Dave Kitson signs new deal

[readingbedding]

There aren't too many players whon have left Reading over the last few years who we didn't want to leave.

A selling club to me, means that players who we want to keep attract big offers that is tempting for us and for the player in question.

By why is that? Is it because we've turned down all offers for our players or because nobody has actually been that interested in them to make an offer?

Personally I'd say the latter.

I guess if a team offered £10M for Doyle we may want to sell, and then it would down to the player to agree terms.
If a team offered 3M we might not.

Every player has it's price I think.

The architypal selling club for me is Crewe, selling good young players kept them afloat, but it was all their best players leaving.

[papereyes]

There aren't too many players whon have left Reading over the last few years who we didn't want to leave.

A selling club to me, means that players who we want to keep attract big offers that is tempting for us and for the player in question.

By why is that? Is it because we've turned down all offers for our players or because nobody has actually been that interested in them to make an offer?

Personally I'd say the latter.

I guess if a team offered £10M for Doyle we may want to sell, and then it would down to the player to agree terms.
If a team offered 3M we might not.

Every player has it's price I think.

The architypal selling club for me is Crewe, selling good young players kept them afloat, but it was all their best players leaving.

But they cannot keep afloat and in the position they are, without the conveyor belt of young talent and constantly selling from that pool.

That defines a selling club, imo.

[Behindu]

I'll concede the use of the term 'decades' was rather ill advised !

You mean wrong right?!

Insufficiently precise perhaps

Given that for the last 5-6 years we've been consistently one of the best teams in our division it seems a racing certainty that other teams have been watching our players.

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Watching our players yes, not bidding for them, which is my point!

I know, I just don't agree it's the relevant point... I live in a nice house, I often have people asing me if I'd like to sell my house and I always say no. I am not interested in selling. I have had no formal bids, but I've made it clear I am not going to sell, so why would people make me formal bids.

we'd still sell if someone had placed a good offer. ...

Maybe that is the key ! We define a 'good' offer as well above market rates, so rarely sell. My house may be worth 200k, I am not interested in selling it. If however someone offered me £1 million then of course I would take it. I have a friend who moves annually and looks to make maybe £10k per transaction profit. He actively looks to buy places he can sell on, and to find buyers for the place he is currently in. He is a 'selling' club, I am not. We might both sell though !

In terms of offers though it is a known fact that Everton made a bid for James Harper...

If you say so![/quote]

Ask anyone, it was just before we made a bid for Robbie Fowler

[readingbedding]

There aren't too many players whon have left Reading over the last few years who we didn't want to leave.

A selling club to me, means that players who we want to keep attract big offers that is tempting for us and for the player in question.

By why is that? Is it because we've turned down all offers for our players or because nobody has actually been that interested in them to make an offer?

Personally I'd say the latter.

I guess if a team offered £10M for Doyle we may want to sell, and then it would down to the player to agree terms.
If a team offered 3M we might not.

Every player has it's price I think.

The architypal selling club for me is Crewe, selling good young players kept them afloat, but it was all their best players leaving.

But they cannot keep afloat and in the position they are, without the conveyor belt of young talent and constantly selling from that pool.

That defines a selling club, imo.

That's what I'm saying.

[Hoop Blah]

I guess if a team offered £10M for Doyle we may want to sell, and then it would down to the player to agree terms.
If a team offered 3M we might not.

Every player has it's price I think.

The architypal selling club for me is Crewe, selling good young players kept them afloat, but it was all their best players leaving.

But they cannot keep afloat and in the position they are, without the conveyor belt of young talent and constantly selling from that pool.

That defines a selling club, imo.

I'd pretty much agree, my only point is that the only reason we've not been a selling club is that nobody has really wanted to buy our players.

In fact most have left on freebies or nominal fee's because we couldn't sell them whereas behindu reckons we've not been a selling club for decades through choice.

[Behindu]

behindu reckons we've not been a selling club for decades through choice.

No, I'm happy to vary the time period to less than decades !!!

You will need to concede that the suggestion that over perhaps the last 5-10 years that we've been desperately trying to flog players and no one has been interested is wrong.

Can you list the players that we have brought in and then tried to sell but have failed to ?

[readingbedding]

I guess if a team offered £10M for Doyle we may want to sell, and then it would down to the player to agree terms.
If a team offered 3M we might not.

Every player has it's price I think.

The architypal selling club for me is Crewe, selling good young players kept them afloat, but it was all their best players leaving.

But they cannot keep afloat and in the position they are, without the conveyor belt of young talent and constantly selling from that pool.

That defines a selling club, imo.

I'd pretty much agree, my only point is that the only reason we've not been a selling club is that nobody has really wanted to buy our players.

In fact most have left on freebies or nominal fee's because we couldn't sell them whereas behindu reckons we've not been a selling club for decades through choice.

I'm sure teams have wanted our players, but either we don't want to sell, or don't need to sell and the players are happy here.

[Woodcote Royal]

I guess if a team offered £10M for Doyle we may want to sell, and then it would down to the player to agree terms.
If a team offered 3M we might not.

Every player has it's price I think.

The architypal selling club for me is Crewe, selling good young players kept them afloat, but it was all their best players leaving.

But they cannot keep afloat and in the position they are, without the conveyor belt of young talent and constantly selling from that pool.

That defines a selling club, imo.

I'd pretty much agree, my only point is that the only reason we've not been a selling club is that nobody has really wanted to buy our players.

In fact most have left on freebies or nominal fee's because we couldn't sell them whereas behindu reckons we've not been a selling club for decades through choice.

So, until we get shedloads of offers for our top players and the Chairman gets a double hernia in his rush to get the money in his account, how can you and others maintain we are a selling club

"We would be a selling club if anyone wanted our players!" seems about the strength of Ern's case whereas, back in the real world, we cashed in to some degree in '95 with players we couldn't keep having missed out on the Premiership (with a set up that at the time had no chance of coping in such lofty territory )

Since then, JM has only ever said, when money has been tight, that existing players would need to be shipped out before news ones could be brought in.

As mentioned before, Crewe are the typical selling club, because they can't survive any other way, whereas we have a Chairman who has bailed us out year after year.

In other words, and for whatever reason, we have not been a selling club under the current Chairman.

[papereyes]

I guess if a team offered £10M for Doyle we may want to sell, and then it would down to the player to agree terms.
If a team offered 3M we might not.

Every player has it's price I think.

The architypal selling club for me is Crewe, selling good young players kept them afloat, but it was all their best players leaving.

But they cannot keep afloat and in the position they are, without the conveyor belt of young talent and constantly selling from that pool.

That defines a selling club, imo.

I'd pretty much agree, my only point is that the only reason we've not been a selling club is that nobody has really wanted to buy our players.

In fact most have left on freebies or nominal fee's because we couldn't sell them whereas behindu reckons we've not been a selling club for decades through choice.

I'm sure teams have wanted our players, but either we don't want to sell, or don't need to sell and the players are happy here.

For vast chunks of the time, and even quite recently, I don't think that was the case. At certain points, yes, definately.

And I don't think we aimed to sustain ourselves off the sales of players, as some clubs have done.