Just seen the Kebe red card...

[John 3:16]

Just seen that we are going to appeal... But will he be able to play tomorrow?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 763324.stm
Looks like, if it is rescinded then he will be able to play.

But are we going to appeal?

[woodley_royal_124]

The battle is the Lord's...............

[woodley_royal_124]

towserSL2crew said

bring back Graham Poll/

Yes......we miss singing ' You're worse than Graham Poll, you're worse than graham poll, you know you are, you're sure you are, you're worse than graham poll !'

[Sun Tzu]

From where I was sat it looked like the ref clearly indicated that an elbow had been used when the Reading players were hassling him. For what its worth I think it did us the world of good. Certainly upped the intensity of the performance and the ref may well have thought he'd made a mistake as he seemed to give us every marginal decision in the second half. After the Hume incident I'm not surprised that a ref didn't want to not send a player off aghainst Barnsley if he thought an elbow had been used. However its not like the Barnsley player was poleaxed, don't think he even moved let alone fell over.

The ref definately did gesture that an elbow had been used as he walked back towards the halfway line. This was wrong , but we have appealed anyway so hope we win.These refs this season are really shite, bring back Graham Poll/

If thats the case and thats what he's put in his report then that might explain why we have appealed as the video is pretty clear that there was no elbow used.

Indeed, if the report makes a specific allegation that the video disproves then we have a chance...

The 'raising your hands' thing is just another TV pundit cliche - like 'ball to hand'. And we all know how clued up on the laws the TV pundits are....

[RoyalBlue]

He raised his arms, therefore the red card will be justified in the FA's eyes.

The best he can hope for is a reduction.

There is no option for a 'reduction'.

Either it was violent conduct and a 3 match ban or it wasn't in which there is no ban.

I don't think there is any real chance it will be extended to 4 games though, it would have to be a ridiculous appeal for that. Raising your arms is not an automatic red card offence, if it were there would be loads of red cards every week. We've seen in recent games at the Mad Stad that players approach each other with raised arms regularly and nothing is done.

Quite right, and look at the pushing/shoving and even flick of the leg that happened right under the nose of the Asst Ref at yesterday's inbreds derby. I think both players got let off with a quick word from the ref (not even a yellow).

I think Coppell was probably right when he stated that it was the Assistant's 15 minutes at the Barnsley game and he couldn't wait to get involved.

6ft Kerplunk also makes a very valid point about the 'Barnsley/Hume' syndrome. The crowd were always going to bay like mad for blood if anyone so much as looked in a violent manner towards one of their players and the officials should have been aware of that and been careful not to allow it to influence their decisions.

[Hoop Blah]

The 'raising your hands' thing is just another TV pundit cliche - like 'ball to hand'. And we all know how clued up on the laws the TV pundits are....

To an extent I agree about it being a TV pundits throw away line, but, if you take it to mean swing your hands at an opponent in any fashion, which is basically what anyone really means by 'rasing your arms,' then the authorities take it to mean violent conduct and will back a ref's decision 99.9% of the time.

[brendywendy]

if he raised his hands he has no chance of rescinding it
surprised at coppell to be fair

[Percy's Rocket]

l thought the reason they did not appeal Bikey's red card was that the incident was hidden from the camera by a pillar..yet the video I saw shed no real light on what Jimmy did or didn't do (though most on here said it was harsh)..anyway a decision will be made in time for him to play (or not) tomorrow night. Could it be SC has taken a punt as the options to cover JK are not as clear as those for AB ?? Hope it works though as I am not certain what the best alternative is..Henry, Convey, Bryn, Marek ..none ideal as on the previous Henry thread

[bishbosh92]

Yh im puzzled to!!

u couldnt really see clearly on the championship so dunno how we have the evidnece here and not for Bikeys Red.

But weve obv got sumthing or we wouldnt be appealing, and have to Agree wiv Bikey we have strong cover with Dobbs but for Kebe im not sure if Convey and Henry are up to it!

[S09Royal]

I think Jimmy's red card was harsher than Bikey's.
You can cleary see what Jimmy did on the footage i've seen and he didn't exactly push the Barnsley guy over which isn't exactly violent conduct. That Morgan guy SHOULD'VE been sent off for the challenge he made on a Barnsley player-almost killing him, but didn't even recieve a ban. IMHO Reading should've appealed against Bikey's. Refs don't like us, our last two away matches have proved that, by sending off innocent players. If you raise your arm you're banned for violent conduct even if there was no intent yet if you kick someone in the head almost killing them, you run away scot free. It's a weird world. I hope the FA overturn the red card for Kebe. We need him.

[Sun Tzu]

Perhaps there is additional footage of the Kebe incident ?

Perhaps the referee's report describes the kebe incident differently to the footage available ?

Perhaps the referee has suggested to the club that there may be grounds for appeal which he would not contest ?

Perhaps after two contentious red cards the club want to use the appeal to make a point of some kind ?

Whatever the case I doubt that the club have simply decided to treat this totally differently the the Bikey incident for a laugh...

[Sun Tzu]

if he raised his hands he has no chance of rescinding it
surprised at coppell to be fair

Of course he has. If it wasn't violent conduct then simply 'raising your hands' is not a red card offence !

There has been a suggestion that Souza actually instigated the incident and if Kebe raised his hands or pushed Souza away in self defence he's got no case to answer. There are loads of situations in which players raise their hands but don't get carded...

[bishbosh92]

Perhaps there is additional footage of the Kebe incident ?

Perhaps the referee's report describes the kebe incident differently to the footage available ?

Perhaps the referee has suggested to the club that there may be grounds for appeal which he would not contest ?

Perhaps after two contentious red cards the club want to use the appeal to make a point of some kind ?

Whatever the case I doubt that the club have simply decided to treat this totally differently the the Bikey incident for a laugh...

Well whatever it is there deffinatly something, as a agree we wouldnt treat it differently for a laugh.

[RFCBoy]

Watched it on Big League Weekend this evening and i laughed as it was so ridiculous.

Check out this thread from the barnsley unoffical site talking about Rosenoir

http://boards.footymad.net/mboard/fmb.p ... 2127585177

[Percy's Rocket]

Great to see Rossy finding his feet and sticking up for himself..he has got presence...just watching Oster on TV.Not exactly like Jimmy eh...I know most people on here hated him but still think he could play a bit..seemed to be remembered for stupid errors and awaful finishing ..oh..he's just been taken off...so there's a novelty.

[Royalwaster]

But are we going to appeal?

[rfcjoe]

yep, os says it.

[bishbosh92]

Oh not good

must of had a shocker or got injured!!

[rfcjoe]

not a shocker but was at fault for the first goal and saints have changed their shape so Pearcey had to be sacrificed.

[S09Royal]

Oh not good

must of had a shocker or got injured!!

Oster?
I didn't even realise he played for Crystal Palace until i read it in the paper last weekend.