Apologies here please:-

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Re: Apologies here please:-

by Cookie » 08 Mar 2008 21:45

Great performance, particularly good second half, Doyle determindely skipping past their defender to square the ball for Long was a delight. And won't do either of them any harm when the Eire team is selected for WC quals. Liam brady and some italian bloke were there to watch the game I believe.

Rosenior improves all the time and Murty may have to look for a coaching role to ensure his future with the club. :|
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Re: Apologies here please:-

by Geekins » 08 Mar 2008 22:48

sucatraps Blimey! HNA in moderately intelligent and thoughtful dialogue with each other, without resorting to crass insults and polarized opinion :shock:


Shut it you tw@ :wink: :lol:

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Re: Apologies here please:-

by PEARCEY » 09 Mar 2008 00:47

sucatraps For all the vitriol, abuse and doubts cast upon the head of our team manager, his staff and players, the detractors can sign up here for the sack cloth, hair shirts and ashes they deserve!



So presumably you are saying that none of us dare to criticise the management or question some of the decisions made???
Totally disagree with you. There are not many clubs where a team can lose eight on the bounce but still the vast majority of fans back the management. This is replicated on this board with the vast majority of us prepared to back Coppell even if we go down. That does not mean he is doing a perfect job and he himself has admitted to mistakes throughout the season.
If we have it your way we might as well close this board down and avoid discussion altogether.

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Re: Apologies here please:-

by H-Town Royal » 09 Mar 2008 00:56

If the team is coached or plays like a** - we have every right to call them out. They have won 2 games now and have moved up the table. We played well today - City also played very poorly. We earned the 3 points - But there are no apologies needed.

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Re: Apologies here please:-

by Schards#2 » 09 Mar 2008 10:27

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earleyroyal I'm sorry, criticism on a messageboard has no effect on a football club.


Totally disagree for reasons discussed before.

This is the most popular RFC forum and *the* active discussion area for all things RFC and any player/staff who cares about the club who doesn't frequent this site needs their head seeing to or they need to climb out of the cardboard box they've been living in for the last 15 years!

Negativity after minimal signings and a bad run is expected. But the *extent* of the relentless negativity on here has been uncalled for, unfair, out of proportion, infectious and in many cases just plain stupid. And I'm not just talking about the usual suspect windup parasites.

It definitely filters through to the players/team/staff both directly and indirectly via spreading bad feelings amongst supporters.


Sorry, but that's just rubbish.

Fans opinions spouted on the internet has literally no, none, zilch, zero effect on the pitch.


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Re: Apologies here please:-

by Pat Butchers Ring » 09 Mar 2008 10:39

No one has to apologise but it goes to show how unreasible and unfounded the opinions of some people on here are. The lack of knowledge about football and just about anything is astounding at times. We will get relegated at some point but the fact we have Steve Coppell in charge means that we will come back, get rid of him and we wont.

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by Royal Lady » 09 Mar 2008 11:52

Pat Butchers Ring No one has to apologise but it goes to show how unreasible and unfounded the opinions of some people on here are. The lack of knowledge about football and just about anything is astounding at times. We will get relegated at some point but the fact we have Steve Coppell in charge means that we will come back, get rid of him and we wont.
And what if SC walks without being pushed? THAT is the worry we have ahead of us imho.

I'm not going to apologise for any comments/criticisms I may have made on here in the past - as I felt they were warranted at the time. I did say I thought SC had lost the plot with his team selections at times and with getting rid of Lita, so far he's been vindicated in his team selection for the last 2 games, but there's still a way to go. I've also said I thought Marek had something about him and those of us who said that from the outset were rubbished for our opinions. Each to their own, I say. Come the end of the season, should we stay up, no-one will louder and more vociferous than me in their support for the manager. We'll still need to make changes/buys however....

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Re: Apologies here please:-

by Huntley & Palmer » 09 Mar 2008 11:54

Sorry, but we aren't safe yet

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Re: Apologies here please:-

by Huntley & Palmer » 09 Mar 2008 11:56

2 world wars, 1 world cup
earleyroyal I'm sorry, criticism on a messageboard has no effect on a football club.


Totally disagree for reasons discussed before.

This is the most popular RFC forum and *the* active discussion area for all things RFC and any player/staff who cares about the club who doesn't frequent this site needs their head seeing to or they need to climb out of the cardboard box they've been living in for the last 15 years!

Negativity after minimal signings and a bad run is expected. But the *extent* of the relentless negativity on here has been uncalled for, unfair, out of proportion, infectious and in many cases just plain stupid. And I'm not just talking about the usual suspect windup parasites.

It definitely filters through to the players/team/staff both directly and indirectly via spreading bad feelings amongst supporters.

So a forum with active users that would account for less than 1% of a match day attendance filter through to the players. What a load misinformed bollocks


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Re: Apologies here please:-

by strap » 09 Mar 2008 12:15

Get real!!

We were extremely lucky at Middlesbrough, and having watched the replays on MoTD from yesterday, we were also extremely lucky not to have conceded 2 pens, (although at the game I felt they were both dives too, but slow-mo proved that wrong), and also having Dunne carried off.

In some respects, we have more to be worried about. All of sudden, we are 13th and everything in the garden is rosy???? You are having a laugh!!! For example, Oster still defies logic in that he is picked for the first XI ahead of footballers. Lita ... well don't even go there ... etc etc

However, at least yesterday we played some football! Mateovsky is clearly going to be key for us. Why oh why he was taken off is beyond me, (as is much of what Sir Steve has done this year). It was a clear signal with 15 odd mins left that we were going to shut up shop, when we all know we can't do that! The biggest plus point was the almost tangible injecion of confidence once we took the lead. It was a joy to behold, and it is a wonderful feeling being able to read the Sunday papaers knowing we're looking down the table on 7 clubs. Despite Doyler's lack of goals, his work rate is phenomenal, and he directy created both goals. The assist for Long's goal was obviousl, but it was the way he drew 2 defenders away from Kits, allowing him room to continue his run forward that really made me sit up and realise that even though he's not scoring right now, his contribution is still immense.

Just don't get caried away that everything is now wonderful in the team - 'cos it most certainly ain't!!

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Re: Apologies here please:-

by westendgirl » 09 Mar 2008 12:41

strap
Just don't get caried away that everything is now wonderful in the team - 'cos it most certainly ain't!!


Quite but apparently it was OK to get carried away and say everything was doom and gloom. As far as I am concerned the play yesterday was not so different to the previous months but we got 3 points, it is such a fine line between success and failure that the wholesale changes do not seem to me to be the solution. The tweaks in the team seem to have done enough to make the players just that little bit more determined and less nervous and long may it last.

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by sucatraps » 09 Mar 2008 13:03

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sucatraps Blimey! HNA in moderately intelligent and thoughtful dialogue with each other, without resorting to crass insults and polarized opinion :shock:


Shut it you tw@ :wink: :lol:


Nice! 8)

and to all other nobbers who misguidely think I am an RTG and would not "permit, allow or countenance any criticism" 1: I don't have the power, 2: I don't have the inclination. I may even have "with my tongue firmly in my cheek" been guilty of a provocative post title, but in all fairness I was merely pointing out that we amateur managers and coaches are quick to condemn and should perhaps be just as quick to congratulate. We are certainly not safe yet, but this is a new begining and hopefully we will consolidate and build again!

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Re: Apologies here please:-

by Southbank Old Boy » 09 Mar 2008 14:53

I don't see the need for any apologies on here from the majority.

Most of the comments and criticisms stand up as reasonable points of view and opinions. If anything the slight improvement in the teams play, and the dramatic improvements in the last two results, are proof that things need to change and those that were demanding some action from the club were perhaps correct.

The last two results will hopefully be the spring board to safety but there is a long way to go yet and we're nowhere near safe yet.


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Re: Apologies here please:-

by Royal Rother » 09 Mar 2008 15:25

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Just don't get caried away that everything is now wonderful in the team - 'cos it most certainly ain't!!


Quite but apparently it was OK to get carried away and say everything was doom and gloom. As far as I am concerned the play yesterday was not so different to the previous months but we got 3 points, it is such a fine line between success and failure that the wholesale changes do not seem to me to be the solution. The tweaks in the team seem to have done enough to make the players just that little bit more determined and less nervous and long may it last.


Good post.

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Re: Apologies here please:-

by shadesrwrf » 09 Mar 2008 15:31

It ain't over 'till the fat lady sings. Has Cilla been spotted recently?

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Re: Apologies here please:-

by Lower West » 09 Mar 2008 16:16

Yesterday we played a side that defended as well Reading have most of the season..........

I doubt if Birmingham, Wigan and Fulham will be so generous.....

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by brendywendy » 09 Mar 2008 16:28

as entertaining as this fight has been
its getting a bit tired

ok, so some people have been optimistic and had faith that we would turn it round, believing firmly that weve had a really tough run, against some very good teams, the only result we were gutted about was bolton, and since then weve really done well to dig out some results,our players are good enough, the signings will bed in and improve the team etc etc

others have been a bit more- none of our players are good enough, our managers gone mad, deserves the sack, the coaches are terrible, long looks like he will never score, ivar is past it, ship him out, bikeys a mentalist & should never play, rosenior is crap, cisse is crap, matejovski is crap, wally/dillon are off their heads saying well finish twelfth etc etc

another set of equally as likely circumstances either way could mean either is right or wrong at the end of the season-its about 50-50 still, but with aa combination of our last two results,. what i know about this teams attitude , and with my own blazing optimism i think we definately will make it.

however the likeley hood is that a mixture of the two opinions are correct
ie, there have been mistakes, but also we have a team here who are man enough to admit it, put it right to keep us where we belong.

clearly we both want us to do well, and stay up(well mostly.) i just wish we as fans could all just take a leaf out of stevie C and rudyard kiplings book, treating victory and defeat in the same way, rather than going off into wild predictions and i told you sos

still, i stand by my assertion that i can see no reason why we cant go the rest of the season unbeaten.........

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by Cpl Jones Dont panic » 09 Mar 2008 16:33

According to the Mail on Sunday [ so it must be true] Lita's debut was described as invisible, and he was meant to be our saviour !

Do we start thinking of how to say thanks to Murts , he must know that his remiership days are numbered. Yesterday showed that pace is a key requirement at this level.

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by sucatraps » 09 Mar 2008 16:35

brendywendy as entertaining as this fight has been
its getting a bit tired

ok, so some people have been optimistic and had faith that we would turn it round, believing firmly that weve had a really tough run, against some very good teams, the only result we were gutted about was bolton, and since then weve really done well to dig out some results,our players are good enough, the signings will bed in and improve the team etc etc

others have been a bit more- none of our players are good enough, our managers gone mad, deserves the sack, the coaches are terrible, long looks like he will never score, ivar is past it, ship him out, bikeys a mentalist & should never play, rosenior is crap, cisse is crap, matejovski is crap, wally/dillon are off their heads saying well finish twelfth etc etc

another set of equally as likely circumstances either way could mean either is right or wrong at the end of the season-its about 50-50 still, but with aa combination of our last two results,. what i know about this teams attitude , and with my own blazing optimism i think we definately will make it.

however the likeley hood is that a mixture of the two opinions are correct
ie, there have been mistakes, but also we have a team here who are man enough to admit it, put it right to keep us where we belong.

clearly we both want us to do well, and stay up(well mostly.) i just wish we as fans could all just take a leaf out of stevie C and rudyard kiplings book, treating victory and defeat in the same way, rather than going off into wild predictions and i told you sos

still, i stand by my assertion that i can see no reason why we cant go the rest of the season unbeaten.........


"Stone him, stone him" he's way to optimistic, or is that view too extreme? :)

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by brendywendy » 09 Mar 2008 16:38

strap Get real!!

We were extremely lucky at Middlesbrough, and having watched the replays on MoTD from yesterday, we were also extremely lucky not to have conceded 2 pens, (although at the game I felt they were both dives too, but slow-mo proved that wrong), and also having Dunne carried off.

In some respects, we have more to be worried about. All of sudden, we are 13th and everything in the garden is rosy???? You are having a laugh!!! For example, Oster still defies logic in that he is picked for the first XI ahead of footballers. Lita ... well don't even go there ... etc etc

However, at least yesterday we played some football! Mateovsky is clearly going to be key for us. Why oh why he was taken off is beyond me, (as is much of what Sir Steve has done this year). It was a clear signal with 15 odd mins left that we were going to shut up shop, when we all know we can't do that! The biggest plus point was the almost tangible injecion of confidence once we took the lead. It was a joy to behold, and it is a wonderful feeling being able to read the Sunday papaers knowing we're looking down the table on 7 clubs. Despite Doyler's lack of goals, his work rate is phenomenal, and he directy created both goals. The assist for Long's goal was obviousl, but it was the way he drew 2 defenders away from Kits, allowing him room to continue his run forward that really made me sit up and realise that even though he's not scoring right now, his contribution is still immense.

Just don't get caried away that everything is now wonderful in the team - 'cos it most certainly ain't!!


but when he took matejovsky off, he brought on cisse who layed on the ball for kitson for the goal didnt he?

either way, scoring a goal after the subs probably says we werent shutting up shop

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