Hard to see any progress for the forseeable future

[Quagmire]

I do get it. What I don't get is why you think he thought any differently before signing the new contract or why you think I someone wants to treble his salary he won't be interested.

By signing the contract, the club and Kevin Doyle have clearing stated that a) he is not looking for a move in January and b) the club will not be selling him on the cheap in January.

If he hadn't signed the contract then Premiership clubs could believe Doyle was looking for a move or that we we looking to raise money. Thus the situation from an external point of view has clearly changed by him signing it.

I hope this helps.

[brendywendy]

this is embarrassing
this thread is awful.
please stop now.

when you say for the forseeable future, you mean from now, until a time up ahead.
if he had said at some point in the forseeable future he may have been more correct.
saying youll both wait till the end of the season before checking if youve been proven right or not is up to you, but it looks like youve been proven wrong already, at least in my eyes
especially over madejski, coppell, doyle and the dull and uninspiring bit.

however, i left my apology to the STG brigade till the day we went down, i see no reason why schards cant do the same

i just wish youd stop with the insults,and petty squabbling. just stop posting on the thread, and gloat at the end of the season if we finish midtable

[Schards#2]

I get the feeling that Schards doesn't understand the meaning of the word "imply".

I have to put my hands up Spacey, I dont know the meaning of the word "imply" nor do I have the mental capacity to look it up in a dictionary or online.

There's just no pulling the wool over your eyes is there?

[Sun Tzu]

And please see my post above the one you quoted Sun Tzu or whatever you're calling yourself these days, as I have tried to explain exactly what I believe Schards was getting at. As an aside, why DO you change your name every few months?

What you believe Schards was getting at is of less relevance than what he actually said.

Rather than dutifully trying to support him why not go and reread his post ? It is not about the end of the season, it states things that he thought were wrong on September 14th. Has the team lost it's spirit ? Has Coppell got the desire to build a new side ? Why wait until the end of the season to acknowledge that these things are simply wrong ?

As for the user name, not that it's actually any business of yours....
HNA can be horribly addictive and rather than get in the state that some people seem to have done where it takes over their life and rather destroys their ability to engage in normal social interaction i tend to post in bursts, when I think I've had enough I destroy the user id and simply stay away. If I fancy coming back I reregister. I never make a big thing of stopping posting, never see the need to announce I've returned and never get that involved in discussions about any previous ids. I've exchanged PMs with people who ask. I think some others may be well advised to take time out of HNA sometimes as well.

[brendywendy]

thats how i deal with class A drugs sun, very sensible
and a policy i wish i had the strength to persue in my dealings with hobnob

[Baines]

Schards, do you still think, with hindsight, that we should have got rid of Coppell in the summer and started afresh?

If he's going to leave in the summer, then possibly yes, in the long term that may have been better.

I don't know if he's going to leave in the summer but I believe he will.

Irrespective of league position?

In any event, I expect that you would now agree that the hindsight of September looks rather different to the hindsight of today.

[rabidbee]

I hope nobody minds me Moonlighting on this thread, but you can't blame a Die Hard fan like Schards for having Unbreakable pessimism after a relegation. As RL is a Die Hard 2, she also has The Siege mentality when it comes to anticipating our Apocalypse.

[brendywendy]

I hope nobody minds me Moonlighting on this thread, but you can't blame a Die Hard fan like Schards for having Unbreakable pessimism after a relegation. As RL is a Die Hard 2, she also has The Siege mentality when it comes to anticipating our Apocalypse.

bruce willis films today is it?

[AF1]

I hope nobody minds me Moonlighting on this thread, but you can't blame a Die Hard fan like Schards for having Unbreakable pessimism after a relegation. As RL is a Die Hard 2, she also has The Siege mentality when it comes to anticipating our Apocalypse.

The last boy scouting for trouble like this got a stern telling off from RL

[Baines]

I hope nobody minds me Moonlighting on this thread, but you can't blame a Die Hard fan like Schards for having Unbreakable pessimism after a relegation. As RL is a Die Hard 2, she also has The Siege mentality when it comes to anticipating our Apocalypse.

It would be more apt to note that we are witnessing a veritable Bonfire of the Vanities.

[Ian Royal]

I see we've entered a new phase of seige mentality.

There is clearly a a complete lack of any attempt at empathy on one side of the arguement. I look forward to the end of the season.

Particularly if we don't get promoted and Schards tries to explain that finishing 4th and failing narrowly in the play offs constitutes no progress and a dull and uninspiring midtable finish.

You stick to your guns Schards. It's what your good at. If you shout loud enough and only concentrate on specific interpretations of specific phrases, as you usually do, you may even force everyone else into giving up.

[Vision]

I hope nobody minds me Moonlighting on this thread, but you can't blame a Die Hard fan like Schards for having Unbreakable pessimism after a relegation. As RL is a Die Hard 2, she also has The Siege mentality when it comes to anticipating our Apocalypse.

Armageddon shirley?

[Sun Tzu]

I agree with Schards that Coppell may well decide at the end of the season that he wants a break. 5 1/2 years is a long time to manage a club, although having said that I don;t think he will find another club where the job is as good as it is here.

Having said that I think Coppell staying on last summer is almost certain to be the best thing that could have happened. He seems to have managed the post relegation situation extremely well. Cleared out the players who needed to go, brought in excellent replacements, restored the style and spirit of the team and put us in a very good situation. It's hard to imagine many other managers doing such a good job - there are only so many Harry Redknapps !

It may be that next summer will be a much easier time to transition to a new regime, although this is one where it is way too early to make the call.

[Wycombe Royal]

You clearly haven't, but if you don't have it in you to accept you got it wrong, it's a shame but there's nothing I can do to change that.

I have nothing to accept. You are the one who is totally blind to what everyone else is saying.

I'm actually beginning to think that you have your own language and that what we are all reading is different in our language to what it means in yours (and RL's obviously).

That is the only sane explanation that I can come up with.

[SpaceCruiser]

I hope nobody minds me Moonlighting on this thread, but you can't blame a Die Hard fan like Schards for having Unbreakable pessimism after a relegation. As RL is a Die Hard 2, she also has The Siege mentality when it comes to anticipating our Apocalypse.

Armageddon shirley?

Yeah, just what I was thinking. But we're all Friends on here, aren't we?

[rabidbee]

It would be more apt to note that we are witnessing a veritable Bonfire of the Vanities.

If Schards is left as The Last Man Standing, he'll be eating The Breakfast of Champions!

[rabidbee]

The last boy scouting for trouble like this got a stern telling off from RL

Oh yeah? Well, Look Who's Talking!

[rabidbee]

Armageddon shirley?

I wouldn't want anybody to think I was trying to Die Hard: With A Vengeance, but I'm Nobody's Fool, and I stand by what I wrote.

[Ian Royal]

I agree with Schards that Coppell may well decide at the end of the season that he wants a break. 5 1/2 years is a long time to manage a club, although having said that I don;t think he will find another club where the job is as good as it is here.

Having said that I think Coppell staying on last summer is almost certain to be the best thing that could have happened. He seems to have managed the post relegation situation extremely well. Cleared out the players who needed to go, brought in excellent replacements, restored the style and spirit of the team and put us in a very good situation. It's hard to imagine many other managers doing such a good job - there are only so many Harry Redknapps !

It may be that next summer will be a much easier time to transition to a new regime, although this is one where it is way too early to make the call.

Exactly what I was saying would hopefully happen before Coppell agreed to stay. It is not what happens with Coppell at the end of this season which was important. It was getting him to stay to turn the club around during this season which was.

Something he has clearly done. Unless of course anyone wants to argue that a team incapable of stringing wins together and playing unconvincingly with gaping holes in quality all over the pitch is in anyway comparable to a team scoring goals for fun, creating chances from all over the pitch with a good defensive record in 3rd place.

I'm sure the Duellists will be back at it shortly.

[Archie's penalty]

This thread is wonderful. You guys make me laugh. Waking up and finding five new pages of thread - crazy!