happy here etc etc but you can read between the lines that he's open to offers.

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Re: Sparta eye Marek

by RobRoyal » 27 Aug 2009 16:32

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All depends on the player as well. I've no idea but it could be the same situation as with Fae. If the player wants out and has the potential to disrupt morale if he sticks around then even a loan deal would be preferable to paying him to cause trouble.


Oh come on. If we were that desperate to move him on we would try to get a fee for him. I don't think it would be that difficult. Then another club would be paying his wages. There's no value in loaning him out.


Because the other club might want to see him play in their team before parting with a transfer fee. If he's loaned out then the other team pay his wages not us. It still takes him off the wage bill and stops him from disrupting the remaining players. Thats exactly what happened with Fae although I'm in no way suggesting that Marek is a disruptive influence.


Er... right. So what are finding in my post to disagree with then? With Fae, clearly we had no chance of getting back our outlay. He hadn't manage to prove his ability with us, and it was clearly to our benefit to get him out of the club, whether termporarily or permanently. None of that is true of Matejovsky, and therefore there is no good reason for us to let him go out on loan.

Do you really think we'd have trouble getting back the £1m-odd we paid for Matejovsky if we really wanted him out of the club?

And for Gawd's sake, the idea that we're so hard up that we'll send a senior player on loan just to get him off the wage bill. What are we, Luton? :roll:

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Re: RUMOUR - Sparta eye Marek

by Terminal Boardom » 27 Aug 2009 16:35

So we get Hadenuff from watford and we potentially kiss goodbye to Marek and Harps. Who says this isn't Football / Championship Manager? 10/1 for relegation all of a sudden looks very good odds.


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Re: Sparta eye Marek

by Vision » 27 Aug 2009 22:31

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Because the other club might want to see him play in their team before parting with a transfer fee. If he's loaned out then the other team pay his wages not us. It still takes him off the wage bill and stops him from disrupting the remaining players. Thats exactly what happened with Fae although I'm in no way suggesting that Marek is a disruptive influence.


Er... right. So what are finding in my post to disagree with then? With Fae, clearly we had no chance of getting back our outlay. He hadn't manage to prove his ability with us, and it was clearly to our benefit to get him out of the club, whether termporarily or permanently. None of that is true of Matejovsky, and therefore there is no good reason for us to let him go out on loan.

Do you really think we'd have trouble getting back the £1m-odd we paid for Matejovsky if we really wanted him out of the club?

And for Gawd's sake, the idea that we're so hard up that we'll send a senior player on loan just to get him off the wage bill. What are we, Luton? :roll:


You think Matejovsky has proved himself with us?

To answer your question you suggested there was no value in loaning him out. I've given a couple of examples where that might be the case. If he's not sold in 4 days then a loan would certainly be to our benefit if Rodgers doesn't want him about the place. So unless you know Rodgers' thought for certain the possibility cannot be discounted.

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Re: RUMOUR - Sparta eye Marek

by Barry the bird boggler » 28 Aug 2009 07:40

BR says Matejovsky is part of his pl;ans this season...

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Re: Sparta eye Marek

by RFCMod » 28 Aug 2009 08:47

Row Z Royal I'm a fan of Marek - a big fan.


But he was pretty dreadful against Barnsleh.


He did seem a little dis-illusioned and if thats his attitude for the rest of the season then what would we rather have Marek at 25% or A.N Other

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Re: RUMOUR - Sparta eye Marek

by howser » 28 Aug 2009 09:13

You cant reallly have any blame on Marek or Harps if they want to jump ship, we are clearly down the list of Mr Ego's priority, I am certain very little of this firesale is anything to do with BR, the rason that he got the job is that no one else would have come here with the restrictions that have been place don him, very rarely does a new manager get told we are gon to sell the high earners, bring in some cheap replacements and leave you to take the flack from the fans.


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Re: RUMOUR - Sparta eye Marek

by loyalroyal4life » 28 Aug 2009 09:44

Barry the bird boggler BR says Matejovsky is part of his pl;ans this season...



Sure he has said that about harps or least that we are not looking to actively sell him and harps goes on record saying he has been told he can leave!!!


think if marek goes and we go for someone like nicky bailey then i will be happy

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Re: Sparta eye Marek

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 28 Aug 2009 13:22

RobRoyal With Fae, clearly we had no chance of getting back our outlay. He hadn't manage to prove his ability with us, and it was clearly to our benefit to get him out of the club, whether termporarily or permanently. None of that is true of Matejovsky, and therefore there is no good reason for us to let him go out on loan.


Not sure this is right. I think we bought him for £2.5m and sold him for €3m at a time when the £/€ rate was almost parity. If we lost anything it was minimal - we might even had made a small profit.

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Re: Sparta eye Marek

by RobRoyal » 28 Aug 2009 13:44

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RobRoyal With Fae, clearly we had no chance of getting back our outlay. He hadn't manage to prove his ability with us, and it was clearly to our benefit to get him out of the club, whether termporarily or permanently. None of that is true of Matejovsky, and therefore there is no good reason for us to let him go out on loan.


Not sure this is right. I think we bought him for £2.5m and sold him for €3m at a time when the £/€ rate was almost parity. If we lost anything it was minimal - we might even had made a small profit.


That may be correct - my point was that he had to go out on loan to generate interest. No-one would have paid that much for him immediately after our relegation.

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Re: Sparta eye Marek

by Royal With Cheese » 28 Aug 2009 15:38

(.)Boobies(.) Both Harper and Marek have been told they can leave if they can find clubs. They are two of our remaining highest earners and we want them off the books. Yes it's about money.
It's a sad and desperate state of affairs, and when we're letting so many good players leave in such a short space of time, you understand exactly why the likes of Smith stalled on a move here.

TBF Smith didn't stall on a move. He was given the opportunity to talk to a Preimership Club before he signed for us. I'm confident he would have signed had this opportunity not had presented itself at that late hour.

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Re: Sparta eye Marek

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 28 Aug 2009 16:30

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RobRoyal With Fae, clearly we had no chance of getting back our outlay. He hadn't manage to prove his ability with us, and it was clearly to our benefit to get him out of the club, whether termporarily or permanently. None of that is true of Matejovsky, and therefore there is no good reason for us to let him go out on loan.


Not sure this is right. I think we bought him for £2.5m and sold him for €3m at a time when the £/€ rate was almost parity. If we lost anything it was minimal - we might even had made a small profit.


That may be correct - my point was that he had to go out on loan to generate interest. No-one would have paid that much for him immediately after our relegation.


I see your point. Be interesting to know whether we paid any of his wages when he was on loan.

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Re: Sparta eye Marek

by surrounded by saints » 29 Aug 2009 17:42

The Goat was fed Happy to see him go. Complete liability who flatters to deceive. Nobody better at giving the ball to the opposition in dangerous situations.

agree completely!

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Re: RUMOUR - Sparta eye Marek

by LoyalRoyalFan » 30 Aug 2009 16:03

But nobody better to make that through ball or to change games.

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