Gylfi returning on loan?

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by FiNeRaIn » 03 Jan 2012 11:49

Barry the bird boggler So we could be looking at the SPL then......


Not a bad shout, outside the top two there are a few good players worth buying.

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by Royal Lady » 03 Jan 2012 12:19

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Big Foot Heard Gylfi wanted to come back but wages / insurance fees meant that this was never going to be a viable option


Don't know about the cost but my sources tell me we were his number one personal choice, we'll just have to get promoted without him

FAO Ian "know it all" Royal - this backs up my theory that you put down, as you always do. Cheers then.

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by sandman » 03 Jan 2012 14:20

Hoop Blah WR, I know where you're coming from but I think it would be quite easy to slot Sigurdsson into the current side in place of one of the centre forwards (it's not like any of them are actually doing that great a job) and having him at the business end.

We'd have to play a little less of the percentage ball down the channels of course but I think that's be a positive and would improve things.

Sandman, I don't think it's quite fair to say Rodgers didn't know how to play Sigurdsson whilst he was here. He got some very good performances out of him at an early stage of his Championship career. Could he have got more out of him playing him in a different role? Perhaps. Would that have been better for the team at the time with the other players we had available whilst taking into account Sigurdssons rawness at this level? Not so sure. I think there were much bigger issues at play that influenced performances and results than Sigurdsson playing most of his time out wide.


If you actually read what I said you'd have noticed that me saying Gylfi showed flashes while Rodgers was here. Brendan played Scott Davies in the advanced role who was so raw at this level that he had frost bite and HNA favourite Matejovsky who was supposedly too clever for his caveman team mates. Brendan definitely knew how special Gylfi was because he said as much to the local media. However, the fact he couldn't unlock that skill on a consistant basis would suggest he didn't know what to do with him.

In fact given that he failed to get a settled side during his time here using a lot of players would suggest he didn't know what to do with a lot of players Jimmy and Shane probably even more than Siggy.

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by Hoop Blah » 03 Jan 2012 15:07

He played Scott Davies in 2 or 3 games at the very start of the season having impressed in pre-season and coming off the back of a couple of very good seasons out on loan. I don't think you can say he was a factor in, or evidence of, Rodgers not knowing how to use Sigurdsson.

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by sandman » 03 Jan 2012 15:40

Hoop Blah He played Scott Davies in 2 or 3 games at the very start of the season having impressed in pre-season and coming off the back of a couple of very good seasons out on loan. I don't think you can say he was a factor in, or evidence of, Rodgers not knowing how to use Sigurdsson.


Impressing in pre season and a couple of good loan spells in the lower and non leagues doesn't change the fact that Davies was, in your words about Gylfi "raw at this level", yet he was still in the used in that role. At the start of that season he'd started as many Championship games as Gylfi a big fat zero. You referenced the players we had available at the time I just remarked on one of your examples.

The fact Gylfi was tried all over the midfield would suggest that Rodgers was at least unsure on what his best position was. Like I said he was smart enough to spot the talent he just didn't know how to correctly implement the player in the team.

I've given you the evidence to support my claim that Rodgers didn't know what to do with several players not just Gylfi, maybe one of the stattos can tell us just how many of the squad started games at the time. Others have backed me up over his handling of Shane in particular as well. The man didn't know what his best team was and didn't know what combinations to use or how get the best out of the players available at the time. Would you not agree that using a lot of players suggests that a manager doesn't quite know what his best team is?

I will credit you with debating it more sensibily than Swansea Jack.
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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by swansea jack » 03 Jan 2012 15:43

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Hoop Blah He played Scott Davies in 2 or 3 games at the very start of the season having impressed in pre-season and coming off the back of a couple of very good seasons out on loan. I don't think you can say he was a factor in, or evidence of, Rodgers not knowing how to use Sigurdsson.


Impressing in pre season and a couple of good loan spells in the lower and non leagues doesn't change the fact that Davies was, in your words about Gylfi "raw at this level", yet he was still in the used in that role. At the start of that season he'd started as many Championship games as Gylfi a big fat zero. You referenced the players we had available at the time I just remarked on one of your examples.The fact Gylfi was tried all over the midfield would suggest that Rodgers was at least unsure on what his best position was. Like I said he was smart enough to spot the talent he just didn't know how to correctly implement the player in the team.

I've given you the evidence to support my claim that Rodgers didn't know what to do with several players not just Gylfi, maybe one of the stattos can tell us just how many of the squad started games at the time. Others have backed me up over his handling of Shane in particular as well. The man didn't know what his best team was and didn't know what combinations to use or how get the best out of the players available at the time. Would you not agree that using a lot of players suggests that a manager doesn't quite know what his best team is?

I will credit you with debating it with more sensibility than Swansea Jackass.


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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by mr_number » 03 Jan 2012 16:02

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Big Foot Heard Gylfi wanted to come back but wages / insurance fees meant that this was never going to be a viable option


Don't know about the cost but my sources tell me we were his number one personal choice, we'll just have to get promoted without him

FAO Ian "know it all" Royal - this backs up my theory that you put down, as you always do. Cheers then.


Not disagreeing or anything, but I would query how reliable anonymous sources actually are. My sources said we're going to get Tevez on loan to the end of the season, but that doesn't make it any closer to reality...

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by Hoop Blah » 03 Jan 2012 16:57

sandman The fact Gylfi was tried all over the midfield would suggest that Rodgers was at least unsure on what his best position was. Like I said he was smart enough to spot the talent he just didn't know how to correctly implement the player in the team.


Or, that he recognised that he was too talented to leave out of the side and so used him to cover gaps that squad availability issues left open.

One of Rodgers mistakes was to believe that he had the time and backing of the board to use some of the early season games to assess the strengths and weaknesses of his squad. Part of that was using players (especially those who hadn't played at the level much) in different roles to see if they could do the jobs he was going to be asking them to do in the long term. McDermott went back to basics of course (which he needed to at the time) but he also had the benefit of seeing Rodgers experimenations at first hand.

I don't think Rodgers had a real problem getting the best out of Sigurdsson (at the time and with the resources available to him) and the fact still remains that McDermott followed the same path with him for his first few months in charge, probably for similar reasons.

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by moo » 03 Jan 2012 17:30

When Swansea get relegated I will cum in my pants.

If Rodgers is put in a coma I will cum in my pants.

When Sinclair goes to jail i'll be like, yeah whatever.


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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by Negative_Jeff » 03 Jan 2012 18:14

We had a bloke here who inherited a team who had hardly won all year and faced a massive rebuilding job. He also wanted us to play a style of football which amounted to more than percentages and lumping down channels. Nobody, board and supporters, was prepared to show patience and get behind him. Now Rodgers is doing rather well in the premier league with a team that gets plaudits for its football from all quarters..........but still gets slated on Hob Nob. He has even signed one of our greatest ever players. It`s about time we threw the towel in over this, what a bunch of losers we are.

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by Snowball » 03 Jan 2012 18:42

Negative_Jeff We had a bloke here who inherited a team who had hardly won all year and faced a massive rebuilding job. He also wanted us to play a style of football which amounted to more than percentages and lumping down channels. Nobody, board and supporters, was prepared to show patience and get behind him. Now Rodgers is doing rather well in the premier league with a team that gets plaudits for its football from all quarters..........but still gets slated on Hob Nob. He has even signed one of our greatest ever players. It`s about time we threw the towel in over this, what a bunch of losers we are.



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14 Reading P20 W6 D08 L6 . . . 10 Clean Sheets . . . 19-16 . . . GD = +3 26 Points at 1.30 ppg January 1st to end of season, league
13 Reading P23 W7 D10 L6 . . . 10 Clean Sheets . . . 24-19 . . . GD = +5 31 Points at 1.35 ppg The final 23 League games

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2012 18:51

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by Royalee » 03 Jan 2012 18:55

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Wow. It's certainly not hard to see which team you support! Do they


Still won't support anyone other than Reading, but have given attending games a wide berth lately as I can't support a club which refuses to support itself.


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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by Uke » 03 Jan 2012 19:08

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Wow. It's certainly not hard to see which team you support! Do they


Still won't support anyone other than Reading, but have given attending games a wide berth lately as I can't support a club which refuses to do what I want it to do, yet somehow manges to survive for longer than I have lived on this planet of my very own.

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by floyd__streete » 03 Jan 2012 19:11

Negative_Jeff We had a bloke here who inherited a team who had hardly won all year and faced a massive rebuilding job. He also wanted us to play a style of football which amounted to more than percentages and lumping down channels. Nobody, board and supporters, was prepared to show patience and get behind him.....


Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. Rodgers brought a lot of it on himself by vastly overrating his own abilities. He seemed to think he could make the likes of Kalifa Cisse a majestic ball-playing midfielder :| . He has done well at Swansea and I wish him well, I also wish Gylfi well. I am sure that Rodgers learned a lot at Reading and while he is clearly 'the one who got away', his refusal to even remotely compromise his principles and play the long game (as opposed to 'the long ball game' :P ) cost him his job at Reading.

High time that you - and many others on this thread - moved on and stopped re-writing the past.

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by RoyalJames101 » 03 Jan 2012 19:16

floyd__streete He seemed to think he could make the likes of Kalifa Cisse a majestic ball-playing midfielder :| .


He was...

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by Pete10 » 03 Jan 2012 22:48

Shit Swansea have him .Welsh CU.TS.

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by Pete10 » 03 Jan 2012 22:54

Utter joke ................

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by FiNeRaIn » 03 Jan 2012 23:16

Gylfi Sigurdsson will join up with his new Swansea City team-mates on Wednesday after arriving at the club this evening.

The Icelandic midfielder is set to take part in his first training session with the Swans after he agreed a loan move until the end of the season from German outfit Hoffenheim.

The 22-year-old was at the Liberty today to sign the documents which are now with the Premier League as the Swans await clearance.

Former Reading ace Sigurdsson, who has six international caps, is hopeful of making his debut in Saturday's FA Cup third-round trip to Barnsley.

http://www.swanseacity.net/page/Latest/ ... 95,00.html


The play-off winners with a real coup here! Comfortably mid-table for swansea this season and they'll look to invest and push on. Good club.

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Re: Gylfi returning on loan?

by melonhead » 04 Jan 2012 09:16

good move for the lad, should fit their style with no problems

will look forward to seeing him play on match of the day
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