Transfer Window to be our downfall again???

[westendgirl]

Listening to the 5Live Monday night club last night it was said that the January window does tend to lead to panic buys unlike the summer window. So do we need to panic?

[Stranded]

I don't think one or two astute signings now would be a panic. We have a squad good enough now probably to finish in the top 2 or even win the division and the settled side is taking shape and picking up points each game.

However, the squad is not strong enough for the Prem so if the right player comes along that can challenge now and improve the squad then I think we will take that plunge. If we keep everyone, which bar a slight worry re Hunt is more than likely then we are in a very strong position.

We have a 10 day gap with no games coming up, so I would anticipate any moves to happen during that period.

[Mr Angry]

Listening to the 5Live Monday night club last night it was said that the January window does tend to lead to panic buys unlike the summer window. So do we need to panic?

I think the only panic buys we have made in January have been Doobs (when Sonko did his cruciate) and Halford (Coppell admitted we moved quicker for him then they would have liked as other teams - Sheff Utd specifically - were about to pounce and it was felt that the gamble was a worthwhile one )

I think the need to purchase this month have diminished considerably IF we are definately going to keep both Doyle and Lita (a striker would be a priority otherwise). The other worthy purchase would be for a LB/LW as cover for both Armstrong and as a possible replacement if SHunt goes. This would be, IMHO, a good use of money as my biggest fear is that a Premiership side will come in at the very last minute for SHunt and we are then left a little light down the left as we wouldn't have time to then buy anyone.

[Gus the teenage cow]

birmingham are spending big

wolves are not yet spending big but are being linked with players of high transfer value


our two targets look like being hreidarsson (50k) and jay tabb (200K).....i realise that the madejski-coppell axis has been criticised many times before for the cautious and pragmatic approach to investment and if we hold on to doyle and hunt i think our squad will be in pretty good shape BUT and it's a big BUT will birmingham have improved to such an extent that they will consign us to the play-offs. I think it's a possibility so to negate this risk I believe we must do what we have steadfastly refused to do in recent seasons, pay big money for 2 or 3 qualty players, a gamble of say 7-8 million will seem a small outlay if it all but guarantees premier league football and the vast riches that await us there.

My fears are

1. coppell-madejski don't have the courage or character to sanction such investment
2. the rtg's will blast me with the usual "we don't want to upset the applekart/things are great as they are/new players need time to gel" guff which quite frankly makes them nothing more than apologists for a modest secure solvent club that although performing adequately at the moment yet again betrays a singular lack of ambition/willingness to really go for the jugular and make the great leap forward. Our club moves in small steps, it's enough to keep us ahead of the pack at the moment but those who risk taking great strides will always ultimately overtake us.

[Thaumagurist*]

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[Alan Partridge]

F***'s sake, Gus!!!!

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You'll live

[Sun Tzu]

a gamble of say 7-8 million will seem a small outlay if it all but guarantees premier league football
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It doesn't though, does it.

[Ian Royal]

Bringing in a replacemet because you have someone injured is not a panic buy, it's bloody sensible!

I just don't think Coppell does panic buys. He may make some duff calls and go for players he perhaps didn't have down as first choice to come in, but panic buys just doesn't seem like him.

[BallRoyal]

Gus mate you really are a prize twat again, you are so good at it, perhaps you should make a career of it.

[Arch]

There is no necessary truth in the statement that because our competitors sign new players we effectively go backwards. It depends on relative needs and the identity of the new pl;ayers. In fact I suspect Brum's signing of Bowyer represents an effective step forwards for us.

In a tight race, we do need to pay attention to what others are doing. Last January, Fulham and Bolton were in more desperate straights than we were and when they bought it looked like desperation (I almost certainly said so at the time ). But they bought well and the rest is history. The right players could transform Birmingham's season, as they already have a lot of talent at the club but don't seem to be making the most of it.

[S09Royal]

ALOL @ you all taking this seriously and getting annoyed.

RELAX.

Oh and...we don't need to 'gamble' to help us get promoted. The players we have atm are quite capable of achieving promotion.

[Franchise FC]

There is no necessary truth in the statement that because our competitors sign new players we effectively go backwards. It depends on relative needs and the identity of the new pl;ayers. In fact I suspect Brum's signing of Bowyer represents an effective step forwards for us.

In a tight race, we do need to pay attention to what others are doing. Last January, Fulham and Bolton were in more desperate straights than we were and when they bought it looked like desperation (I almost certainly said so at the time ). But they bought well and the rest is history. The right players could transform Birmingham's season, as they already have a lot of talent at the club but don't seem to be making the most of it.

Fulham bought so well that it was the return from injury of their two best players that kept them up.

[Platypuss]

There is no necessary truth in the statement that because our competitors sign new players we effectively go backwards. It depends on relative needs and the identity of the new pl;ayers. In fact I suspect Brum's signing of Bowyer represents an effective step forwards for us.

In a tight race, we do need to pay attention to what others are doing. Last January, Fulham and Bolton were in more desperate straights than we were and when they bought it looked like desperation (I almost certainly said so at the time ). But they bought well and the rest is history. The right players could transform Birmingham's season, as they already have a lot of talent at the club but don't seem to be making the most of it.

Fulham bought so well that it was the return from injury of their two best players that kept them up.

Or the bedding-in of their new signings? Hangeland for instance has been a virtual ever-present since signing.

[Ian Royal]

We didn't buy well enough last season. This is something that is not open to debate.

Rosenior - decent signing, but didn't play well and wasn't in a hugely influential position in terms of winnign games.
Cisse - not good enough to make an impact
Fae - duff signing that was not predictable
Matejovsky - good signing, but too late and not the right player to turn our season around
Kebe - not good enough to make an immediate impact, possibly not good enough to make an impact at that level fullstop (IMO).


Those were the main ones iirc.

But I would very much argue that the transfer window was our downfall. Yes it was contributory because we didn't fill holes or replace players we needed to. But equally a large number of our players who were good enough, either lost all form or got injured for long periods.

Add that to the natural lesser performances in a second season - other teams more use to you, your team more at home and less determined/playing in less big games.

[madmickb]

According to Sky Reading are prepared to listen to offers for any of there players if this is true What is the point of the supporters paying good money watching a football team that no ambition to get promotion because that it what is going to happen if they sell Hunt and Doyle we can forget it you see wolves or brummy offering all there players to anyone

[Alan Partridge]

I would hazard a guess at Sky turning something what either Coppell or someone from RFC has said and twisting it a little to fit in with one of their cliché ridden articles.

Policy at RFC in the last year or two has been consistant, if there is a good or acceptable offer for a player, then it's put to the player simple as that. I am sure they aren't inviting other clubs to bid for their players, quite the opposite. Coppell won't want to lose anyone from this squad, apart from the very fringe players.

[chilipepper91]

Listening to offers does not mean accepting them... All they're saying is that they won't keep a player against their will.

Oh, and Doyle's said he's staying.

[Bucks Dave]

Now you see why Coppell gets infuriated by the transfer window shenanigans. People actually believe what the media report.

And the Sun has reported that a wind turbine in Lincolnshire was hit by an alien.

[Tilehurst End]

Wally has said in an interview that basically everyone has a price, which we all know anyway, and they've made a story from that.

[Barry the bird boggler]

Any club will listen to any offers for any player if the offer is good enough so this is a complete and utter non story like most media drivel when transfer windows are upon us.