Imbecile convention

[papereyes]

I actually think the imbeciles are the ones who prattle on about having faith but each to their own.

What is your definition of faith in this context? (Are you referring to faith in the management, or what?)

What is wrong with putting faith in a manager who has brought success to the club? Admittedly most managers do go past their sell-by date eventually - do you really think Coppell has gone past his and that a ruthless cull is required rather than trusting him to sort it out either this or next season?

Faith is belief without question, basically, and I simply think that a healthy questioning of decisions/motivations/what our plans our is part and parcel of being a fan.

To consistently go on that we/I should have faith when I have my doubts on some aspects of how the club is being run at the moment and good reasons for those doubts just seems really stupid. Over the summer, it was clear (to me) that we were going to struggle and no amount of faith in the management was going to change that, given that they had already made misteps and even mistakes.

That said, I really don't want Coppell to go. To change? Yes. To learn from this season? Yes. Likewise, I'd like to see the management above and around Coppell to take a look at this season and make suitable decisions and improvements. The only caveat to this is if I've utterly underestimated the financial disparity in the league and whether 19th is a relative success given our finances and status. I personally think we can compete with the team around and slightly above us and, with a bit of luck, we need not struggle.

[readingbedding]

Don't worry, he'll learn a lot from this season.
They all will.
I'm guessing that he's learnt that some of them aren't as mentally strong as what he thought they would be - if the chips were down.
And the chips are down.

That, has been the strangest thing for me.

[Forbury Lion]

The RAT has a special VIP area for nobbers, those without valid HNA usernames are just bitter and twisted. I suspect it was a group of those individuals that Cod spoke to as his story sounds a bit fishy to me.

[Royal Rother]

I actually think the imbeciles are the ones who prattle on about having faith but each to their own.

What is your definition of faith in this context? (Are you referring to faith in the management, or what?)

What is wrong with putting faith in a manager who has brought success to the club? Admittedly most managers do go past their sell-by date eventually - do you really think Coppell has gone past his and that a ruthless cull is required rather than trusting him to sort it out either this or next season?

Faith is belief without question, basically, and I simply think that a healthy questioning of decisions/motivations/what our plans our is part and parcel of being a fan.

Okay, your definition of faith is a little stronger than mine - I would go with allegiance and trust / belief in a person... that doesn't exclude the ability to question. Even though he himself admits to getting things wrong and not knowing quite what's going wrong on occasions (which I find refreshing rather than a weakness) there is still reason to believe and trust in his ability. (But I do understand what you're saying of course.)

PS Hope the house move went well!

[Big Ern]

I was in the Rose and Thistle on Sat, and the subject of Hobnob came up - to a man, everyone said they dont bother going on here due to the obssesive negativity, utter stupidity, abuse of our players and risble short termism of the posters on here.

I too am sick to death of it, and will not be coming back. Constructive criticism is one thing, but as soon as I saw Coppell, the greatest manager in our history, starting to get abuse for being bald - you pathetic weasels. Well done for poisoning this forum.

What a MASSIVE loss to the hobnob community.

[Super Kevin Bremner!]

I was also in the RAT on Saturday. It is the human equivalent of HNA. Groups and cliques of generally like-minded (i.e. all supporting RFC) individuals, but with differing opinions. It is a familiar place to go on a match day, linking as it does beautifully with our old West Reading roots. It is a forum, in a way, although generally the cliques clearly keep themselves to themselves. Each separate clique acknowledges each other's presence in the time-honoured manner of winking at each other or saying 'alright', now and again. It is part of the ritual of following our deficient, but loveable football team. It is no different perhaps, to the Royals Rendezvous, or the Spread. It has a slight cultural difference to the Nag's, perhaps, in a more cosmopolitan approach to burgers. Its greatest beauty is its distance from the town centre, yet proximity, which means it is a haven in which to drink and simply play out our pre-match rituals, which are indeed not much different to the thumb-sucking and breast-feeding we once exhibited as babies, and being able to avoid visiting fans, who are generally odious. We are all, in pursuing pleasure through the arcane and difficult nature of football, seeking comfort. The bus ride, the familiarity of Dave, our beloved driver, the pacifuing carbolic hiss of the toilets.

What does worry me is the appalling state of the pool cues. This disturbs me much more than any perceived spasticity on this website, which can always be avoided simply by not 'logging on' as they say in the modern vernacular. Yes, there are some real mongs at Reading, in and out of the virtual and real world, but that is how the human race is comprised. It is what has brought it to its optimum evolutionary state that we see it in today.

God bless HNA. God bless the RAT. And sympathies to the Nag's, which cannot be acronymed and therefore remains lower-case, until further notice.

Cue 'I'm not reading all that', from whomever.

That is all.

Carlsberg don't do geeky internet message board posts, but if they did.....

[Cookie]

I was in the Rose and Thistle on Sat, and the subject of Hobnob came up - to a man, everyone said they dont bother going on here due to the obssesive negativity, utter stupidity, abuse of our players and risble short termism of the posters on here.

I too am sick to death of it, and will not be coming back. Constructive criticism is one thing, but as soon as I saw Coppell, the greatest manager in our history, starting to get abuse for being bald - you pathetic weasels. Well done for poisoning this forum.

[Ian Herring]

I was also in the RAT on Saturday. It is the human equivalent of HNA. Groups and cliques of generally like-minded (i.e. all supporting RFC) individuals, but with differing opinions. It is a familiar place to go on a match day, linking as it does beautifully with our old West Reading roots. It is a forum, in a way, although generally the cliques clearly keep themselves to themselves. Each separate clique acknowledges each other's presence in the time-honoured manner of winking at each other or saying 'alright', now and again. It is part of the ritual of following our deficient, but loveable football team. It is no different perhaps, to the Royals Rendezvous, or the Spread. It has a slight cultural difference to the Nag's, perhaps, in a more cosmopolitan approach to burgers. Its greatest beauty is its distance from the town centre, yet proximity, which means it is a haven in which to drink and simply play out our pre-match rituals, which are indeed not much different to the thumb-sucking and breast-feeding we once exhibited as babies, and being able to avoid visiting fans, who are generally odious. We are all, in pursuing pleasure through the arcane and difficult nature of football, seeking comfort. The bus ride, the familiarity of Dave, our beloved driver, the pacifuing carbolic hiss of the toilets.

What does worry me is the appalling state of the pool cues. This disturbs me much more than any perceived spasticity on this website, which can always be avoided simply by not 'logging on' as they say in the modern vernacular. Yes, there are some real mongs at Reading, in and out of the virtual and real world, but that is how the human race is comprised. It is what has brought it to its optimum evolutionary state that we see it in today.

God bless HNA. God bless the RAT. And sympathies to the Nag's, which cannot be acronymed and therefore remains lower-case, until further notice.

Cue 'I'm not reading all that', from whomever.

That is all.

Carlsberg don't do geeky internet message board posts, but if they did.....

Ha ha. Fair.

[Cripple Creek]

Bye Cod. Your input will be missed but if that is really how you feel then I guess it's just one of those sad, crazy things. I'll try not to feel too rejected.

[seahawk10]

Thanks to Tartman I now know what the inside of the RAT looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyLCJY4rhfU