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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Ian Royal » 11 Feb 2009 12:05

brendywendy didnt think he was crap at all

delivered a few crosses, passes, headers, flick ons and shots
probably our best attacking outlet yet again
IMO of course



Once again, I'll say he LOOKS attacking and dangerous, but doesn't deliver well enough from even a 5th of the opportunities he has or creates to do so.

This is just a general comment based on pretty much every performance I've seen him make.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by brendywendy » 11 Feb 2009 12:15

BAH! :wink:


i just think, when a player is one of our best on a bad day, it seems wrong to lambast him over some of the other, worserer players

personally i think he delivered a fair ammount of positive last week. a reading striker being quicker, or in different position in teh box would have seen his set up a goal from his low crosses, but for a great save hed have scored, and also but for a handball on the line he would have scored too.
thats pretty much better than anyone elses positive contribution to the game.


add that to his stirling defensive work throughout the game, and i find it very hard to see why he is being singled out

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Snowball » 11 Feb 2009 14:29

brendywendy BAH! :wink:
i just think, when a player is one of our best on a bad day, it seems wrong to lambast him over some of the other, worserer players
personally i think he delivered a fair ammount of positive last week. a reading striker being quicker, or in different position in teh box would have seen his set up a goal from his low crosses, but for a great save hed have scored, and also but for a handball on the line he would have scored too. thats pretty much better than anyone elses positive contribution to the game.

add that to his stirling defensive work throughout the game, and i find it very hard to see why he is being singled out




You are absolutely right, brendywendy, and unlike Lita, Kebe (winger) did actually beat the keeper

but you must understand that this list doesn't like facts and nobody ever changes their opinion

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by brendywendy » 11 Feb 2009 14:33

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brendywendy didnt think he was crap at all

delivered a few crosses, passes, headers, flick ons and shots
probably our best attacking outlet yet again
IMO of course



Once again, I'll say he LOOKS attacking and dangerous, but doesn't deliver well enough from even a 5th of the opportunities he has or creates to do so.

This is just a general comment based on pretty much every performance I've seen him make.


think thats harsh-but you are obviously entitled to your opinion
IMO, getting a few crosses into the box, and a couple of shots on target, fulfils his purpose in my eyes.
if a player delivers crosses into the box from the wing into dangerous areas, id say hes done his job, regardless of whether a striker can get on the end of them

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by Snowball » 11 Feb 2009 14:39

Two of his cut-backs were superb and deserved goals

The only other passes of note I can remember were two by Doyle for Lita and one I think from Rosy


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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Ian Royal » 11 Feb 2009 17:08

I'd normally agree Brendy, the problem is it's consistent with Kebe, that no matter the game, he generates a minimum of 3 opportunities to create. Often he'll generate 7 or more, maybe into the teens. But he's scored 1 goal despite having at least 10 great chances this season.

He may have a lot of assists, but he SHOULD have a lot more from his skill level and the positions he gets into. It's not like you often see a striker really fluff a chance he's created for them.

I like him. But he frustrates me and I think we'd benefit from switching Henry in more often, either to start or for the last 20 minutes.

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by Snowball » 11 Feb 2009 17:20

Amazingly, Henry has been sent out on loan to Millwall so won't be back for a month

That surprises me

I can only guess that an injury to Kebe would be covered by Rosy at RW and Murts dragged back from Charlton

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by Huntley & Palmer » 11 Feb 2009 17:22

Snowball Amazingly, Henry has been sent out on loan to Millwall so won't be back for a month

That surprises me

I can only guess that an injury to Kebe would be covered by Rosy at RW and Murts dragged back from Charlton

I think you forget Tabb to be honest. Coppell won't play specialists out of position unless he really has to.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Snowball » 11 Feb 2009 17:24

I agree that Kebe can frustrate but only because of what he is capable of when it happens.

Some of his first touches are sublime


Anyone who say Kebe's AMAZING run away at Cardiff to set up Doyle.. it was fantastic

We MUST hang on to Kebbs and get him so he has more end-product.


remember the early Man Utd Ronaldo? All flash and no end-product?

NOW look.


No, I don't think Kebe is in Ronaldo's league but I think he is occasionally nothing short of amazing,
often fabulously exciting.


When Kebe gets the ball, you can FEEL the excitement. What other player creates that buzz? None


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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Gus the teenage cow » 11 Feb 2009 17:25

Snowball I agree that Kebe can frustrate but only because of what he is capable of when it happens.

Some of his first touches are sublime


Anyone who say Kebe's AMAZING run away at Cardiff to set up Doyle.. it was fantastic

We MUST hang on to Kebbs and get him so he has more end-product.


remember the early Man Utd Ronaldo? All flash and no end-product?

NOW look.


No, I don't think Kebe is in Ronaldo's league but I think he is occasionally nothing short of amazing,
often fabulously exciting.


When Kebe gets the ball, you can FEEL the excitement. What other player creates that buzz? None


are you the opta stats man for Reading fc and thus as you know the players/management you feel you must defend them, hardly impartial are you mate?

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Snowball » 11 Feb 2009 17:25

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Snowball Amazingly, Henry has been sent out on loan to Millwall so won't be back for a month

That surprises me

I can only guess that an injury to Kebe would be covered by Rosy at RW and Murts dragged back from Charlton

I think you forget Tabb to be honest. Coppell won't play specialists out of position unless he really has to.



Does Tabb play RW? Rosy has played RW and plays out there a lot as FB

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Snowball » 11 Feb 2009 17:26

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Snowball I agree that Kebe can frustrate but only because of what he is capable of when it happens.

Some of his first touches are sublime


Anyone who say Kebe's AMAZING run away at Cardiff to set up Doyle.. it was fantastic

We MUST hang on to Kebbs and get him so he has more end-product.


remember the early Man Utd Ronaldo? All flash and no end-product?

NOW look.


No, I don't think Kebe is in Ronaldo's league but I think he is occasionally nothing short of amazing,
often fabulously exciting.


When Kebe gets the ball, you can FEEL the excitement. What other player creates that buzz? None


are you the opta stats man for Reading fc and thus as you know the players/management you feel you must defend them, hardly impartial are you mate?



are u married to comonurz?

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Ian Royal » 11 Feb 2009 17:27

But he doesn't have it yet, and he's unlikely to magically get it in the Prem if he didn't have it at chump level.

I didn't say get rid of him. Just we shouldn't rely so heavily on him in all games.


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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Snowball » 11 Feb 2009 17:32

I'd play him as much as possible, and work on the "thinking" in training

I think he will be a match-winner in the Prem. We need mercurial players, and those with extra surprise value or class like Matty

What worries me is we are very good at our best but very predictable

Prem sides will snuff us out unless we have wild-cards and a Plan B

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Snowball » 11 Feb 2009 17:33

But then I would say that being an insider and singing from the club hymn sheet

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Hoop Blah » 11 Feb 2009 17:38

Snowball I agree that Kebe can frustrate but only because of what he is capable of when it happens.

Some of his first touches are sublime


Anyone who say Kebe's AMAZING run away at Cardiff to set up Doyle.. it was fantastic

We MUST hang on to Kebbs and get him so he has more end-product.


remember the early Man Utd Ronaldo? All flash and no end-product?

NOW look.


No, I don't think Kebe is in Ronaldo's league but I think he is occasionally nothing short of amazing,
often fabulously exciting.


When Kebe gets the ball, you can FEEL the excitement. What other player creates that buzz? None


See that is a much better post, it contains opinion and a view based on what you see not just a jumbled up bunch of meaningless stats.

I don't necessarily agree with your assesment as I think he's poor play far outweighs his good and his not at an age where he is going to improve a great deal, although I wouldn't rule that out completely.

Tabb does play on the right too. A lot more than Rosenoir has, and with better effect from what I can remember too.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Gus the teenage cow » 11 Feb 2009 17:40

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Snowball I agree that Kebe can frustrate but only because of what he is capable of when it happens.

Some of his first touches are sublime


Anyone who say Kebe's AMAZING run away at Cardiff to set up Doyle.. it was fantastic

We MUST hang on to Kebbs and get him so he has more end-product.


remember the early Man Utd Ronaldo? All flash and no end-product?

NOW look.


No, I don't think Kebe is in Ronaldo's league but I think he is occasionally nothing short of amazing,
often fabulously exciting.


When Kebe gets the ball, you can FEEL the excitement. What other player creates that buzz? None


are you the opta stats man for Reading fc and thus as you know the players/management you feel you must defend them, hardly impartial are you mate?



are u married to comonurz?


i'll take your non-denial as confirmation, if you are preaching to us all about the merits of respective players at least you should have the courage to declare if you have a vested interest

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Huntley & Palmer » 12 Feb 2009 10:39

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Snowball Amazingly, Henry has been sent out on loan to Millwall so won't be back for a month

That surprises me

I can only guess that an injury to Kebe would be covered by Rosy at RW and Murts dragged back from Charlton

I think you forget Tabb to be honest. Coppell won't play specialists out of position unless he really has to.



Does Tabb play RW? Rosy has played RW and plays out there a lot as FB

Anywhere across the midfield was the description of him on the official site I believe. I don't think Rosy has played RW for us before, yes he gets forward and overlaps Kebe or Henry but I would prefer a specialist to play there. Would seem rather pointless to bring back Murty and play him at right back just so Rosenior could play RW when we have Tabb. What sort of message would that send out to him or Henry?

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Hoop Blah » 12 Feb 2009 10:44

Huntley & Palmer Anywhere across the midfield was the description of him on the official site I believe. I don't think Rosy has played RW for us before, yes he gets forward and overlaps Kebe or Henry but I would prefer a specialist to play there. Would seem rather pointless to bring back Murty and play him at right back just so Rosenior could play RW when we have Tabb. What sort of message would that send out to him or Henry?


Rosenoir played right midfield for us when he first signed as after letting Soel leave we didn't have a lot of other options. It was an experiment that didn't pay off and after a couple of games he we tried yet another option out there.

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Re: Jimmy Kebe is a good player, sign in

by Ian Royal » 12 Feb 2009 12:21

Snowball But then I would say that being an insider and singing from the club hymn sheet



Oh Jesus Christ, please tell me you're making this up and the club don't actually employ you in any serious capacity!?

They need to seriously look at their recruitment procedures if you've got a position which has any influence at all.

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