Marek... a debate

[winchester_royal]

You need to lighten up.

No I don't.

[rabidbee]

...you stupid biased prick.

<Irony alert!>

[Archie's penalty]

...you stupid biased pr*ck.

<Irony alert!>

And edit those cursewords.

[rg6royal]

Cisse and Matejovsky in the middle will be good imo.

[rabidbee]

Coppell has as good as said that Harper, Cissé and Convey will play on saturday.

http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/NewsDet ... 70,00.html

[rg6royal]

Coppell has as good as said that Harper, Cissé and Convey will play on saturday.

http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/NewsDet ... 70,00.html

Will be interesting to see how hungry Convey is or whether he isn't bothered at all and is definately heading for the exit come January.

[Archie's penalty]

Coppell has as good as said that Harper, Cissé and Convey will play on saturday.

http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/NewsDet ... 70,00.html

Will be interesting to see how hungry Convey is or whether he isn't bothered at all and is definately heading for the exit come January.

I think it will be good to see Convey getting a game. Shunt has looked pretty tired in the last couple of weeks. Also think that Coppell maybe should start Long up front with Doyle and bring Nhunt on as an impact sub.

Anyway in general this all shows that Copps seems to know what he is doing. It is comforting to know he has a plan.

[brendywendy]

thought marek was ok on tuesday night
didnt give the ball away any more or less than our other players, but also showed far more potential for creation, ability to hold and pass the ball under pressure, and i also thought midway through the second half he had a great period of sweeping up in his own half, running everywhere in an attempt to grab the game by the scruff of the neck
for his first start he was decent i thought
as for henry, ill give him a few more games in possession of the shirt before i judge, but i thought he had a tendency to hold onto the ball too long, and try and do it himself instead of an easy pass, but he worked hard defensively, and also did ok in a less than fluent team performance
more changes look certain for saturday, and its good to see the squad being used, lets hope it doesnt cost us points
its certainly good to see the fragility pinpointed by coppell seems to have been replaced by a bit of steel
good stuff all round really
hoping convey has a good game on saturday, deserves his start as hunty has been industrious, but apart from dead ball, inneffective recently-hopefully not as a result of arranging his route out of reading in january

[The Surgeon of Crowthorne]

Coppell has as good as said that Harper, Cissé and Convey will play on saturday.

http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/NewsDet ... 70,00.html

Will be interesting to see how hungry Convey is or whether he isn't bothered at all and is definately heading for the exit come January.

I think it will be good to see Convey getting a game. Shunt has looked pretty tired in the last couple of weeks. Also think that Coppell maybe should start Long up front with Doyle and bring Nhunt on as an impact sub.

Anyway in general this all shows that Copps seems to know what he is doing. It is comforting to know he has a plan.

I doubt it will be Convey instead of SHunt - more like instead of Henry.

[Arch]

Hunt may not be fit. That's where Convey comes in.

[rabidbee]

There's a doubt over Hunt, but he's training again, so I expect it will be Convey in for Henry. I'd be worried if it was Convey and Henry with SHunt on the bench.

[Archie's penalty]

There's a doubt over Hunt, but he's training again, so I expect it will be Convey in for Henry. I'd be worried if it was Convey and Henry with SHunt on the bench.

Why, too lightweight for your liking?

[rabidbee]

Not enough final product. For all that Hunty can be infuriating - repeatedly trying to win a corner with a silly back-heel when it kept failing on tuesday - he and Kébé have been the main source of our goals this season. I'd like to be proven wrong about Henry, and I'd like Convey to rediscover his old form, but I worry if both are put in the same team together. Still, sink or swim, I guess.

[bcubed]

thought marek was ok on tuesday night
didnt give the ball away any more or less than our other players, but also showed far more potential for creation, ability to hold and pass the ball under pressure, and i also thought midway through the second half he had a great period of sweeping up in his own half, running everywhere in an attempt to grab the game by the scruff of the neck
for his first start he was decent i thought
as for henry, ill give him a few more games in possession of the shirt before i judge, but i thought he had a tendency to hold onto the ball too long, and try and do it himself instead of an easy pass, but he worked hard defensively, and also did ok in a less than fluent team performance
more changes look certain for saturday, and its good to see the squad being used, lets hope it doesnt cost us points
its certainly good to see the fragility pinpointed by coppell seems to have been replaced by a bit of steel
good stuff all round really
hoping convey has a good game on saturday, deserves his start as hunty has been industrious, but apart from dead ball, inneffective recently-hopefully not as a result of arranging his route out of reading in january

I refer you to me previous post on this subject

If I had any doubts that many people on here are incapable of objective analysis this thread proves it.

I have no axe to grind about any of our players but anyone watching that first half who thought Marek played well is either ignorant of all things football or more likely just seeing what they want to see.

In half an hour Marek gave the ball away more than 6 times, made zero tackles and played one decent through pass. He looked lacking in fitness and confidence and was below par to say the least.

I personally think he is worth starting with and has clearly played many better games than this, but please, can't you just watch the game and judge the players on what you see not your preconceived notions.

He wasn't much better on Saturday and was caught in possession, apparently waiting for something to happen, at least four times

[mg1976royal]

thought marek was ok on tuesday night
didnt give the ball away any more or less than our other players, but also showed far more potential for creation, ability to hold and pass the ball under pressure, and i also thought midway through the second half he had a great period of sweeping up in his own half, running everywhere in an attempt to grab the game by the scruff of the neck
for his first start he was decent i thought
as for henry, ill give him a few more games in possession of the shirt before i judge, but i thought he had a tendency to hold onto the ball too long, and try and do it himself instead of an easy pass, but he worked hard defensively, and also did ok in a less than fluent team performance
more changes look certain for saturday, and its good to see the squad being used, lets hope it doesnt cost us points
its certainly good to see the fragility pinpointed by coppell seems to have been replaced by a bit of steel
good stuff all round really
hoping convey has a good game on saturday, deserves his start as hunty has been industrious, but apart from dead ball, inneffective recently-hopefully not as a result of arranging his route out of reading in january

I refer you to me previous post on this subject

If I had any doubts that many people on here are incapable of objective analysis this thread proves it.

I have no axe to grind about any of our players but anyone watching that first half who thought Marek played well is either ignorant of all things football or more likely just seeing what they want to see.

In half an hour Marek gave the ball away more than 6 times, made zero tackles and played one decent through pass. He looked lacking in fitness and confidence and was below par to say the least.

I personally think he is worth starting with and has clearly played many better games than this, but please, can't you just watch the game and judge the players on what you see not your preconceived notions.

He wasn't much better on Saturday and was caught in possession, apparently waiting for something to happen, at least four times

greed

Wide on the right did not suit him and match fitness needs to be improved but only one way to do that. Think he should start against brum but in a more central role.

[Cookie]

Matejovsky is a class act and Coppell has him firmly in his plans. (Hence the low squad number)

He's got plenty of skill and a delightful eye for a pass and he's still coming back from a long injury break. Given time he will amaze you.

Coppell looks as though he is prepared to sacrifice his rigid team line up to accommodate him because he believes he's worth it. We've had loads of unforced changes in the midfield recently, by Coppell standards.

[bcubed]

Matejovsky is a class act and Coppell has him firmly in his plans. (Hence the low squad number)

He's got plenty of skill and a delightful eye for a pass and he's still coming back from a long injury break. Given time he will amaze you.

Coppell looks as though he is prepared to sacrifice his rigid team line up to accommodate him because he believes he's worth it. We've had loads of unforced changes in the midfield recently, by Coppell standards.

That's not in doubt as far as I am concerned. What is irritating is people who think he is currently playing well - he isn't

[winchester_royal]

Matejovsky is a class act and Coppell has him firmly in his plans. (Hence the low squad number)

He's got plenty of skill and a delightful eye for a pass and he's still coming back from a long injury break. Given time he will amaze you.

Coppell looks as though he is prepared to sacrifice his rigid team line up to accommodate him because he believes he's worth it. We've had loads of unforced changes in the midfield recently, by Coppell standards.

That's not in doubt as far as I am concerned. What is irritating is people who think he is currently playing well - he isn't

Then why did Coppell not take him off yesterday?

He is a breed of footballer who is infuriating to watch, because of the occasional slack pass, but is 10x more useful than the dull and ineffective (on current form) Harper.

[bcubed]

Matejovsky is a class act and Coppell has him firmly in his plans. (Hence the low squad number)

He's got plenty of skill and a delightful eye for a pass and he's still coming back from a long injury break. Given time he will amaze you.

Coppell looks as though he is prepared to sacrifice his rigid team line up to accommodate him because he believes he's worth it. We've had loads of unforced changes in the midfield recently, by Coppell standards.

That's not in doubt as far as I am concerned. What is irritating is people who think he is currently playing well - he isn't

Then why did Coppell not take him off yesterday?



He is a breed of footballer who is infuriating to watch, because of the occasional slack pass, but is 10x more useful than the dull and ineffective (on current form) Harper.

It's not useful to give the ball away regularly
It's not useful to be caught in possession (4 times yesterday)
I believe Coppell kept him on despite the way he was playing because he does see him having a major role and because he wants him match fit

[winchester_royal]

You seem to forget he was playing out of position for the majority of the match yesterday. And he didn't give the bal away that much.

HTH.