Guthrie

[bloody Volvo driver]

Ah but you're forgetting that Matejovsky was on a different wavelength to the other players.

You mean better than the other players?

No, I mean he was completely overrated.

I've seen a few Reading players who were quite a bit better than their team mates but every one of them managed to play with the team.

No not overrated, just we don't seem to have the ability to incorporate a central midfielder who can pick a pass.

Our current crop of Ledge, Jem and Tabby have many positive attributes, but slotting a defence splitting pass isn't one of them. The only one currently on our payroll is Guthrie and yet again he looks as though he may go on the rubbish heap of ex Reading FC central midfield players who can hurt the opposition with a pass.

[LoyalRoyalFan]

Ah but you're forgetting that Matejovsky was on a different wavelength to the other players.

You mean better than the other players?

No, I mean he was completely overrated.

I've seen a few Reading players who were quite a bit better than their team mates but every one of them managed to play with the team.

He was one of the best players to pull on the hoops in the last few years.

Class act.

[sandman]

Yes, overrated. People saw someone who had a foreign name and looked like he may be able to pick a pass and they put the rest of the players down by saying he was "on a different wavelength". When in reality he just wasn't cut out for English Football and most of his defence splitting passes were easily intercepted.

I'll never forget Lewis McGugan scoring against us whilst going past Marek and swatting him away like a fly when we played Forest a few years ago. That sums up Matejovsky's time as a Reading player, totally out of his depth.

He was one of the best players to pull on the hoops in the last few years.

Class act.

Gylfi was a class act, Sidwell was a class act, Osborn, etc. Matejovsky wasn't even close.

[leon]

Yes, overrated. People saw someone who had a foreign name and looked like he may be able to pick a pass and they put the rest of the players down by saying he was "on a different wavelength". When in reality he just wasn't cut out for English Football and most of his defence splitting passes were easily cut out.

I'll never forget Lewis McGugan scoring against us whilst going past Marek and swatting him away like a fly when we played Forest a few years ago. That sums up Matejovsky's time as a Reading player, totally out of his depth.

He was one of the best players to pull on the hoops in the last few years.

Class act.

Gylfi was a class act, Sidwell was a class act, Osborn etc. Matejovsky wasn't even close.

absolutely spot on. Great, even "just" good players impose themselves on games - week in week out. How many good games did Matejovsky actually have? Great he scored a nice goal at Anfield. Well done him. We lost that one.

[sandman]

Well there was err... but wait there was... and who could forget the game where he... no wait, that wasn't him.

[Mr Angry]

Marek also managed to concede more penalties than Jem, Ledge and Tabb combined; I winced every time he went to make a tackle cos his timing was shocking.

[Barry the bird boggler]

To be honest has BM lost it? Except Pogrebnyak I an not overly impressed with any of the signings made (although with Guthrie that's more because of the fact he just doesn't suit the style of play we have). Guess November will show whether he's right or not....

[under the tin]

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....Guthrie and he looks as though he may go on the rubbish heap of ex Reading FC central midfield players who can hurt the opposition with a pass.

That might have something to do with the shortage of these "defence splitting passes" and a greater number of sloppy passes that only hurt his own team.

[RoyalBlue]

You can't help but admire Jay Tabb's work rate and effort. You can't fault his commitment and he will always give 110%. But let's be honest. He is no better than Guthrie and the fact that Guthrie is sitting out of the team at the expense of Tabb is a little silly on McDermott's behalf.

well Tabb puts a tackle in.....

Shame he didn't put one in on Ruiz on Saturday!

Good honest pro, likeable chap, team player, 100% effort but not IMO Premier League quality.

Yes, overrated. People saw someone who had a foreign name and looked like he may be able to pick a pass and they put the rest of the players down by saying he was "on a different wavelength". When in reality he just wasn't cut out for English Football and most of his defence splitting passes were easily intercepted.

I'll never forget Lewis McGugan scoring against us whilst going past Marek and swatting him away like a fly when we played Forest a few years ago. That sums up Matejovsky's time as a Reading player, totally out of his depth.

He was one of the best players to pull on the hoops in the last few years.

Class act.

Gylfi was a class act, Sidwell was a class act, Osborn, etc. Matejovsky wasn't even close.

IMO Sidwell would have been a safer, better signing than Guthrie.

[Barry the bird boggler]

Assuming that he would have wanted to return if we'd shown any interest.

[melonhead]

To be honest has BM lost it? Except Pogrebnyak I an not overly impressed with any of the signings made (although with Guthrie that's more because of the fact he just doesn't suit the style of play we have). Guess November will show whether he's right or not....

it all opinions

but i think shorey, mcleary, and pog have all improved the first team/squad
and guthrie cleary has some quality

have they improved it enough to win enough games at this level to stay up? it looks 50:50 at best as it stands, but we are improving imo
even at this early stage we seem to be compeing well, just guilty of a lack of composure/confidence (not too shocking considering ouir results) & too many lapses in each game which means we struggle to stay in front.
i just think all of the above is possible, without concluding that brian has in any way lost it

[Ian Royal]

May have to revise my opinion.

[tilehurstender]

There was a big bust up after the game with Guthrie telling all who wanted to hear what he thought of the manager and club. Gone in January along with the Pog if we're still in bottom three.

[WAZZOCK]

one the most genuinely nice guys in football

This is simply not the case with McDermott, I have it on good authority from several people ITK that he is getting too big for his boots. Very difficult man to work with at times to boot.

[Royalwaster]

one the most genuinely nice guys in football

This is simply not the case with McDermott, I have it on good authority from several people ITK that he is getting too big for his boots. Very difficult man to work with at times to boot.

Even the nicest guys have to be tough sometimes ....

[Cobi]

one the most genuinely nice guys in football

This is simply not the case with McDermott, I have it on good authority from several people ITK that he is getting too big for his boots. Very difficult man to work with at times to boot.

The PL is full of big egos. Coppell treated them all like gentlemen and they shat on him. McDermott is right to man up and match them! It's that or roll over and be a failure at this level, here or with another club later.

[facaldaqui]

Tabb's way of playing is to win the ball and pass it short to someone who can do something with it. Last night he was doing that to Ledge, but Ledge is no great creative artist himself, so it was wasted. Ironically--because Tabb owes his place to Guthrie's demise--Tabb would probably do better at Guthrie's elbow.

[WAZZOCK]

one the most genuinely nice guys in football

This is simply not the case with McDermott, I have it on good authority from several people ITK that he is getting too big for his boots. Very difficult man to work with at times to boot.

Even the nicest guys have to be tough sometimes ....

There's a difference between being tough and being difficult.

[Elm Park Pasty]

So by the sounds of it we are completely imploding? Maybe we should send them all off into the woods so they can have a huge tear up and clear the air!!

If what Wassock is said true (and I don't mean to imply otherwise!) where do we go? If a player becomes a bad egg, you ship them out, but what about the manager?

[Broxroyal]

So by the sounds of it we are completely imploding? Maybe we should send them all off into the woods so they can have a huge tear up and clear the air!!

If what Wassock is said true (and I don't mean to imply otherwise!) where do we go? If a player becomes a bad egg, you ship them out, but what about the manager?

If the manager does become a bad egg, he loses the dressing room. The weekend game at QPR will give us a clue as to whether Brian still has the dressing room. If we capitulate again like we did in the 2nd half last night that will be an indicator that he doesn't.