RUMOUR- Soggy Biscuit

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Re: RUMOUR- Soggy Biscuit

by Mike Hunt » 22 Feb 2012 20:54

soggy biscuit Come on, all this Fordham bashing just ain't nice folks. I am sure he is just a nice bloke trying to make his way in the world like any of us.

Must be pretty soul destroying to come on here and hear people talk about you in this way. He has the same feelings as all of us, give him a break.


It comes with the territory though I think.

Being a reporter he should be thick skinned. He will survive.

I think the Editor should be shot personally. That Russian hat was horrendous.

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Re: RUMOUR- Soggy Biscuit

by themadstad » 22 Feb 2012 21:34

Well done Soggy Biscuit - good work.

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Re: RUMOUR- Soggy Biscuit

by Wimb » 23 Feb 2012 03:17

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shaka's shorts and much as many of you won't like to admit it - Jonny F was pretty much spot on with the whole story too.....


no he wasn't. he started by announcing wolves interest - yes.
then mcdermott was supposed to be talking to wolves - no.
then he said "scrub that, he's talking to wolves today" - no.
then he said permission was to speak to wolves was rejected & new contract at reading - yes (but the club do give him snippets when there is something they want to tell)

he is a terrible reporter. he picks things from forums and other sources and goes with them, then as it suits he changes the story 'as it develops' and ultimately, as with this, he covers all bases and gets it right; but largely because as mentioned, when there is something to tell, the club will tell him beforehand but ask him to hold onto it 24 hours. that doesn't make him reliable in the slightest. it makes him an employee of the club if you like.

how many times has he broken a story or been first with the news? usually national press get there first, or the club tell him. or indeed there are a couple of very reliable posters on here and then fordham prints the very same rumour, usually as "sources tell me reading are interested in..."

he never (rarely) breaks anything - other than wind.


LOL at the Fordham bashing :roll:

Friday's Legacy how exactly do you think being a reporter works? Do you expect Fordham to be phoning up every single source/contact he has hourly just in case they've got something to break to him? :|

HobNob has a good few thousand users, which means that chances are more than 1 or 2 know someone in or around the club. Therefore there's a bigger probability of someone casually spilling something to an anonymous user here then there is randomly calling up JF and saying 'oh btw player X is viewing a house in Thatcham' :wink:

More to the point if you were running a paper and you knew posters on a web forum who were reliable and had a good track record, wouldn't you at least take the rumour seriously and have a dig into it? Are they not as valid a source as anybody else?

It's the same with national media. Chances are they've got more reporters and resources = more sources and the more chance of getting a rumour first. They're also far less likely to get picked out by someone like yourself, because they actually get Reading stories so rarely, so if they get 1 wrong nobody bats an eyelid.

Fordham/ The EP doesn't print every single rumour that pops up on the club, to do so would be boring and people would stop buying the paper. Yeah he's going to get a few wrong but every single journo does. He'd lose far more credibility if he broke every single rumour he heard or a source told him than he does by missing the big 'breaking' HobNob rumour by an hour or a day.

In today's social media driven world the chances of 1 person being able to consistently break news of any kind first is slim to none. This isn't 10 years ago where people still had to wait for the EP to get printed to hear rumours or stories, this is a world where every bit of available information hits the net and is disseminated rapidly. Being a journalist today means using all of those tools and sifting through them, making judgement calls on what you think is most reliable and then getting it as right as possible. Everybody gets it wrong from time to time, from Jonny to The Sun, to the BBC and Sky the fact is if he was terrible at his job he'd get the boot, as there's no shortage of people wanting to be the primary journalist at the club and I'm sure his editor David Wright is well aware of this.

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Re: RUMOUR- Soggy Biscuit

by Mike Hunt » 23 Feb 2012 04:34

Wimb
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shaka's shorts and much as many of you won't like to admit it - Jonny F was pretty much spot on with the whole story too.....


no he wasn't. he started by announcing wolves interest - yes.
then mcdermott was supposed to be talking to wolves - no.
then he said "scrub that, he's talking to wolves today" - no.
then he said permission was to speak to wolves was rejected & new contract at reading - yes (but the club do give him snippets when there is something they want to tell)

he is a terrible reporter. he picks things from forums and other sources and goes with them, then as it suits he changes the story 'as it develops' and ultimately, as with this, he covers all bases and gets it right; but largely because as mentioned, when there is something to tell, the club will tell him beforehand but ask him to hold onto it 24 hours. that doesn't make him reliable in the slightest. it makes him an employee of the club if you like.

how many times has he broken a story or been first with the news? usually national press get there first, or the club tell him. or indeed there are a couple of very reliable posters on here and then fordham prints the very same rumour, usually as "sources tell me reading are interested in..."

he never (rarely) breaks anything - other than wind.


LOL at the Fordham bashing :roll:

Friday's Legacy how exactly do you think being a reporter works? Do you expect Fordham to be phoning up every single source/contact he has hourly just in case they've got something to break to him? :|

HobNob has a good few thousand users, which means that chances are more than 1 or 2 know someone in or around the club. Therefore there's a bigger probability of someone casually spilling something to an anonymous user here then there is randomly calling up JF and saying 'oh btw player X is viewing a house in Thatcham' :wink:

More to the point if you were running a paper and you knew posters on a web forum who were reliable and had a good track record, wouldn't you at least take the rumour seriously and have a dig into it? Are they not as valid a source as anybody else?

It's the same with national media. Chances are they've got more reporters and resources = more sources and the more chance of getting a rumour first. They're also far less likely to get picked out by someone like yourself, because they actually get Reading stories so rarely, so if they get 1 wrong nobody bats an eyelid.

Fordham/ The EP doesn't print every single rumour that pops up on the club, to do so would be boring and people would stop buying the paper. Yeah he's going to get a few wrong but every single journo does. He'd lose far more credibility if he broke every single rumour he heard or a source told him than he does by missing the big 'breaking' HobNob rumour by an hour or a day.

In today's social media driven world the chances of 1 person being able to consistently break news of any kind first is slim to none. This isn't 10 years ago where people still had to wait for the EP to get printed to hear rumours or stories, this is a world where every bit of available information hits the net and is disseminated rapidly. Being a journalist today means using all of those tools and sifting through them, making judgement calls on what you think is most reliable and then getting it as right as possible. Everybody gets it wrong from time to time, from Jonny to The Sun, to the BBC and Sky the fact is if he was terrible at his job he'd get the boot, as there's no shortage of people wanting to be the primary journalist at the club and I'm sure his editor David Wright is well aware of this.


Sound post.

Although I am not sure if David Wright is aware if much after letting that Russian hat slip through...

I actually don't mind Jonny.

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Re: RUMOUR- Soggy Biscuit

by 10539.4 Miles Away » 23 Feb 2012 05:59

Wimb
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shaka's shorts and much as many of you won't like to admit it - Jonny F was pretty much spot on with the whole story too.....


no he wasn't. he started by announcing wolves interest - yes.
then mcdermott was supposed to be talking to wolves - no.
then he said "scrub that, he's talking to wolves today" - no.
then he said permission was to speak to wolves was rejected & new contract at reading - yes (but the club do give him snippets when there is something they want to tell)

he is a terrible reporter. he picks things from forums and other sources and goes with them, then as it suits he changes the story 'as it develops' and ultimately, as with this, he covers all bases and gets it right; but largely because as mentioned, when there is something to tell, the club will tell him beforehand but ask him to hold onto it 24 hours. that doesn't make him reliable in the slightest. it makes him an employee of the club if you like.

how many times has he broken a story or been first with the news? usually national press get there first, or the club tell him. or indeed there are a couple of very reliable posters on here and then fordham prints the very same rumour, usually as "sources tell me reading are interested in..."

he never (rarely) breaks anything - other than wind.


LOL at the Fordham bashing :roll:

Friday's Legacy how exactly do you think being a reporter works? Do you expect Fordham to be phoning up every single source/contact he has hourly just in case they've got something to break to him? :|

HobNob has a good few thousand users, which means that chances are more than 1 or 2 know someone in or around the club. Therefore there's a bigger probability of someone casually spilling something to an anonymous user here then there is randomly calling up JF and saying 'oh btw player X is viewing a house in Thatcham' :wink:

More to the point if you were running a paper and you knew posters on a web forum who were reliable and had a good track record, wouldn't you at least take the rumour seriously and have a dig into it? Are they not as valid a source as anybody else?

It's the same with national media. Chances are they've got more reporters and resources = more sources and the more chance of getting a rumour first. They're also far less likely to get picked out by someone like yourself, because they actually get Reading stories so rarely, so if they get 1 wrong nobody bats an eyelid.

Fordham/ The EP doesn't print every single rumour that pops up on the club, to do so would be boring and people would stop buying the paper. Yeah he's going to get a few wrong but every single journo does. He'd lose far more credibility if he broke every single rumour he heard or a source told him than he does by missing the big 'breaking' HobNob rumour by an hour or a day.

In today's social media driven world the chances of 1 person being able to consistently break news of any kind first is slim to none. This isn't 10 years ago where people still had to wait for the EP to get printed to hear rumours or stories, this is a world where every bit of available information hits the net and is disseminated rapidly. Being a journalist today means using all of those tools and sifting through them, making judgement calls on what you think is most reliable and then getting it as right as possible. Everybody gets it wrong from time to time, from Jonny to The Sun, to the BBC and Sky the fact is if he was terrible at his job he'd get the boot, as there's no shortage of people wanting to be the primary journalist at the club and I'm sure his editor David Wright is well aware of this.


S'alright Jonny, you can put your feet up now, excitement's over :)


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Re: RUMOUR- Soggy Biscuit

by Wimb » 23 Feb 2012 06:03

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Although I am not sure if David Wright is aware if much after letting that Russian hat slip through...

I actually don't mind Jonny.


Fair point :D

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Re: RUMOUR- Soggy Biscuit

by 'lista » 23 Feb 2012 19:08

Well done Soggy.

I shall hoist a pint of public schoolboy jizz in your honour tonight.


May take some time to accumulate sufficient jizz though :cry:

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Re: RUMOUR- Soggy Biscuit

by Royal Rother » 23 Feb 2012 19:29

Excellent post Wimb.

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Re: RUMOUR- Soggy Biscuit

by SmellyAli » 25 Feb 2012 19:42

I'm with royal_bod on this one


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