SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by M U R T Y » 02 Jan 2009 13:25

Routledge is gash

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Ian Royal » 02 Jan 2009 13:25

Deathy And yet we've needed a right winger for what, 2 years?

Chris Eagles, a snip at £1m and went to Burnley.
Wayna Routledge, a bargain at £300k, going to QPR.

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6 months, We got Kebe, he didn't get up to speed for 6 months. Now he is and we also have Henry. Hardly 2 years. :roll:

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by SpaceCruiser » 02 Jan 2009 13:27

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Deathy And yet we've needed a right winger for what, 2 years?

Chris Eagles, a snip at £1m and went to Burnley.
Wayna Routledge, a bargain at £300k, going to QPR.

:roll:


6 months, We got Kebe, he didn't get up to speed for 6 months. Now he is and we also have Henry. Hardly 2 years. :roll:


Agreed. Jay is just being, well, Jay.

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Row Z Royal » 02 Jan 2009 16:24

The Prisoner Cracking young ambitious player


He's average and an arse.

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by IMAMATEOFJOVSKY » 02 Jan 2009 17:01

16.45 Queens Park Rangers have confirmed the signing of Wayne Routledge on a three-and-a-half year deal. The Aston Villa wide man spurned Cardiff to move to Loftus Road.

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Deathy » 02 Jan 2009 19:04

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Deathy And yet we've needed a right winger for what, 2 years?

Chris Eagles, a snip at £1m and went to Burnley.
Wayna Routledge, a bargain at £300k, going to QPR.

:roll:


6 months, We got Kebe, he didn't get up to speed for 6 months. Now he is and we also have Henry. Hardly 2 years. :roll:


We have needed a right winger for almost 2 seasons now! Kebe is still learning, but is promising, and you can't count on Henry just yet.

We still need a right winger IMO.

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by SCIAG » 02 Jan 2009 20:42

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Deathy And yet we've needed a right winger for what, 2 years?

Chris Eagles, a snip at £1m and went to Burnley.
Wayna Routledge, a bargain at £300k, going to QPR.

:roll:


6 months, We got Kebe, he didn't get up to speed for 6 months. Now he is and we also have Henry. Hardly 2 years. :roll:


We have needed a right winger for almost 2 seasons now! Kebe is still learning, but is promising, and you can't count on Henry just yet.

We still need a right winger IMO.

Two years ago Little was fit, Seol was in form and so was Oster.

After Seol left with Little unfit, we needed a winger. The best solution ended up being our left winger on the right, which worked well and would've been used for the remainder of the season if Convey hadn't've got crocked. Effectively, we had three "right wingers" injured. We bought in another and then Oster got fit. Little and Convey were both expected back by the end of Febuary, but it was the opinion of most (including myself) that we should've got short term proven cover. I don't know why I'm saying all this.

Basically, we needed a right winger for about 9 months, from Sept to May.

Kebe is more than good enough and Henry is too, every club below Brum in the league (possibly excluding QPR) would give a lot to have either in their side.

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Ian Royal » 02 Jan 2009 20:45

Spot on, but good luck talking any sense into Jay.

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Southbank Old Boy » 02 Jan 2009 21:10

All depends on how you rated Seol amd Oster I guess

I think we probably needed a right winger for around 18 months as it must've been pretty clear that Seol wasnt happy being here and not getting in the side every week and Oster just wasnt up to playing in the Prem


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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by SCIAG » 02 Jan 2009 22:55

Southbank Old Boy All depends on how you rated Seol amd Oster I guess

I think we probably needed a right winger for around 18 months as it must've been pretty clear that Seol wasnt happy being here and not getting in the side every week and Oster just wasnt up to playing in the Prem

I rated Seol but from around February time (conviently) his attitude stank. Oster was alright in the Prem, it's just our own fans moronically booed him.

Signing another right winger in the summer would've been suicide, with Little expected back in October and Seol and Oster providing cover, plus Fae and Doyle if need be.

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by 1871royals » 03 Jan 2009 01:01

Deathy We still need a right winger IMO.


Why do we need a right winger?

Kebe has set up the joint 3rd most in the division. This his first season playing regularly in England and hes setting up loads of goals.

The club have also given him a new contract which demonstrates they are pleased with his performances.

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Royal Rother » 03 Jan 2009 01:14

Jay's a feeble joke when it comes to matters RFC.

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Row Z Royal » 03 Jan 2009 12:01

Royal Rother Jay's a feeble joke.


That's better.


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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Southbank Old Boy » 03 Jan 2009 14:07

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Southbank Old Boy All depends on how you rated Seol amd Oster I guess

I think we probably needed a right winger for around 18 months as it must've been pretty clear that Seol wasnt happy being here and not getting in the side every week and Oster just wasnt up to playing in the Prem

I rated Seol but from around February time (conviently) his attitude stank. Oster was alright in the Prem, it's just our own fans moronically booed him.

Signing another right winger in the summer would've been suicide, with Little expected back in October and Seol and Oster providing cover, plus Fae and Doyle if need be.


Oster was never good enough for the Prem, thats why Coppell bought in Seol when he had the chance

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Samrfc01 » 03 Jan 2009 16:16

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SCIAG Oster was alright in the Prem, it's just our own fans moronically booed him.

Oster was never good enough for the Prem


Agreed, Oster was never more than a poor attempt at a bad joke, anyone who saw that guy on the pitch and thought "now there is a premier league winger" would have to be either blind or stupid, and perhaps a little of both!



Would be pretty decent at this level though

I still think we should have kept him
For all the stick he got, he wasnt acually that bad

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by SCIAG » 03 Jan 2009 16:39

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SCIAG Oster was alright in the Prem, it's just our own fans moronically booed him.

Oster was never good enough for the Prem


Agreed, Oster was never more than a poor attempt at a bad joke, anyone who saw that guy on the pitch and thought "now there is a premier league winger" would have to be either blind or stupid, and perhaps a little of both!

He was "alright", one of his disadvantages was he saw passes that the rest of the team didn't, much like with Matejovsky, then when he pulled them off, the player hadn't made the run, to a huge groan from the crowd. Not good enough for a team wanting to do any more than scrape away from relegation unless they're all on the same wavelength, but not nearly as bad as some made out (such as the elderly couple behind me).

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Deathy » 03 Jan 2009 17:02

SCIAG Two years ago Little was fit, Seol was in form and so was Oster.

After Seol left with Little unfit, we needed a winger. The best solution ended up being our left winger on the right, which worked well and would've been used for the remainder of the season if Convey hadn't've got crocked. Effectively, we had three "right wingers" injured. We bought in another and then Oster got fit. Little and Convey were both expected back by the end of Febuary, but it was the opinion of most (including myself) that we should've got short term proven cover. I don't know why I'm saying all this.

Basically, we needed a right winger for about 9 months, from Sept to May.

Kebe is more than good enough and Henry is too, every club below Brum in the league (possibly excluding QPR) would give a lot to have either in their side.


My fault for not saying what I mean. 2 years - 2 seasons... I meant 2 seasons. This and last season we have known and needed a right winger!

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Southbank Old Boy » 03 Jan 2009 17:29

SCIAG He was "alright", one of his disadvantages was he saw passes that the rest of the team didn't, much like with Matejovsky, then when he pulled them off, the player hadn't made the run, to a huge groan from the crowd. Not good enough for a team wanting to do any more than scrape away from relegation unless they're all on the same wavelength, but not nearly as bad as some made out (such as the elderly couple behind me).


That is just the lamest excuse for a player giving the ball away

If he's that good and such a visionary he should be able to adapt his play to suit the occassion and his team mates

Osters problem was that he wasn't disciplined enough to defender well enough and he wasn't a good enough passer or dribbler of the ball to counter that weakness. He gave the ball away too much and didn't add enough to the team because he's make poor decisions

He's a reasonable winger in this division true, but not really in the way we play. Thats why Coppell very rarely played him

In terms of keeping him for another season as we were down in this league, well he'd just ahve been holding back Henry's development and we knew he wasn't worth keeping for the Prem. He probably wanted a longer and more lucrative contract than we thought he was worth it

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by Platypuss » 03 Jan 2009 17:33

Doing a job for Palace at the mo, but wouldn't/shouldn't be figuring for a truly top team.

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Re: SPECULATION - Wayne Routledge

by SCIAG » 03 Jan 2009 18:53

Jay, we haven't needed a right winger this season

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SCIAG He was "alright", one of his disadvantages was he saw passes that the rest of the team didn't, much like with Matejovsky, then when he pulled them off, the player hadn't made the run, to a huge groan from the crowd. Not good enough for a team wanting to do any more than scrape away from relegation unless they're all on the same wavelength, but not nearly as bad as some made out (such as the elderly couple behind me).


That is just the lamest excuse for a player giving the ball away

If he's that good and such a visionary he should be able to adapt his play to suit the occassion and his team mates

Osters problem was that he wasn't disciplined enough to defender well enough and he wasn't a good enough passer or dribbler of the ball to counter that weakness. He gave the ball away too much and didn't add enough to the team because he's make poor decisions

He's a reasonable winger in this division true, but not really in the way we play. Thats why Coppell very rarely played him

In terms of keeping him for another season as we were down in this league, well he'd just ahve been holding back Henry's development and we knew he wasn't worth keeping for the Prem. He probably wanted a longer and more lucrative contract than we thought he was worth it

Our side have little vision, the players know where the rest of the side will be and how to play it to them, only slight variation is needed. I think the perfect example of this is Oster's cross field ball that Shorey should clearly have ran onto against Blackburn. Oster isn't/wasn't a great visionary at all, it's just he had a PL education, most of our side didn't (Harper and Sidwell the exceptions, Lita to a lesser extent), ergo he naturally has better vision than the rest of the side (that doesn't mean his is any good though).
I could've sworn there was a very good reason, about 6'3, that Oster didn't get in the side more often... he still made a lot of appearances for us in 05-06, mostly from the bench. He wasn't ideal for our system, I don't think anyone will claim otherwise, but we've had worse players, and we'll have worse players. Oster was probably a better player than Hunt, just less effective as he wasn't as quick. I'm rambling now, but basically Oster wasn't as bad as the boos made out.

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