A bit worrying

[Behindu]

1. Platypuss has done no such thing. No where have I stated or even implied that the ticket office are lying.

You have. It's your problem if you can't understand what has been pointed out.

4. Why wouldn't the club sell tickets that are available? Maybe, just maybe nobody wanted to buy them. Is that such an incredible theory? Maybe Those that state they were told that it's single tickets only were stipulating a specific stand. Who knows. What I find hard to believe is that these rows of seats were are set aside for sponsors who turn ever game where the match has sold out or all but sold out but all, uniformaly, don't turn up when it hasn't.

No, the club state on the website that ONLY SINGLE SEATS are available for a game, not 'in the East Stand'. When you ask 'who knows', perhaps people who ask questions or talk to the relevant people know. Rather than those who look for 'facts' to back up their pet theories.

Can you accept that in life the simple explanation is usually the correct one and the 'conspiracy' theory one is rarely correct ?

Snide? Insinuating? patronising? hycocryte? I thought you were better than all these cheap insults, evidently not.

They are not insults, they are descriptions. All are fair comments.

As usual you are quick to take offence if people use strong words in response to you yet you never worry about insulting others.

[weybridgewanderer]

4. Why wouldn't the club sell tickets that are available? Maybe, just maybe nobody wanted to buy them. Is that such an incredible theory? Maybe Those that state they were told that it's single tickets only were stipulating a specific stand. Who knows. What I find hard to believe is that these rows of seats were are set aside for sponsors who turn ever game where the match has sold out or all but sold out but all, uniformaly, don't turn up when it hasn't.

I suspect, although have no evidence to prove it, that these blocks of tickets have been given to a school but through some admin cock up, lack of minibus driver or similar, a school has not turned up

[Dirk Gently]

4. Why wouldn't the club sell tickets that are available? Maybe, just maybe nobody wanted to buy them. Is that such an incredible theory? Maybe Those that state they were told that it's single tickets only were stipulating a specific stand. Who knows. What I find hard to believe is that these rows of seats were are set aside for sponsors who turn ever game where the match has sold out or all but sold out but all, uniformaly, don't turn up when it hasn't.

I suspect, although have no evidence to prove it, that these blocks of tickets have been given to a school but through some admin cock up, lack of minibus driver or similar, a school has not turned up

That would surprise me - I doubt they'd give the most expensive tickets to a school or similar. Much more likely that tickets in the Upper West would be sponsors, away team or league, etc.

[weybridgewanderer]

sorry i didn't appreciate these rows were in the upper west I have seen rows empty in the southstand

The club has provided "hospitality seating" in the upper west that was not previously available to hospitality people.

It may be that the hospitality is not selling out for all games and it is those seats that are available (hence the emails I keep getting from Richard McCoull informing me that seats are available for all games

Dear Supporter

We wanted to let you know that we have just released match by match hospitality packages for all games across the season.

Prices start from just £125* and packages include your match ticket, car parking**, a matchday programme, a pre-match meal with wine and half time refreshments.

We can also still offer seasonal packages for the remaining 17 Premier League games, with prices starting from £1880*.

Please contact me to make a booking or for further information.

Many thanks
Richard

Cilantro
Posted on: Wed 29 Aug 2007
The Cilantro package takes place in a luxurious environment set in the onsite hotel,
and is a great way to fine dine and enjoy Barclays Premier League football.
This hospitality package includes the following:
-Standard match seats in the South West corner of the upper West stand
-Great menu with a choice from 2 starters and 2 main courses - served in the hotel
restaurant
-Half bottle of wine per person
-Access to pay bar facility
-Pre-match tea and coffee
-Match day hostesses
-Complimentary match day programmes
-Car parking space (one space for every four guests)

http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/pa ... 64,00.html

[Wycombe Royal]

Just for Schards:

http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10306~1128204,00.html

http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10306~1120058,00.html

Fascinating but the games in question when there were rows of empty seats were Everton, Wigan and West Ham.

I saw some blocks of seats empty against Derby in the Upper West (south end). Care to explain that one seeing as only single seats were available?

[paultheroyal]

Coach party from Bournemouth (ringtec solutions) failed to turn up as coach broke down just outside Ringwood and no alternative available because of it being a Sunday

[The 17 Bus]

3 pages of insults and now we get an answer, ban fans from Bournemouth I say. Any coach failing to arrive should result in lines or blocks of seats being empty.

Personally I thought that there werwe lads of empty seats in the home stands looking at it on TV on Sunday, I guess that is the 5% that fail to appear.

[weybridgewanderer]

Just for Schards:

http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10306~1128204,00.html

http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10306~1120058,00.html

Fascinating but the games in question when there were rows of empty seats were Everton, Wigan and West Ham.

I saw some blocks of seats empty against Derby in the Upper West (south end). Care to explain that one seeing as only single seats were available?

The club has provided "hospitality seating" in the upper west that was not previously available to hospitality people.

see my post directly above yours

[Wycombe Royal]

Just for Schards:

http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10306~1128204,00.html

http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10306~1120058,00.html

Fascinating but the games in question when there were rows of empty seats were Everton, Wigan and West Ham.

I saw some blocks of seats empty against Derby in the Upper West (south end). Care to explain that one seeing as only single seats were available?

The club has provided "hospitality seating" in the upper west that was not previously available to hospitality people.

see my post directly above yours

Yes I know, but I needed to point that out purely for Schard's benefit.

[Royal Lady]

If there's hospitality seating in the Upper West that wasn't previously used as hospitality seating does no-one agree that the fact the seats are now appearing to go empty is a little short sighted by the club as they could have sold them to genuine Reading fans and are now depriving genuine fans who can't get a ticket by trying to make extra money on the seats by marketing them as part of a hospitality package? And thanks to Woodcote, aka Timothy Lumsden, for cheering me up no end with his hilarious comments about Schards and I being like Terry and June.

[working class hero]

Personally I thought that there werwe lads of empty seats in the home stands looking at it on TV on Sunday, I guess that is the 5% that fail to appear.

Although we won I wish I had been in the absent 5%.

If we continue to play such dull rubbish Schards will be proved right....

[Riseley]

Woodcote does bears a remarkable resemblance to Ronnie Corbett's character.

[The 17 Bus]

If there's hospitality seating in the Upper West that wasn't previously used as hospitality seating does no-one agree that the fact the seats are now appearing to go empty is a little short sighted by the club as they could have sold them to genuine Reading fans and are now depriving genuine fans who can't get a ticket by trying to make extra money on the seats by marketing them as part of a hospitality package? And thanks to Woodcote, aka Timothy Lumsden, for cheering me up no end with his hilarious comments about Schards and I being like Terry and June.

I thik we would all like to see the ground full, June xxxx

[Riseley]

June Whitfield is nothing like RL. Our June smokes like a chimney and drinks wine like water.

[Behindu]

If there's hospitality seating in the Upper West that wasn't previously used as hospitality seating does no-one agree that the fact the seats are now appearing to go empty is a little short sighted by the club as they could have sold them to genuine Reading fans and are now depriving genuine fans who can't get a ticket by trying to make extra money on the seats by marketing them as part of a hospitality package? .

No.

1. The seats are usually filled
2. Very unfair suggestion that people in hospitality are not 'genuine' fans
3. What is shortsighted about finding ways to extend your market ?
4. We've had the reason for empty seats explained for the Derby game already
5. If we extend the stadium we can have hospitality AND seats for 'genuine' fans.

[Royal Lady]

If there's hospitality seating in the Upper West that wasn't previously used as hospitality seating does no-one agree that the fact the seats are now appearing to go empty is a little short sighted by the club as they could have sold them to genuine Reading fans and are now depriving genuine fans who can't get a ticket by trying to make extra money on the seats by marketing them as part of a hospitality package? .

No.

1. The seats are usually filled not in the upper west section they're not
2. Very unfair suggestion that people in hospitality are not 'genuine' fans if they were genuine fans they'd be sitting in the seats would they not?
3. What is shortsighted about finding ways to extend your market ? Because it's obviously not working and it's at the expense of other fans
4. We've had the reason for empty seats explained for the Derby game already - what was the reason for the same empty seats in Upper West South West corner - they're always empty!5. If we extend the stadium we can have hospitality AND seats for 'genuine' fans. Possibly so, but a lot of them will be empty!

Whatever the reasons, a lot of the empty seats appear to be unsold seats, which is what Schards was saying in the first place.

[Behindu]

I'll have to take a look at these seats at the next game.
Although it seems Schards thinks they are sometimes empty and RL thinks they are always empty so I guess whether I see any will depend if I look in a Schards manner or an RL manner !

Interesting to see that we seem to be heading off on another sidetrack by the way. I wonder how relevant it is that there may be a small number of seats with no one in at some games when it comes to deciding whether to expand ? i suspect it's irrelevant, but no doubt another few pages will be filled with fairly futile debate about it.

[Schards#2]

1. Platypuss has done no such thing. No where have I stated or even implied that the ticket office are lying.

You have. It's your problem if you can't understand what has been pointed out.

4. Why wouldn't the club sell tickets that are available? Maybe, just maybe nobody wanted to buy them. Is that such an incredible theory? Maybe Those that state they were told that it's single tickets only were stipulating a specific stand. Who knows. What I find hard to believe is that these rows of seats were are set aside for sponsors who turn ever game where the match has sold out or all but sold out but all, uniformaly, don't turn up when it hasn't.

No, the club state on the website that ONLY SINGLE SEATS are available for a game, not 'in the East Stand'. When you ask 'who knows', perhaps people who ask questions or talk to the relevant people know. Rather than those who look for 'facts' to back up their pet theories.

Can you accept that in life the simple explanation is usually the correct one and the 'conspiracy' theory one is rarely correct ?

Snide? Insinuating? patronising? hycocryte? I thought you were better than all these cheap insults, evidently not.

They are not insults, they are descriptions. All are fair comments.

As usual you are quick to take offence if people use strong words in response to you yet you never worry about insulting others.

Behindu, could you please stop lying.

You know how to use the quote facility, if i've accused the ticket office of lying then quote it. If I haven't, (which I haven't) then stop lying about it.
The same goes for Platypus, quote it, or post your correction.

You're right on one thing though, the simplest explanation is normally the correct one. The simplest explanation for empty seats is that people haven't bought the tickets. Sadly, it seems to be the one explanation you won't consider.

[Riseley]

When we are playing in the 'White Elephant Arena' in front of a few thousand hardy souls I hope you all remember the wise words of Schards & RL.

[Behindu]

Behindu, could you please stop lying..

I haven't.

You know how to use the quote facility, if i've accused the ticket office of lying then quote it. If I haven't, (which I haven't) then stop lying about it.
The same goes for Platypus, quote it, or post your correction..

[/quote]

The TO have stated that only single seats have been available for games.

You have stated that the only explanation you will consider for what you claim are rows of empty seats is that those seats have not been sold.

You insinuate that when the TO state there are only single seats available they are lying, because in your opinion they have plenty of seats available that are not unsold and are not single seats.

It's a clear suggestion on your part that the statements made by the TO are untrue, that they are lying.

I am quite prepared to believe that for some games there have been seats together that have not been sold, but I have also provided several reasons why blocks of seats which you believe you have seen may be empty but not available for sale. Others have provided other explanations. You chose to disregard these points because they don't support your view.

I'm impressed by your totally unjustified use of petty insults.