Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by Big Foot » 29 Dec 2008 13:28

Section 27's being dished out like Xmas cards by Hampshire police yesterday

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by Dirk Gently » 29 Dec 2008 13:29

Really?

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by Big Foot » 29 Dec 2008 13:33

Yep - totally ridiculous over-policing at Southampton station as I'm sure others will confirm.

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by Thames » 29 Dec 2008 13:55

Yep. Over zealous is an understatement.

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by Sarah Star » 29 Dec 2008 15:02

Surely it's the heavy-handed attitude that is going to put people's backs up in the first place and create a crowd bruising for a fight?

My hubby took my daughter home early from the Cardiff game and was surprised to see the gates shut on the hill we normally walk down. He didn't know which way to go, but when he asked the stewards there what to do they just told him to go away in no uncertain terms. A different incident I know, but this made him feel quite angry at being treated like a trouble-maker when he was nothing of the sort.


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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by RoyalBlue » 04 Jan 2009 12:04

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Dirk Gently I think the wording is that they need "reasonable suspicion" that there will be "alcohol related trouble."

That is a horribly-drawn law, completely open to interpretation. Interestingly, the Home Office guidance on this is more specific and includes safeguards - it's this document that is being utterly ignored by certain Police Forces!


You are correct, it is badly written legislation with no real definition it seems. Even the Crown Prosecution Service don't recognise it.


In the last few years our politicians appear to be making a habit of waving through badly written legislation. This is just one of many.

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by davis69 » 14 Jan 2009 23:11

I think the police should be concentrating more on the more important things in this country like knife crime and gang culture instead of worrying about football which violence doesn't occur that much anymore

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by Dirk Gently » 15 Jan 2009 07:41

Police apologise to football fans

A good sign, but still a long way to go in this case.....

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by T.R.O.L.I. » 15 Jan 2009 07:42

What are the odds of a similar misuse of Section 27 somewhere between Reading and Paddington on Sat 31/01? :roll:


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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by Dirk Gently » 15 Jan 2009 11:52

Unlikely - there are no reports of the Met using this, or BTP, and if people are drunk and acting like twats there are plenty of other pieces of legislation that can be used against them without a S27.

But South Yorkshire Police in Doncaster have used this, so be there's an outside chance the following Tuesday. I doubt it though, as news of this case is spreading across Police Forums etc so they seem to be waiing for the outcome of the Stoke/GMP case before applying it again to football supporters.

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by Big Foot » 02 Feb 2009 17:38

Met using them on sober civilians on Saturday. Shameful.

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by 66DD » 03 Feb 2009 11:38

Big Foot Met using them on sober civilians on Saturday. Shameful.



Where abouts were the Met issuing Section 27 notices and where were the notices instructing people to vacate from and to where?

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by STAR Voice » 03 Feb 2009 11:41

Big Foot Section 27's being dished out like Xmas cards by Hampshire police yesterday

Big Foot Met using them on sober civilians on Saturday. Shameful.


66DD Where abouts were the Met issuing Section 27 notices and where were the notices instructing people to vacate from and to where?


I think you're giving slightly too much credibility to one of this board's best-established wind-up merchants.


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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by .:BigDaveInTheDungeon:. » 12 Mar 2009 19:36

lock up the lot of them, bloody yobo's

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Re: Section 27 - Warning for away travellers

by Row Z Royal » 12 Mar 2009 21:11

.:BigDaveInTheDungeon:. lock up the lot of them, bloody yobo's


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